Let me give you my "Mental Model."

There is no such thing as "cold."
There is no such thing as "heat." (there is infrared radiation--i.e. a
frequency(s) of vibration of atoms)
Cold is the absence of heat, absolute cold (absolute zero) is a single
measurement of one state of heat (vibration/movement of atomic
particles)--NONE!
Heat (hot) is really a measurement of the state of exicted atomic/sub-atomic
particles movement, and of that movement producing "heat" through the
friction produced by the movement of these atomic particles...

Next, there is no such thing as "time!" Time is simply a measurement of
movement! Indeed, our time is based on the rotation of the sun and
planets... (atomic time on the decay of a radioactive substance--but again,
physical change and movement!)

I realize that specific "mental models" have been created, taught, adopted
and followed (too religiously if you ask me!) for discussing and describing
"radio." However, most of these are far from "real things!"

Warmest regards,
John

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:15:16 -0700, John Smith posted with

Subject: Are all these arguments revolving around a common point?

Yep. The common point is Off-Topic trolling.

You, my friend, should pay much more attention to the posts--this is highly
relevant, or at least, at this point, a thinking man would pose such a
question... petty quibbling over "mental models" is a REAL road block to
some--or, so it seems...
Hey, this is another instance of it!!!! grin

Regards,
John

John Smith wrote:
Next, there is no such thing as "time!"

I once read a book called, "The End of Time" or
something like that. It asserted that time is
a concept invented by the mind of man and doesn't
really exist in reality.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

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"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:
Next, there is no such thing as "time!"

I once read a book called, "The End of Time" or
something like that. It asserted that time is
a concept invented by the mind of man and doesn't
really exist in reality.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

I read somewhere that "time" is Natures way of insuring that everything
doesn't happen all at once.(G)

Harold
KD5SAK

Harold Burton wrote:

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...

John Smith wrote:

Next, there is no such thing as "time!"

I once read a book called, "The End of Time" or
something like that. It asserted that time is
a concept invented by the mind of man and doesn't
really exist in reality.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


I read somewhere that "time" is Natures way of insuring that everything
doesn't happen all at once.(G)

Nature doesn't have my job! 8^)

- Mike KB3EIA -

Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith wrote:

Next, there is no such thing as "time!"


I once read a book called, "The End of Time" or
something like that. It asserted that time is
a concept invented by the mind of man and doesn't
really exist in reality.

Time is very real to us mortals, Cecil.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Mike Coslo wrote:
Time is very real to us mortals, Cecil.

So is God (whether He exists in reality or not).
Question is: Did time exist before man? A year is
simply movement, once around the sun. I've been
here for about 40 billion miles around the sun. Is
that time or simply distance? Am I winding down
because of the years or simply, like my '96 pickup,
because of the miles?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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Cecil:

You surprise me, Einstein thought, eventually, one equation would be found,
probably about one-inch long--which would explain all...
You follow in his footsteps, you are adept at seeing relationships!!!!
grin

Regards,
John

John Smith wrote:
You surprise me, Einstein thought, eventually, one equation would be found,
probably about one-inch long--which would explain all...
You follow in his footsteps, you are adept at seeing relationships!!!!

If one just takes existence at face value, one lives closer
to that which actually exists. Time, like language, may
be just a human characteristic. Ever try to talk about
time without using time-sensitive words, e.g. the tenses
of verbs? :-)
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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