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![]() clvrmnky wrote: A good receiver actually gives you TONS of information. You can hear overmodulation, sideband "splatter" to adjacent channels, spurious oscillations on other channels, dead carrier hum in your signal, the overall intelligibility of your signal and the audio frequency response (roughly). No field strength meter can tell you this information! Bottom line is, human hearing is the ultimate destination. It can be more qualitative that quantity. However, it is exactly these aspects that make human hearing terrible for side-by-side comparisons like the one initially described by the OP. There are plenty examples of double-blind tests that indicate that the participating observer often makes the worst sort of qualitative judgements. But any radio broadcaster worth his or her salt will be able to tell APPROXIMATELY how many watts a signal is producing (or ERP), especially since we don't have ionospheric skip in the broadcast band, all line of sight. Human judgement is a useful tool, especially when trying to understand the hard-to-quantify. However, I find it dubious that anyone has ears good enough to hear the quality of an audio signal that is the result of +- 1dB of RF gain presented to the front-end. -1 dB at 100 watts is about 79 watts, so yeah, most people with a good receiver aren't going to hear the difference. But some people very familiar with the signal might notice the difference. -2 dB at 100 watts is about 63 watts, which most people should notice, especially on the fringe of the service area. -3 dB is 100 versus 50 watts, and no **** there's an audible difference! (This is not to say I think that the OP only used this method to get his/her results. Clearly, the OP used some sort of methodology to obtain the +1dB gain claim. I only suggest that we should be critical of qualitative results that back up the results we want.) +1 dB was what our theoretical difference was, but it may have been more. Sorry, but we don't have a huge VHF anechoic chamber, and the proper signal strength meter to do this properly! A better qualitative test would be to simply live with the antenna for a few weeks, and see what DX one could pull in. Again, totally unscientific; but this is what average radiopersons (like me, I'm afraid!) have been doing for decades now. Like i said, I would love to have a big VHF anechoic chamber, and place each antenna on a rotor, and measure every 2 degrees or so, with the proper uV/meter equipment, but we don't have the $$ for that. Most people don't, i don't know anyone who does. It may be unscientific, but in a certain way NOT, because you can get field reports from many people, who all have different receivers, and different antennas on their cars, etc... so the results are more of an averaged response. Bottom line is, is the signal more intelligible and listenable? Slick |
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