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I agree that you should at the very least take K9STH's advice regarding
lightning with a grain of salt. There is some good advice about grounding, but there is also some bad advice, and most of his theories about lightning have been replaced in the last 20 years among the scientific community. Also, the way I see it, we ground our gear for low noise and good radiated signals. NEC grounds things for safety and lightning protection. What constitutes a "good" ground system may differ according to which viewpoint you adopt. |
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On 23 Apr 2005 07:53:03 -0700, "
wrote: I agree that you should at the very least take K9STH's advice regarding lightning with a grain of salt. There is some good advice about grounding, but there is also some bad advice, and most of his theories about lightning have been replaced in the last 20 years among the scientific community. Is there a good layman's book on grounding amateur gear? Ask 10 hams a grounding question and you get 11 answers :-) bob k5qwg Also, the way I see it, we ground our gear for low noise and good radiated signals. NEC grounds things for safety and lightning protection. What constitutes a "good" ground system may differ according to which viewpoint you adopt. |
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![]() "Bob Miller" wrote Is there a good layman's book on grounding amateur gear? Ask 10 hams a grounding question and you get 11 answers :-) bob k5qwg Bob, it gets even worse when total lightning protection systems are involved. This book below (Grounding v. Bonding) is an excellent fundamental approach to the interrelationship between the two. Add to it the $35 NFPA-780 (Oct 2004 is current edition) Standard for Installation of Lightning Protection Systems, and you will be a long way toward understanding how to best protect equipment in your individual circumstances. http://www.mikeholt.com/bookcategory...&from=Products Best regards, Jack |
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:31:18 GMT, Bob Miller
wrote: On 23 Apr 2005 07:53:03 -0700, " wrote: I agree that you should at the very least take K9STH's advice regarding lightning with a grain of salt. There is some good advice about grounding, but there is also some bad advice, and most of his theories about lightning have been replaced in the last 20 years among the scientific community. Is there a good layman's book on grounding amateur gear? Ask 10 hams a grounding question and you get 11 answers :-) bob k5qwg Also, the way I see it, we ground our gear for low noise and good radiated signals. NEC grounds things for safety and lightning protection. What constitutes a "good" ground system may differ according to which viewpoint you adopt. Yes, got to the library and copy sections 250 and 800 of the National Electric Code (NEC). It is quite clear and if you have passed element two you should be able to understand the language. I'll repeat myself because it bears repeating. All grounds are to be bonded together with at least #6 wire and mechanical connections (no soldering). Russ |
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Bob Miller wrote:
"Is there a good layman`s book on grounding amateur gear?" The ARRL Handbook for starters, My newest is the 1987 edition. It has several pages of good suggestions on "The National Electrical Code", protective devices, and lightning protection. They suggest books and pamphlets to request for planning your installation. There is no big disparity between lightning protection and electrical noise abatement. The techniques are almost the same. I`ve checked lightning prepared status by checking noise rejection capability. Lightning is an enormous noise. Want complete protection? Seal your protected treasure inside a seamless box constructed of highly-conductive sturdy material. No wires enter and no wires leave. No noise, no lightning, and no damage to the contents either. Now, bring wires through the box but use a series impedance in each (a choke), and use a shunt admittance (a capacitor) between each wire and the box. Better yet, confine the area where wires enter and leave the box to a small space or window so that all the ground connections can be made in the same spot. Again, no noise, no lightning, and no damage to contents inside the box. It works. I`ve done it. Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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I should have advised you to clamp the voltage on each wire entering
your lightning protected enclosure to a safe maximum voltage for that wire. The ARRL Handbook mentions several appropriate devices, fast acting and proper breakdown voltage range to protect your equipment. These protectors are used in addition to the filtering which is used for low-level noise elimination. Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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Richard Harrison wrote:
"Is there a good layman`s book on grounding amateur gear?" The ARRL Handbook for starters, My newest is the 1987 edition. It has several pages of good suggestions on "The National Electrical Code", protective devices, and lightning protection. They suggest books and pamphlets to request for planning your installation. There is also plenty of information on the ARRL website. The ARRL Technical Information Service contains good information on a huge range of technical questions: http://www.arrl.org/tis/ For an overview on grounding, and how the separate requirements for mains safety, lightning and RF grounding join together, start with: http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/grounding.html Searching the whole ARRL site for "grounding" brings up other references as well. By the way, almost all homes in the UK are categorically exempt from specific lightning protection requirements in the Wiring Regulations... but that also means we are not very lightning-conscious, and UK radio amateurs tend to be very careless about bonding of mains earths and RF earths. This is a case where we'd do much better to follow US earthing principles, if we possibly can. -- 73 from Ian G3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB) http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek |
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![]() "Ian White G3SEK" wrote in message ... Richard Harrison wrote: "Is there a good layman`s book on grounding amateur gear?" The ARRL Handbook for starters, My newest is the 1987 edition. It has several pages of good suggestions on "The National Electrical Code", protective devices, and lightning protection. They suggest books and pamphlets to request for planning your installation. There is also plenty of information on the ARRL website. The ARRL Technical Information Service contains good information on a huge range of technical questions: http://www.arrl.org/tis/ For an overview on grounding, and how the separate requirements for mains safety, lightning and RF grounding join together, start with: http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/grounding.html Searching the whole ARRL site for "grounding" brings up other references as well. By the way, almost all homes in the UK are categorically exempt from specific lightning protection requirements in the Wiring Regulations... but that also means we are not very lightning-conscious, I like that "we" bit. "We" of the U.K are quite aware that if the U.K.was "careless" Condoleeza Rice or Bush would not hesitate to quickly let us know. And would threaten the U.K. with sanctions if it did not come to heel and change it's practices with lightning speed.. Art and UK radio amateurs tend to be very careless about bonding of mains earths and RF earths. This is a case where we'd do much better to follow US earthing principles, if we possibly can. -- 73 from Ian G3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB) http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek |
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Art Unwin wrote:
"We" of the U.K. are quite aware that if the U.K. was "careless" Condoleza Rice or Bush would not hesitate to quickly let us know." I think not. No "shock and awe" for our U.K. peerless allies. The U.S. just got a head start on lightning from our Bold Ben Franklin. Luckily he survived. Then, after a Louisiana Purcjase and wars with Mexico and Spain, it won tropical territories which are rife with lightning. I know the sun never sets on the British Empire. It`s just not the same when lightning tradhes some Zulu`s hut as when it strikes your own digs. Lots of Americans live in Tampa-St. Petersburg. This one spot holds the world record for lightning. I think the U.S.A. had more motivation to mitigate the lightning problem. Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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Bob Miller wrote: Is there a good layman's book on grounding amateur gear? Ask 10 hams a grounding question and you get 11 answers :-) Well, I won't claim that it's layman-level or that it's small, but I do keep a copy of the U.S. Government's military handbook on grounding on my server's website: http://www.radagast.org/~dplatt/hamr...-grounding.pdf Lots of good information there about ground rods, bonding, making solid connections between elements of the ground system, etc. -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
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