Ed Price wrote:
Getting closer to the truth, but exactly what, besides redundant, is a
"representative republic"? Perhaps you meant to say "constitutional
republic".

In a pure democracy, the voters vote directly on the laws. In a
representative republic, the voters vote on a representative who
votes directly on the laws. In a constitutional republic, some laws
are off limits both to the voters and to the representatives, i.e.
inalienable rights (at least until the constitution is ammended).
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Ed Price wrote:

"Dave Shrader" wrote:
The HOA police show up! What are Bill's options: He is retired and his
income is lower than when employed so moving is a very difficult option?

His current options? Take down that simple antenna, and all is now in
compliance with the HOA CC&R's. That shouldn't stretch his budget too far.

But Bill has bigger problems. His car broke down and he can't afford to
fix it. His electricity has been turned off. His shoes have holes in them.
He's three months late on his taxes. What should be done?
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Cecil Moore wrote:

Ed Price wrote:
Getting closer to the truth, but exactly what, besides redundant, is a
"representative republic"? Perhaps you meant to say "constitutional
republic".

In a pure democracy, the voters vote directly on the laws. In a
representative republic, the voters vote on a representative who
votes directly on the laws. In a constitutional republic, some laws
are off limits both to the voters and to the representatives, i.e.
inalienable rights (at least until the constitution is ammended).

No, inalienable rights are not subject to constitutional gerrymandering.
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J Aurelio wrote:
No, inalienable rights are not subject to constitutional gerrymandering.

On the contrary, I have an inalienable right to consume wine.
God gave us grapes and yeast and granted us dominion over all the
plants. Jesus turned water into wine. The US government saw fit
to suspend that inalienable right during the 20's & 30's. Thank
God I was born in 1938.
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Take his bank account and become a permanent new DX entity, maybe P5!!

Cecil Moore wrote:
Ed Price wrote:

"Dave Shrader" wrote:

The HOA police show up! What are Bill's options: He is retired and his
income is lower than when employed so moving is a very difficult option?

His current options? Take down that simple antenna, and all is now in
compliance with the HOA CC&R's. That shouldn't stretch his budget too
far.


But Bill has bigger problems. His car broke down and he can't afford to
fix it. His electricity has been turned off. His shoes have holes in them.
He's three months late on his taxes. What should be done?

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:23:14 -0600, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Ed Price wrote:

"Dave Shrader" wrote:
The HOA police show up! What are Bill's options: He is retired and his
income is lower than when employed so moving is a very difficult option?

His current options? Take down that simple antenna, and all is now in
compliance with the HOA CC&R's. That shouldn't stretch his budget too far.

But Bill has bigger problems. His car broke down and he can't afford to
fix it. His electricity has been turned off. His shoes have holes in them.
He's three months late on his taxes. What should be done?

Go on welfare and let his neighbors support him. Then when they
complain he can claim class discrimination. It just might work.

Roger (K8RI)

You'll have to fix the return add due to dumb virus checkers, not spam
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?)
www.rogerhalstead.com

"Keyboard In The Wilderness" wrote in message
news:Tf4zb.652$yf.146@fed1read01...
Well if I am not mistaken --- PRB-1 is NOT applicable to HOA's
Only municipal, county, etc


But you must've not read the entire post. I said that there are moves in
Congress to make those HOAs null and void, and those stuffed shirted old
buzzards will have to
make reasonable accomodations as is the case now under PRB-1. I am all for
it. The control freaks will just have to get a case of the "poochy lip" and
bear it.

For me, I have been here for 17 years--same house, same 70 ft antenna
tower. And a few dipoles to boot. I
doubt that that anyone is going to come along and make me move them. I'd
fight liked a cornered tiger! Then I'd
shoot 'em the bird and move far out into the country on
enough land to have those "Posted" signs on it and de-double dog dare anyone
to come messin' round. LOL!

Jerry


Jerry
K4KWH
"

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Ed Price wrote:

"Dave Shrader" wrote:
The HOA police show up! What are Bill's options: He is retired and his
income is lower than when employed so moving is a very difficult option?

His current options? Take down that simple antenna, and all is now in
compliance with the HOA CC&R's. That shouldn't stretch his budget too
far.

But Bill has bigger problems. His car broke down and he can't afford to
fix it. His electricity has been turned off. His shoes have holes in them.
He's three months late on his taxes. What should be done?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


I am not following your premise. What does this have with Bill being "poor"
and his ability, or restictions from,
putting up antennas? Heck, Cecil, I'm pretty "poor" myself! LOL! All that
does is keep me looking at HRO
catalogues and wishing I could buy more radios. It doesn't prevent me from
erecting antennas as my budget allows.

Jerry




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Jerry Oxendine wrote:

"Cecil Moore" wrote:
But Bill has bigger problems. His car broke down and he can't afford to
fix it. His electricity has been turned off. His shoes have holes in them.
He's three months late on his taxes. What should be done?

I am not following your premise. What does this have with Bill being "poor"
and his ability, or restictions from, putting up antennas?

A ham antenna is just one of the problems that Bill has. Why should a
ham antenna problem get more of a special treatment that any of Bill's
other problems? Premise #1: Some old people need free prescription drugs.
Premise #2: Some old people need free shoes. Premise #3: Some old people
need ham radio antennas. Where does it end?
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On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 09:11:03 -0600, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Jerry Oxendine wrote:

"Cecil Moore" wrote:
But Bill has bigger problems. His car broke down and he can't afford to
fix it. His electricity has been turned off. His shoes have holes in them.
He's three months late on his taxes. What should be done?

I am not following your premise. What does this have with Bill being "poor"
and his ability, or restictions from, putting up antennas?

A ham antenna is just one of the problems that Bill has. Why should a
ham antenna problem get more of a special treatment that any of Bill's
other problems? Premise #1: Some old people need free prescription drugs.
Premise #2: Some old people need free shoes. Premise #3: Some old people
need ham radio antennas. Where does it end?

You mean I wasted all those years, going to college (at age 47) and
then working to build up a retirement account when I could have gotten
some one else to foot the bill?

You'll have to fix the return add due to dumb virus checkers
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?)
www.rogerhalstead.com