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![]() Before connecting, spray both connectors with WD40 (has negligible effect on signals). Connect. Wipe off WD40 (on outside, of course). Wrap tightly and neatly with self-amalgamating tape. Spray again with WD40. Will last for ever. Ian. Ian, Surely the WD40 should not be applied to the electrically connecting surfaces ? Isn't oil an insulator ? And I wouldn't be happy leaving self amalgamating exposed to the sun - overwrap in plastic insulating tape as well with the outermost layer not wrapped under much tension to stop the tape unwrapping itself when baking in the sun. Nick |
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In message , Nick
Smith writes Before connecting, spray both connectors with WD40 (has negligible effect on signals). Connect. Wipe off WD40 (on outside, of course). Wrap tightly and neatly with self-amalgamating tape. Spray again with WD40. Will last for ever. Ian. Ian, Surely the WD40 should not be applied to the electrically connecting surfaces ? Isn't oil an insulator ? And I wouldn't be happy leaving self amalgamating exposed to the sun - overwrap in plastic insulating tape as well with the outermost layer not wrapped under much tension to stop the tape unwrapping itself when baking in the sun. Nick Nick, I can't say I've noticed any tendency for WD40 to insulate the contacting surfaces of connectors (not that I do this very often). There should normally be sufficient pressure for the contacts to punch through the oily layer. I reckon that WD40 will be similar to 'Lectrolube' and similar switch cleaner-lubricants which leave a lubricating layer. Maybe switch cleaner could be used instead of WD40, but it must be lubricating, and not just cleaning. However, I did once have a problem with the points in the ignition circuit in a car. I put a little too much grease on the cam, and it eventually worked its way along to the actual contacts. It proved a surprisingly effective insulator! As for the effects of sunlight on self-amalgamating tape... Again, I haven't noticed any obvious deterioration, but the '.co.uk' part of my e-mail address may offer some explanation! I wouldn't use PVC tape to overwrap it - PVC always comes adrift eventually. The old-fashioned black fabric-based electricians' tape would probably be OK, provided you secure the end with superglue (another sovereign remedy). Cheers, Ian. -- |
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Hi Ian,
Surely the WD40 should not be applied to the electrically connecting surfaces ? Isn't oil an insulator ? And I wouldn't be happy leaving self amalgamating exposed to the sun - overwrap in plastic insulating tape as well with the outermost layer not wrapped under much tension to stop the tape unwrapping itself when baking in the sun. Nick Nick, I can't say I've noticed any tendency for WD40 to insulate the contacting surfaces of connectors (not that I do this very often). There should normally be sufficient pressure for the contacts to punch through the oily layer. I reckon that WD40 will be similar to 'Lectrolube' and similar switch cleaner-lubricants which leave a lubricating layer. Maybe switch cleaner could be used instead of WD40, but it must be lubricating, and not just cleaning. However, I did once have a problem with the points in the ignition circuit in a car. I put a little too much grease on the cam, and it eventually worked its way along to the actual contacts. It proved a surprisingly effective insulator! As for the effects of sunlight on self-amalgamating tape... Again, I haven't noticed any obvious deterioration, but the '.co.uk' part of my e-mail address may offer some explanation! I wouldn't use PVC tape to overwrap it - PVC always comes adrift eventually. The old-fashioned black fabric-based electricians' tape would probably be OK, provided you secure the end with superglue (another sovereign remedy). Cheers, Ian. I am fairly certain I saw the S.A. tape tip in RadCom a while back, also "PVC cables when hot" being a hazard to bare skin.. and I cant bring myself to lubricate fixed contacts before sealing up. Like car battery terminal posts being smeared with vaseline before fitting the clamps - just cant do it ! Probably being paranoid here ! Thanks for the reply though Nick |
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Best is to use a good quality compression connector such as LRC snap n seal.
If these connectors are installed properly, the only target for water intrusion is the threads. If you put a small dab of silicone grease on the threads of the female portion of the connection before screwing on the connector (make sure it's on the threads, not the center conductor), no other water proofing is needed. We did an experiment at the cable company I worked at when snap n seal connectors were first introduced. We sealed all four connectors on a tap as above and put the tap in the bottom of a trash barrell under three feet of water. After three months under water, there was no sign of water intrusion. |
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 13:15:11 -0000, "Nick Smith"
wrote: Before connecting, spray both connectors with WD40 (has negligible effect on signals). Connect. Wipe off WD40 (on outside, of course). Wrap tightly and neatly with self-amalgamating tape. Spray again with WD40. Will last for ever. Ian. Ian, Surely the WD40 should not be applied to the electrically connecting surfaces ? Isn't oil an insulator ? Sure it is, but that has little to do with the application. WD-40 also works well on moving switch contacts. I'd not recommend it in a band switch though as getting in the pader caps would be a disaster. Remember in a switch the pressure "wipes" the surface. In the case of the connector the pressure of a well tightened connector will press out any oil giving a good contact. Unfortunately it also provides some lubrication making for the possibility of over tightening the connector. I've stripped the threads right out of PL259s and N connectors when I managed to get some silicon grease on the threads. And I wouldn't be happy leaving self amalgamating exposed to the sun - overwrap in plastic insulating tape as well with the outermost layer not wrapped under much tension to stop the tape unwrapping itself when baking in the sun. Too complicated a way to go. I don't get that elaborate on high power UHF and VHF connections. Simple, liquid electrical tape is as good as any as long as the surface is dry so it can stick. It forms a very tough film that lasts a long time even in direct sunlight. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?) www.rogerhalstead.com Nick |
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I have some liquid tape and it is very good for this kind of thing, too.
Also you may want to look for Caltex CopperKote - a copper loaded grease if you can't stand the thought of putting vaseline or similar on the plugs first. I also use it on battery posts. It is used commercially by the power companies when they string up supply lines. The tiny copper flakes cut thru and make contact. Cheers. Murray vk4aok Roger Halstead wrote: On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 13:15:11 -0000, "Nick Smith" wrote: Before connecting, spray both connectors with WD40 (has negligible effect on signals). Connect. Wipe off WD40 (on outside, of course). Wrap tightly and neatly with self-amalgamating tape. Spray again with WD40. Will last for ever. Ian. Ian, Surely the WD40 should not be applied to the electrically connecting surfaces ? Isn't oil an insulator ? Sure it is, but that has little to do with the application. WD-40 also works well on moving switch contacts. I'd not recommend it in a band switch though as getting in the pader caps would be a disaster. Remember in a switch the pressure "wipes" the surface. In the case of the connector the pressure of a well tightened connector will press out any oil giving a good contact. Unfortunately it also provides some lubrication making for the possibility of over tightening the connector. I've stripped the threads right out of PL259s and N connectors when I managed to get some silicon grease on the threads. And I wouldn't be happy leaving self amalgamating exposed to the sun - overwrap in plastic insulating tape as well with the outermost layer not wrapped under much tension to stop the tape unwrapping itself when baking in the sun. Too complicated a way to go. I don't get that elaborate on high power UHF and VHF connections. Simple, liquid electrical tape is as good as any as long as the surface is dry so it can stick. It forms a very tough film that lasts a long time even in direct sunlight. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?) www.rogerhalstead.com Nick -- **************************** Murray Kelly vk4aok 6 Spyglass Place, Oxley, QLD. 4075. Australia ph/fax Intl+ 61 7 3879 7968 **************************** |
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