"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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Say no to institutionalized interference.
Just say NO to HD/IBOC!
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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L. wrote:
I'm done arguing with someone who is "too" lazy to "learn". I'd prefer
to talk to those who have "intelligence" to refer to - to stimulate the
conversation.

My MENSA membership number is 1006281.
What's your MENSA membership number?
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

A MENSA membership means you have a high intelligence quotient. A high
intelligence quotient does not necessarily mean you know anything, only
that if you apply yourself that you have the ability to learn more easily
than an average person. I know some very lazy MENSA members that can't
even spell a large number of the words they use.

In other words, even people above average intelligence can be and often
are too lazy to learn. They do manage to apply what they do know better
than most.


Mensa - who gives a damned? Most of the "brilliant" people I've ever met -
had their thumbs up their ass when it came to doing the basic things in
life - they can't do them. What the hell good is a "brilliant" person if
they're too stupid to know how or lazy to do "basic" things? If having a
Mensa number means you're bankrupt in common sense or "lazy", I'd rather not
be a member - thank you. Often, it is "common sense" which gets you
through - NOT "brilliance". From all I've ever heard and /or seen -
"brilliance" and "common sense" don't go hand in hand. Sitting in a chair
with a bunch of books behind you to make you "appear" smart and not getting
off your lazy ass to use it or to further your education - is not a
"productive" person. I know a few welfare bums who fall into that
description- "appear" smart, "act" smart - lazy as hell. Being in the center
of a University Library with books on most any subject - is NOT going to
make you any more intelligent if you don't venture to "learn". Even at that,
if you don't use it, you lose it.

This is funny as all hell....... some shmuck "claiming" to be a "genious"
coming in here and trying to make the rest of us seem inferior to him. No
one is any better than the rest of us. Their crap doesn't stink any less
than ours. Just when he starts losing his grip on the argument, he pulls
this so called mensa number out - just like a race card. So, what, we're
supposed to take pity? Bow down? I don't think so! The answer to that is
"PLONK".
There was another party a few years ago tried that - and after about a
month - him and his self proclaimed "geniousness" - disappeared. The idea
here is to come in - share ideas, thoughts, "help" if possible - NOT try to
place yourself on a throne above all. I can assure you the majority of us
don't tolerate that attitude. You can agree or agree to disagree on any use
of words, theories, laws, principles, strategies, etc. But when you put
yourself on a pedestal....... the game is over - you'll either find one of
your mensa friends to keep you company or be an awful lonely person on here.

To respond to a statement regarding me in a previous post - Hams like "me"
NEVER kept or attempted to keep any one off the air. If anything, I've
gotten people "involved" in Amateur Radio - with one (12 years old at the
time) going on to higher education once out of high school - and getting a
very good job from it. His parents couldn't thank me enough. Even if that is
the only good example of the good I am/was able to do - in Amateur Radio,
then I'm satisfied. But I haven't stopped there........ I teach Amateur
Radio classes when asked - and on other occasions - I've taught basic
electronics - taking those folks beyond the Study Guide.
It is nice to be able to "use" and "impart" that knowledge so that others
can benefit.

My MENSA membership number is 1006281.
What's your MENSA membership number?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

A MENSA membership means you have a high intelligence quotient. A high
intelligence quotient does not necessarily mean you know anything, only
that if you apply yourself that you have the ability to learn more easily
than an average person. I know some very lazy MENSA members that can't
even spell a large number of the words they use.

In other words, even people above average intelligence can be and often
are too lazy to learn. They do manage to apply what they do know better
than most.


Mensa - who gives a damned? Most of the "brilliant" people I've ever met -
had their thumbs up their ass when it came to doing the basic things in
life - they can't do them. What the hell good is a "brilliant" person if
they're too stupid to know how or lazy to do "basic" things? If having a
Mensa number means you're bankrupt in common sense or "lazy", I'd rather not
be a member - thank you. Often, it is "common sense" which gets you
through - NOT "brilliance". From all I've ever heard and /or seen -
"brilliance" and "common sense" don't go hand in hand. Sitting in a chair
with a bunch of books behind you to make you "appear" smart and not getting
off your lazy ass to use it or to further your education - is not a
"productive" person. I know a few welfare bums who fall into that
description- "appear" smart, "act" smart - lazy as hell. Being in the center
of a University Library with books on most any subject - is NOT going to
make you any more intelligent if you don't venture to "learn". Even at that,
if you don't use it, you lose it.

..............
This is funny as all getout angry diatribe snipped

Obviously the person claiming to be a Mensa member has poked a figurative
finger into your soft spot. Sensitive, are you? Taking umbrage? Apparently
you feel that the alleged Mensa member has slighted you either directly or
indirectly, ergo your lengthy and uncalled-for diatribe.
Of course, in your self-righteous response you probably did not consider the
possibility that the "Mensa" person was a troll. Makes no difference, does
it? He certainly set you off on a rant.
I give him five stars for that.

Sit back, read the post again and view it with a bit of a tongue-in-cheek
sense of humor. It will lower your blood pressure. Even if the guy IS a
Mensa member, by the simple fact of him bragging about same shows that he is
a blowgut braggart whose ego has gotten in the way of common sense.
I doubt he is what he says he is, but he certainly elicited a wordy response
from you.
He wins. You lost.

"Olie" nospam@nobody wrote in message ...


My MENSA membership number is 1006281.
What's your MENSA membership number?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

A MENSA membership means you have a high intelligence quotient. A high
intelligence quotient does not necessarily mean you know anything, only
that if you apply yourself that you have the ability to learn more easily
than an average person. I know some very lazy MENSA members that can't
even spell a large number of the words they use.

In other words, even people above average intelligence can be and often
are too lazy to learn. They do manage to apply what they do know better
than most.


Mensa - who gives a damned? Most of the "brilliant" people I've ever met -
had their thumbs up their ass when it came to doing the basic things in
life - they can't do them. What the hell good is a "brilliant" person if
they're too stupid to know how or lazy to do "basic" things? If having a
Mensa number means you're bankrupt in common sense or "lazy", I'd rather
not
be a member - thank you. Often, it is "common sense" which gets you
through - NOT "brilliance". From all I've ever heard and /or seen -
"brilliance" and "common sense" don't go hand in hand. Sitting in a chair
with a bunch of books behind you to make you "appear" smart and not
getting
off your lazy ass to use it or to further your education - is not a
"productive" person. I know a few welfare bums who fall into that
description- "appear" smart, "act" smart - lazy as hell. Being in the
center
of a University Library with books on most any subject - is NOT going to
make you any more intelligent if you don't venture to "learn". Even at
that,
if you don't use it, you lose it.

.............
This is funny as all getout angry diatribe snipped

Obviously the person claiming to be a Mensa member has poked a figurative
finger into your soft spot. Sensitive, are you? Taking umbrage? Apparently
you feel that the alleged Mensa member has slighted you either directly or
indirectly, ergo your lengthy and uncalled-for diatribe.
Of course, in your self-righteous response you probably did not consider
the
possibility that the "Mensa" person was a troll. Makes no difference, does
it? He certainly set you off on a rant.
I give him five stars for that.

Sit back, read the post again and view it with a bit of a tongue-in-cheek
sense of humor. It will lower your blood pressure. Even if the guy IS a
Mensa member, by the simple fact of him bragging about same shows that he
is
a blowgut braggart whose ego has gotten in the way of common sense.
I doubt he is what he says he is, but he certainly elicited a wordy
response
from you.
He wins. You lost.


Eh, not really........... I'm "agreeing" with you as to his content. As to
mine, I was basically replying to what Brenda Ann had said. He didn't hit a
"soft spot". People like that - I just find very ignorant. You're right, it
is funny! My exchange with him died with my last contact with him. I'm
merely replying to others. AND giving my opinion about people like that. Him
get to me? THAT IS FUNNY! I've had better people try. So, in that regard
I'll disagree with you. He didn't budge my blood pressure - one iota. So,
sorry - he gets no stars. I've just agreed to disagree with him and am
agreeing with the others - YOU included (to the point mentioned).

L.

Olie wrote:
Obviously the person claiming to be a Mensa member has poked a figurative
finger into your soft spot. Sensitive, are you? Taking umbrage? Apparently
you feel that the alleged Mensa member has slighted you either directly or
indirectly, ergo your lengthy and uncalled-for diatribe.
Of course, in your self-righteous response you probably did not consider the
possibility that the "Mensa" person was a troll. Makes no difference, does
it? He certainly set you off on a rant. I give him five stars for that.

My reporting my MENSA membership is usually a troll aimed
at someone who feels himself to be superior to everyone else
for some obscure reason, e.g. Morse code skill. Note that
not only is a lack of Morse code skill belittled but MENSA
membership is also belittled. In fact, any difference from
the attitudes and attrubutes of the poster will be belittled.
Even correct definitions of words have been belittled.

Truth is, I got into MENSA because someone lost a bet and
paid for my exam and dues. I am not presently a member of
MENSA because the yearly dues exceed my threshold of pain.
But I am a member of OOTC and FISTS, #8741. :-)
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
om...
Truth is, I got into MENSA because someone lost a bet and
paid for my exam and dues. I am not presently a member of
MENSA because the yearly dues exceed my threshold of pain.
But I am a member of OOTC and FISTS, #8741. :-)

Question (this is not a flame):.

1. Is the ability to decode Morse Code transmissions, in one's own wet modem
(brain), at high speed, proportional or even relevant in any possible way to
one's ability to pass a mensa test and be accepted for membership? Is mensa
membership useful? Is mensa membership a measure of Morse wet modem
throughput?

Cecil, I think you already answered all of the above as 'no'. That doesn't
mean I like the the brand of motorcycle you drive. I do not. I like BMW's
that don't require a toolkit for every 100 miles on the road.

2. Or, (as I suspect), is Morse ability only useful after you have
purchased one's HF equipment, now that one has passed the test (whose
investment you otherwise would not have made until you passed the trivial
but compulsory 5wpm test for Morse code proficiency) to have to have fun and
prevent future alien attacks?

I am an extra class op who passed 13 wpm several years ago, can do 25 wpm
now and getting better all the time just because of heavy (and fun) Morse
action on the cw sub-bands, and wanting to know what people are saying and
being able to communicate back; in fact, CW is almost as good as psk31.

3. Just the same, how much does this mensa thing cost? Is it worth a dinner
for 4?

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
1. Is the ability to decode Morse Code transmissions, in one's own wet modem
(brain), at high speed, proportional or even relevant in any possible way to
one's ability to pass a mensa test and be accepted for membership? Is mensa
membership useful? Is mensa membership a measure of Morse wet modem
throughput?

Rusty, let me answer you this way. In my humble opinion, a MENSA
level IQ is worth magnitudes more to its possessor than is Morse
code skill even within the Amateur Radio Service. If all the coded
hams with IQ's less than 100 were transformed into nocode techs
with MENSA level IQ's, the ARS would be much better off and a lot
less prone to silliness. The ARRL might even stop publishing those
gross technical errors, e.g. reflections don't exist.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

I wish everybody here would use their MENSA and take this thread and the
other non swap related garbage out of rec.radio.swap.

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
1. Is the ability to decode Morse Code transmissions, in one's own wet
modem
(brain), at high speed, proportional or even relevant in any possible
way to
one's ability to pass a mensa test and be accepted for membership? Is
mensa
membership useful? Is mensa membership a measure of Morse wet modem
throughput?

Rusty, let me answer you this way. In my humble opinion, a MENSA
level IQ is worth magnitudes more to its possessor than is Morse
code skill even within the Amateur Radio Service. If all the coded
hams with IQ's less than 100 were transformed into nocode techs
with MENSA level IQ's, the ARS would be much better off and a lot
less prone to silliness. The ARRL might even stop publishing those
gross technical errors, e.g. reflections don't exist.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

a MENSA
level IQ is worth magnitudes more to its possessor than is Morse
code skill even within the Amateur Radio Service. If all the coded
hams with IQ's less than 100 were transformed into nocode techs
with MENSA level IQ's, the ARS would be much better off and a lot
less prone to silliness. The ARRL might even stop publishing those
gross technical errors, e.g. reflections don't exist.
Cecil

you're trolling, aren't you?

If you truly believe this stuff, you're in sadder shape than I thought.

Your MENSA membership is dreck, dribble, dross. With code, there is, at
least, some grounding in practicality: a real world function.

"Whew! I knew I was a genius but now I have PROOF!" How completely sad.

MENSA has perverted the very nature of IQ in a manner not dissimilar to
the way Home Owner Associations have perverted the notion of individual
freedoms (guaranteed by our Constitution).

Enjoy your little trophy but I'm sure you'll keep yourself insulated
from the derision you richly deserve when you bring it up in this newsgroup.

I can tell that you're not a bad guy...but, the mensa thing makes you
seem, I don't know, ...(fill in the blank)

Be Good.
Hell, be more egalitarian for once in your life!
We all share a HOBBY!!!!

John
AB8O

Olie wrote:
My MENSA membership number is 1006281.
What's your MENSA membership number?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

A MENSA membership means you have a high intelligence quotient. A high
intelligence quotient does not necessarily mean you know anything, only
that if you apply yourself that you have the ability to learn more easily
than an average person. I know some very lazy MENSA members that can't
even spell a large number of the words they use.

In other words, even people above average intelligence can be and often
are too lazy to learn. They do manage to apply what they do know better
than most.



Mensa - who gives a damned? Most of the "brilliant" people I've ever met -
had their thumbs up their ass when it came to doing the basic things in
life - they can't do them. What the hell good is a "brilliant" person if
they're too stupid to know how or lazy to do "basic" things? If having a
Mensa number means you're bankrupt in common sense or "lazy", I'd rather not
be a member - thank you. Often, it is "common sense" which gets you
through - NOT "brilliance". From all I've ever heard and /or seen -
"brilliance" and "common sense" don't go hand in hand. Sitting in a chair
with a bunch of books behind you to make you "appear" smart and not getting
off your lazy ass to use it or to further your education - is not a
"productive" person. I know a few welfare bums who fall into that
description- "appear" smart, "act" smart - lazy as hell. Being in the center
of a University Library with books on most any subject - is NOT going to
make you any more intelligent if you don't venture to "learn". Even at that,
if you don't use it, you lose it.

.............
This is funny as all getout angry diatribe snipped

Obviously the person claiming to be a Mensa member has poked a figurative
finger into your soft spot. Sensitive, are you? Taking umbrage? Apparently
you feel that the alleged Mensa member has slighted you either directly or
indirectly, ergo your lengthy and uncalled-for diatribe.
Of course, in your self-righteous response you probably did not consider the
possibility that the "Mensa" person was a troll. Makes no difference, does
it? He certainly set you off on a rant.
I give him five stars for that.

Sit back, read the post again and view it with a bit of a tongue-in-cheek
sense of humor. It will lower your blood pressure. Even if the guy IS a
Mensa member, by the simple fact of him bragging about same shows that he is
a blowgut braggart whose ego has gotten in the way of common sense.
I doubt he is what he says he is, but he certainly elicited a wordy response
from you.
He wins. You lost.




If MENSA membership is important to you, fine. Most of us find it a bit
pretentious and downright silly.

If someone wants to use MENSA to elevate themselves above the rest, they
are perched on very rickety stilts.

jawod wrote:
If MENSA membership is important to you, fine. Most of us find it a bit
pretentious and downright silly.

Ditto for the Morse code testing requirement.
That was the whole point.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp