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Old April 30th 05, 02:50 AM
John Smith
 
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Well, I disagree...
We often ship a project out of house for coding, we don't care what language
the coder creates in...
the "#define" statement is VERY powerful in "C"... with it, we have created
headers in BASIC, Pascal, Fortran, etc... and defined the WHOLE LANGUAGE to
call C functions in place of those of the native language (there are also
translaters which translate any souce to C source, and these are generally
used in place of the headers, as documentation in C is produced at the same
time)...
Although the programmer is creating in another language, it compiles on a "C
compiler."
Now and then, to keep fluent in Pascal, I use one of these headers, I write
in Pascal--and a C compiler builds the object code...

New Jr. programmers used to come in fluent in other languages other than
"C"--this was all designed to allow them to be productive from day
one--while they came up to speed in C.

Now, C programmers are common, and I don't remember when this was last
used...

Now, most of our code is being done off shore... the world is VERY C savvy!

Regards,
John


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Old April 30th 05, 03:56 AM
Tom Ring
 
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Roy Lewallen wrote:

John Smith wrote:

. . .
But, Roy, Fortran is a dead language--


. . .


You're very wrong about that. Fortran is in wide daily use, with a great
deal of active programming going on. The main users are academic,
scientific community, and the military. Compilers are modern and
continue to be updated. The language itself undergoes periodic revisions
and updates via a standards committee. It's an evolving, modern, active
language. Drop by comp.lang.fortran or do a little basic web research
and see for yourself.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL


The basic design was well founded, and based upon need and usefullness,
unlike some following languages such as Ada and Pascal.

I wrote my first programs in Fortran II, which ran on a very small 360.

tom
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Old May 1st 05, 01:56 AM
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John Smith wrote:


But, Roy, Fortran is a dead language--even my beloved Pascal, which I hate
to admit, is a dead language... with the power, speed and freedom of "C++"
all other languages are obsolete (even assembly has fallen--just drop to
inline assembly and write in assembly code) unless they run on minimal
platforms (thin clients)...

I would like to say, "This is just my opinion." However, I will stand
beside this as being fact... frown


Reports of Fortrans demise are greatly exxagerated. Dead since the late
70's, but still in use.

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Old May 1st 05, 02:56 AM
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Well, so is COBOL, still in use!!!
However, mostly, it comes to play only to fix/patch old existing code.
Usually, when the co/corp in question is either unable or unwilling to
expend resources on translating/developing and are able to get by with a
kludge...

Regards,
John

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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| John Smith wrote:
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| But, Roy, Fortran is a dead language--even my beloved Pascal, which I
hate
| to admit, is a dead language... with the power, speed and freedom of
"C++"
| all other languages are obsolete (even assembly has fallen--just drop to
| inline assembly and write in assembly code) unless they run on minimal
| platforms (thin clients)...
|
| I would like to say, "This is just my opinion." However, I will stand
| beside this as being fact... frown
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| Reports of Fortrans demise are greatly exxagerated. Dead since the late
| 70's, but still in use.
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| - Mike KB3EIA -


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Old May 1st 05, 03:14 AM
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Actually... that isn't totally truthful...
Mathematicians (they controlled the development of Fortran!) are still using
the Apple platform and using Fortran, they are a hardnosed bunch
(dinosaurs?)... but I think this is mostly academic institutions and gov't
(probably even NASA)... they are always behind everyone else...

Regards,
John

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| Well, so is COBOL, still in use!!!
| However, mostly, it comes to play only to fix/patch old existing code.
| Usually, when the co/corp in question is either unable or unwilling to
| expend resources on translating/developing and are able to get by with a
| kludge...
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| Regards,
| John
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|| John Smith wrote:
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|| But, Roy, Fortran is a dead language--even my beloved Pascal, which I
| hate
|| to admit, is a dead language... with the power, speed and freedom of
| "C++"
|| all other languages are obsolete (even assembly has fallen--just drop
to
|| inline assembly and write in assembly code) unless they run on minimal
|| platforms (thin clients)...
||
|| I would like to say, "This is just my opinion." However, I will stand
|| beside this as being fact... frown
||
|| Reports of Fortrans demise are greatly exxagerated. Dead since the late
|| 70's, but still in use.
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|| - Mike KB3EIA -
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