Cecil wrote,

Volker Kerkhoff wrote:
1. Acess to all information services is free.

Does God provide it as a miracle? That's the only
way it could be free. I'm willing to bet taxpayers
pay for it and all other "free" governmental services.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


Yes, like fire and police "protection." I got chewed out
by a Foster City, Ca. motorcycle officer yesterday for
slowing down as I passed a grade school when the
school wasn't in session. That chewing out was free
in the sense I didn't have to pay for it at the time and
was theoretically available to everyone, but the cop's
salary is paid by Foster City taxpayers.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

Interesting discussion. As a the former treasurer of a large
complex(250 units), I was the chair of the roofing committee. The
roofs were all failing on 30 buildings and an inspector was hired to
review them. The junk that was attached to the roofs was one of the
major problems. Cables penetrating the surface etc.
In one case, a TV antenna was screwed right into the roof. When it
comes to common property like that, the association cannot allow
individuals to attach their own private stuff wherever they want.
So, homeowners can put up a TV antenna, but the association has to
protect the roofs, at a minimum, from damage.
I don't know how you can accomplish both.
Pat W

Establish a procedure by which a professional installer places all
antennas on the roof. Failure to use the approved installer can result
in the homeowner paying for replacement of everything.

Dave N

PatW wrote:
Interesting discussion. As a the former treasurer of a large
complex(250 units), I was the chair of the roofing committee. The
roofs were all failing on 30 buildings and an inspector was hired to
review them. The junk that was attached to the roofs was one of the
major problems. Cables penetrating the surface etc.
In one case, a TV antenna was screwed right into the roof. When it
comes to common property like that, the association cannot allow
individuals to attach their own private stuff wherever they want.
So, homeowners can put up a TV antenna, but the association has to
protect the roofs, at a minimum, from damage.
I don't know how you can accomplish both.
Pat W

On 19 Jan 2004 11:04:58 -0800, (PatW) wrote:

Interesting discussion. As a the former treasurer of a large
complex(250 units), I was the chair of the roofing committee. The
roofs were all failing on 30 buildings and an inspector was hired to
review them. The junk that was attached to the roofs was one of the
major problems. Cables penetrating the surface etc.
In one case, a TV antenna was screwed right into the roof. When it
comes to common property like that, the association cannot allow
individuals to attach their own private stuff wherever they want.
So, homeowners can put up a TV antenna, but the association has to
protect the roofs, at a minimum, from damage.
I don't know how you can accomplish both.
Pat W

Oh, well... Associated rather undeniable right to install your (ham or
whatever) antenna comes a lengthy section on "protecting and
safeguarding the use of common spaces by other tenants" and "not
damaging structural or other pieces of the house's infrastructure"

Keep in mind that possibly 70% of people in Spain live in appartment
blocks, even in rather small towns, not larger than a couple of 10.000
inhabitants. Real estate have skyrocketed with the governement we've
had for the last 8 years, it's hard to find even a modest, 40-year old
60 sqMtr appartment even in a 50.000 inhabitant town for less than
120.000 $US and you guys will easily get a house (maybe faaaar in the
outskirts, but a house) for that price.