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Old May 1st 05, 02:35 AM
Mike Coslo
 
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Cecil Moore wrote:

John Smith wrote:

Yes, we have a precise measurement of that exact moment!!! (when the
Earth began its' first revolution!!!)



Precisely 4.5 billion years ago. :-) Strange as it may seem,
there is evidence, gathered by comparing Bristlecone Pine
rings to atomic dating methods, that a second today is
shorter than a second was yesterday. Shortening the length
of a second gives a whole new meaning to the Red Shift.


I had the great fortune of attending a talk given by a paleontologist,
in which he noted that microgrowth rings of fossil shells do indeed show
that the day length has indeed shortened. Although he was careful not to
draw any definitive conclusions - yet - it was apparent that due to the
changes in the Earth's orbit over time were giving rise to changes in
the length of the solar day, which in turn end up changing the length of
all the units that we use to measure time.

That time occurs is not all that arguable to me. Our measurements of it
is a modifiable thing tho'.

- Mike KB3EIA -



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Old May 1st 05, 02:52 AM
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What is "time?" If I trapped it in a bottle--what would I be looking at?

Regards,
John

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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| Cecil Moore wrote:
|
| John Smith wrote:
|
| Yes, we have a precise measurement of that exact moment!!! (when the
| Earth began its' first revolution!!!)
|
|
| Precisely 4.5 billion years ago. :-) Strange as it may seem,
| there is evidence, gathered by comparing Bristlecone Pine
| rings to atomic dating methods, that a second today is
| shorter than a second was yesterday. Shortening the length
| of a second gives a whole new meaning to the Red Shift.
|
| I had the great fortune of attending a talk given by a paleontologist,
| in which he noted that microgrowth rings of fossil shells do indeed show
| that the day length has indeed shortened. Although he was careful not to
| draw any definitive conclusions - yet - it was apparent that due to the
| changes in the Earth's orbit over time were giving rise to changes in
| the length of the solar day, which in turn end up changing the length of
| all the units that we use to measure time.
|
| That time occurs is not all that arguable to me. Our measurements of it
| is a modifiable thing tho'.
|
| - Mike KB3EIA -
|
|
|
| - Mike KB3EIA


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Old May 1st 05, 03:47 PM
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No, you would be listening to Jim Croche...

How long is a piece of string.

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Old May 1st 05, 05:12 PM
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Fred:

Quit trying to open up string theory, no one wants to go there!!! I have a
hard enough time with antennas!!! grin

Warmest regards,
John

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Old May 1st 05, 04:22 PM
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John Smith wrote:

What is "time?" If I trapped it in a bottle--what would I be looking at?


Probably similar to a photon trapped in a bottle! 8^)

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"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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| Cecil Moore wrote:
|
| John Smith wrote:
|
| Yes, we have a precise measurement of that exact moment!!! (when the
| Earth began its' first revolution!!!)
|
|
| Precisely 4.5 billion years ago. :-) Strange as it may seem,
| there is evidence, gathered by comparing Bristlecone Pine
| rings to atomic dating methods, that a second today is
| shorter than a second was yesterday. Shortening the length
| of a second gives a whole new meaning to the Red Shift.
|
| I had the great fortune of attending a talk given by a paleontologist,
| in which he noted that microgrowth rings of fossil shells do indeed show
| that the day length has indeed shortened. Although he was careful not to
| draw any definitive conclusions - yet - it was apparent that due to the
| changes in the Earth's orbit over time were giving rise to changes in
| the length of the solar day, which in turn end up changing the length of
| all the units that we use to measure time.
|
| That time occurs is not all that arguable to me. Our measurements of it
| is a modifiable thing tho'.
|
| - Mike KB3EIA -
|
|
|
| - Mike KB3EIA




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Old May 1st 05, 05:11 PM
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LOL!!! Naturally, my eyes are NOT as good as they used to be--probably
couldn't even enjoy viewing it with my glasses on...

Warmest regards,
John

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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| John Smith wrote:
|
| What is "time?" If I trapped it in a bottle--what would I be looking
at?
|
|
| Probably similar to a photon trapped in a bottle! 8^)
|
| - Mike KB3EIA -
|
|
|
|
| "Mike Coslo" wrote in message
| ...
| | Cecil Moore wrote:
| |
| | John Smith wrote:
| |
| | Yes, we have a precise measurement of that exact moment!!! (when
the
| | Earth began its' first revolution!!!)
| |
| |
| | Precisely 4.5 billion years ago. :-) Strange as it may seem,
| | there is evidence, gathered by comparing Bristlecone Pine
| | rings to atomic dating methods, that a second today is
| | shorter than a second was yesterday. Shortening the length
| | of a second gives a whole new meaning to the Red Shift.
| |
| | I had the great fortune of attending a talk given by a paleontologist,
| | in which he noted that microgrowth rings of fossil shells do indeed
show
| | that the day length has indeed shortened. Although he was careful not
to
| | draw any definitive conclusions - yet - it was apparent that due to
the
| | changes in the Earth's orbit over time were giving rise to changes in
| | the length of the solar day, which in turn end up changing the length
of
| | all the units that we use to measure time.
| |
| | That time occurs is not all that arguable to me. Our measurements of
it
| | is a modifiable thing tho'.
| |
| | - Mike KB3EIA -
| |
| |
| |
| | - Mike KB3EIA
|
|


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Old May 2nd 05, 06:51 PM
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John Smith wrote:

What is "time?" If I trapped it in a bottle--what would I be looking at?


An old Jim Croce record?

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Old May 1st 05, 04:27 AM
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Mike Coslo wrote:
That time occurs is not all that arguable to me. Our measurements of
it is a modifiable thing tho'.


Try assuming that time doesn't exist and you are keeping track
of change referenced to the rotation of the earth on its axis
plus earth's orbit around the sun. What is different?
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Cecil Moore wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote:

That time occurs is not all that arguable to me. Our measurements of
it is a modifiable thing tho'.



Try assuming that time doesn't exist and you are keeping track
of change referenced to the rotation of the earth on its axis
plus earth's orbit around the sun. What is different?


The units.

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Old May 3rd 05, 04:31 AM
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Jim Kelley wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:
Try assuming that time doesn't exist and you are keeping track
of change referenced to the rotation of the earth on its axis
plus earth's orbit around the sun. What is different?


The units.


Not even that. It would still be a day and a year.
Nothing would change if time doesn't exist.
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