On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:02:51 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Al Klein wrote:

Must? Where's the "must"? Or do you mean "If you aren't intelligent
enough, or motivated enough, to learn a little, the only way to get a
license is to memorize the answers."

How else one can know that the unit of resistance
is the "ohm", except by memorizing?

There's a difference between knowing that the unit of resistance is
the Ohm, and remembering that the answer to the question about
Kirchoff with the 3 resistors is 10,000 ohms.

Al Klein wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:02:51 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Al Klein wrote:

Must? Where's the "must"? Or do you mean "If you aren't intelligent
enough, or motivated enough, to learn a little, the only way to get a
license is to memorize the answers."

How else one can know that the unit of resistance
is the "ohm", except by memorizing?

There's a difference between knowing that the unit of resistance is
the Ohm, and remembering that the answer to the question about
Kirchoff with the 3 resistors is 10,000 ohms.
someone could memorize that sort of detail I spuose but you nor your
friends have ever advanced any evidence that this occurs Indeed I
don't think it is possible to memorize enough to pass the test and
learn nothing in the bargan I can't prove that of course but it does
seem likely

Al Klein wrote in
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On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:14:17 GMT, Slow Code wrote:

The fit get a ham license. All the rest get cell phones, CB, and
shortwave listening.

No, SC - in today's society we can't hurt people's feelings, so the
loud get anything they want.


I guess that means I got to get louder too. LOL

SC

Slow Code wrote:
Al Klein wrote in
:

On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:14:17 GMT, Slow Code wrote:

The fit get a ham license. All the rest get cell phones, CB, and
shortwave listening.

No, SC - in today's society we can't hurt people's feelings, so the
loud get anything they want.


I guess that means I got to get louder too. LOL
it is way too late for that SC

SC

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 13:51:08 +0000 (UTC), (Geoffrey
S. Mendelson) wrote:

Note that the original intent of the morse code test was that amateur
radio was to provide a pool of ready trained radio operators in case of
war. I'm in a country in the middle of a war, and I can guarentee you that
NONE of the radio communications are morse code.

And none of the current crop of CBers is qualified to provide military
(or any other coherent form of) communications.

Al Klein wrote:

And none of the current crop of CBers is qualified to provide military
(or any other coherent form of) communications.

Why? I assume you really mean that the current crop of new hams needs
education. Have you done anything? How many new hams have you elmered?

Are you active on 2m? Do you speak to new no-code hams and offer to teach
them morse code, let them see your HF station in operation? Have them
assist you during contests?

If all you do is hang out on the HF bands, and complain about how bad
the new hams are, they will stay that way. Whose fault is that?

73,

Geoff.

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On 24 Jul 2006 16:27:04 -0700, "an old friend"
wrote:

someone could memorize that sort of detail I spuose but you nor your
friends have ever advanced any evidence that this occurs Indeed I
don't think it is possible to memorize enough to pass the test and
learn nothing in the bargan I can't prove that of course but it does
seem likely

It's so likely that people have bragged about it.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:01:04 +0000 (UTC), (Geoffrey
S. Mendelson) wrote:

And none of the current crop of CBers is qualified to provide military
(or any other coherent form of) communications.

Why? I assume you really mean that the current crop of new hams needs
education. Have you done anything? How many new hams have you elmered?

A few dozen over the years, maybe over 100. I never kept count. Do I
still do it? No, the people I elmered are elmers now. And some of
the people THEY elmered are elmers. It's time I hung up my "elmer
spikes".

Al Klein wrote:
And none of the current crop of CBers is qualified to provide military
(or any other coherent form of) communications.

CW is not coherent. :-)
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

(Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in
:

Al Klein wrote:

And none of the current crop of CBers is qualified to provide military
(or any other coherent form of) communications.

Why? I assume you really mean that the current crop of new hams needs
education. Have you done anything? How many new hams have you elmered?

Are you active on 2m? Do you speak to new no-code hams and offer to
teach them morse code, let them see your HF station in operation? Have
them assist you during contests?

If all you do is hang out on the HF bands, and complain about how bad
the new hams are, they will stay that way. Whose fault is that?

73,

Geoff.

We don't have to leave or complain if we can improve licensing a little.
That's what's happening here. Striving for quality.

BTW: Stay strong and safe over there. I support you. Don't stop the
mission until the job is done because if you stop early, you'll just have
to deal with the problem again later and it may be even harder and uglier
to do next time. I think most American's support Israel, but you could
never tell that by watching are liberal main stream media.

SC