Charlie wrote:
In all honesty to those that ridiculed the tower and it's associated
riggings etc...I have posted photos of the damage incurred from the category
4 hurricane Dennis. I never expected this kind of result...live and learn I
suppose. Here is the direct link..

1. http://deepsouthnet.net/storm_damage.html



Your point would have been better if you had used actual before and
after pictures. If you check the name on each picture you will find that
they are the same exact file. Nice try...

Dave N

The images are the same yeah...DUH!!
Since there was no damage.....except perhaps your brain damage.
You don't catch on too fast do you?

--

Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com
Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net
www.deepsouthnet.net





"David G. Nagel" wrote in message
...
Charlie wrote:
In all honesty to those that ridiculed the tower and it's associated
riggings etc...I have posted photos of the damage incurred from the
category 4 hurricane Dennis. I never expected this kind of result...live
and learn I suppose. Here is the direct link..

1. http://deepsouthnet.net/storm_damage.html



Your point would have been better if you had used actual before and after
pictures. If you check the name on each picture you will find that they
are the same exact file. Nice try...

Dave N

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
The images are the same yeah...DUH!!
Since there was no damage.....except perhaps your brain damage.
You don't catch on too fast do you?

--

Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com
Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net
www.deepsouthnet.net


Well, this will be my last post on this thread. I think Charlie has burnt
his last shred of credibility by using identical images for "before" and
"after" evidence. I'm sure everyone noted that not even a single tree leaf
was lost during that disaster, so I suppose Charlie could also claim that
his tower is as strong as a leaf, maybe even stronger!

Since Charlie doesn't seem to worry too much about factual evidence, his
request for technical comments must have been posted for entertainment
value, and in that, he certainly has succeeded. Can we look forward to
annual updates posting the same original image, thereby proving that Chuckie
has not only built a strong, but an eternal tower?

--
Ed
WB6WSN
El Cajon, CA USA

In article gf6Be.31364$ro.4327@fed1read02,
"Ed Price" wrote:

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
The images are the same yeah...DUH!!
Since there was no damage.....except perhaps your brain damage.
You don't catch on too fast do you?

--

Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com
Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net
www.deepsouthnet.net


Well, this will be my last post on this thread. I think Charlie has burnt
his last shred of credibility by using identical images for "before" and
"after" evidence. I'm sure everyone noted that not even a single tree leaf
was lost during that disaster, so I suppose Charlie could also claim that
his tower is as strong as a leaf, maybe even stronger!

Since Charlie doesn't seem to worry too much about factual evidence, his
request for technical comments must have been posted for entertainment
value, and in that, he certainly has succeeded. Can we look forward to
annual updates posting the same original image, thereby proving that Chuckie
has not only built a strong, but an eternal tower?

Me thinks charlie is a kook.

Me thinks charlie is a kook.

With all this attention, one might think that someone in his county
might hear of this and take a second look at the engineering. It might
be true that being in the boonies, nobody really cared at the time when
Charlie said he was goin' to put up a tower, But now that it is there,
looking like a ride at CB World, they might want to review it. We also
need to keep an eye on the SK list. Something could happen to innocent
folks if it falls the wrong direction, and in my experience there is no
right direction for a tower to fall.

Hang tough & enjoy your tower Charlie!
If it breaks, fix it. Otherwise enjoy it!

Some day I may get brave and post the pictures of my fold over-crank
up mast with the CushCraft A3 beam on it. It waves around in the wind
like a sailboat mast and flexes the I-beam gantry enough to scare the
clueless when it is time to do antenna work.

When mine breaks, I will either fix or replace, just as I have always
done...

My current worries are lightning and ice.

It has only been up about five years, time will tell.

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 03:43:15 -0700, "Ed Price"
wrote:


"Charlie" wrote in message
...
The images are the same yeah...DUH!!
Since there was no damage.....except perhaps your brain damage.
You don't catch on too fast do you?

--

Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com
Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net
www.deepsouthnet.net


Well, this will be my last post on this thread. I think Charlie has burnt
his last shred of credibility by using identical images for "before" and
"after" evidence. I'm sure everyone noted that not even a single tree leaf
was lost during that disaster, so I suppose Charlie could also claim that
his tower is as strong as a leaf, maybe even stronger!

Since Charlie doesn't seem to worry too much about factual evidence, his
request for technical comments must have been posted for entertainment
value, and in that, he certainly has succeeded. Can we look forward to
annual updates posting the same original image, thereby proving that Chuckie
has not only built a strong, but an eternal tower?

"John Ferrell" bravely wrote to "All" (13 Jul 05 14:47:06)
--- on the heady topic of " AD5TH Tower - Storm Damage Photos"

JF From: John Ferrell
JF Xref: aeinews alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf:8238

JF Hang tough & enjoy your tower Charlie!
JF If it breaks, fix it. Otherwise enjoy it!

JF Some day I may get brave and post the pictures of my fold over-crank
JF up mast with the CushCraft A3 beam on it. It waves around in the wind
JF like a sailboat mast and flexes the I-beam gantry enough to scare the
JF clueless when it is time to do antenna work.

JF When mine breaks, I will either fix or replace, just as I have always
JF done...

JF My current worries are lightning and ice.

JF It has only been up about five years, time will tell.


There is a thing called metal fatigue of which I was abruptly reminded
of this spring. I was raking the lawn as I usually do and the aluminum
handle just snapped in half without any provocation. No way I could
have casually seen it but the rake was some decades old and probably
flexed all it would flex. So there you go, time is against us!

A*s*i*m*o*v

.... Give me that old time religion. Hail, Zeus!

Asimov wrote:
"There is a thing called metal fatigue of which I was strongly reminded
this spring."

Yes. It usually begins with a microscopic crack. The greater the stress,
the shorter the life. Damage is cumulative. It is affected by
temperature and surface finish.

Some metals such as steel and titanium have lower stress limits below
which they are mostlly im,mune to failure from repeated flexing. Other
metals such as aluminum and its alloys have no such immunity and
eventually fail under repeated flexing. In these, designs are kept below
the fatigue threshold for the number of stress cycles expected within
their lives. Or, a lifetime is specified and replacement is required.
Another technique is non-destructive testing to find cracks and the
piece is retired for cause.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

"Richard Harrison" bravely wrote to "All" (14 Jul 05 12:04:53)
--- on the heady topic of " AD5TH Tower - Storm Damage Photos"

RH From: (Richard Harrison)
RH Xref: aeinews rec.radio.amateur.antenna:34153

RH Some metals such as steel and titanium have lower stress limits below
RH which they are mostlly im,mune to failure from repeated flexing. Other
RH metals such as aluminum and its alloys have no such immunity and
RH eventually fail under repeated flexing. In these, designs are kept
RH below the fatigue threshold for the number of stress cycles expected
RH within their lives. Or, a lifetime is specified and replacement is
RH required. Another technique is non-destructive testing to find cracks
RH and the piece is retired for cause.


How can one estimate stress cycles from a wind load?

A*s*i*m*o*v

.... All the tea in china: 356,000 metric tons.

I rarely get caught with the antenna fully extended when the wind is
gusting.Thank goodness for electric winches!

Crank up masts are an entirely different kind of antenna mount. I
would not bet on it withstanding 110 mph winds in the up position, but
I am betting it will do more than that retracted!

Wednesday, 13 Jul 2005 23:14:08 -500, "Asimov"
wrote:

"John Ferrell" bravely wrote to "All" (13 Jul 05 14:47:06)
--- on the heady topic of " AD5TH Tower - Storm Damage Photos"

JF From: John Ferrell
JF Xref: aeinews alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf:8238

JF Hang tough & enjoy your tower Charlie!
JF If it breaks, fix it. Otherwise enjoy it!

JF Some day I may get brave and post the pictures of my fold over-crank
JF up mast with the CushCraft A3 beam on it. It waves around in the wind
JF like a sailboat mast and flexes the I-beam gantry enough to scare the
JF clueless when it is time to do antenna work.

JF When mine breaks, I will either fix or replace, just as I have always
JF done...

JF My current worries are lightning and ice.

JF It has only been up about five years, time will tell.


There is a thing called metal fatigue of which I was abruptly reminded
of this spring. I was raking the lawn as I usually do and the aluminum
handle just snapped in half without any provocation. No way I could
have casually seen it but the rake was some decades old and probably
flexed all it would flex. So there you go, time is against us!

A*s*i*m*o*v

... Give me that old time religion. Hail, Zeus!