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Al Klein wrote in
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On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:54:37 GMT, "Woody" wrote:

"Dave Oldridge" wrote in message
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For CW to be effective, both operators
must be competent. IF they are, they can often transcend barriers
of language that only digital modes can get over. In my own case,
the fact that I could read CW and read written Spanish a bit once
enabled me to render aid to a burning fishing boat. (There were
other more routine examples of where the language barrier was
crossed by CW--many messages I copied were not in English at all,
but were readable by their end recipients).


OK.... so by your own words, CW still didn't save a life... CW mixed
with bad Spanish passed a message. So now we'll have to add a Spanish
test. Thanks a lot.


I think you missed the point. Even if you didn't know "ola" from
"adios", you can copy Spanish in CW and hand it to the recipient, who
can read it. Try that with a mic.

As for the language thing.... I can copy voice language and hand it
off to another native just as easy and they'll figure it out too.
No CW necessary.


Really? You can write a spoken language you don't understand well
enough to be read by someone who understands it? Maybe. Maybe not.
In CW, you can.


I can do it (and have done so) using phonetics. But that's SLOWER than
CW.


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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:22:21 GMT, Dave Oldridge
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Al Klein wrote in
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Really? You can write a spoken language you don't understand well
enough to be read by someone who understands it? Maybe. Maybe not.
In CW, you can.


I can do it (and have done so) using phonetics. But that's SLOWER than
CW.


You're preaching to the choir, Dave. I've had to handle foreign
language traffic phonetically by voice and by CW - and I much prefer
CW for that kind of work, even though I prefer voice for most
rag-chewing. As you say, needing it spelled out is quite slow.
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Al Klein wrote:
You're preaching to the choir, Dave. I've had to handle foreign
language traffic phonetically by voice and by CW - and I much prefer
CW for that kind of work, even though I prefer voice for most
rag-chewing. As you say, needing it spelled out is quite slow.


I prefer phonetics myself. So are you advocating using the
coercive force of the federal government to enforce your
preferences instead of mine? Of course you are!
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:54:31 GMT, Cecil Moore
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Al Klein wrote:
You're preaching to the choir, Dave. I've had to handle foreign
language traffic phonetically by voice and by CW - and I much prefer
CW for that kind of work, even though I prefer voice for most
rag-chewing. As you say, needing it spelled out is quite slow.


I prefer phonetics myself. So are you advocating using the
coercive force of the federal government to enforce your
preferences instead of mine? Of course you are!


Of course you don't understand a thing Dave and I are discussing. It's
surprising that you can find the "on" switch on your computer.

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Al Klein wrote:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:54:31 GMT, Cecil Moore
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Al Klein wrote:
You're preaching to the choir, Dave. I've had to handle foreign
language traffic phonetically by voice and by CW - and I much prefer
CW for that kind of work, even though I prefer voice for most
rag-chewing. As you say, needing it spelled out is quite slow.


I prefer phonetics myself. So are you advocating using the
coercive force of the federal government to enforce your
preferences instead of mine? Of course you are!


Of course you don't understand a thing Dave and I are discussing. It's
surprising that you can find the "on" switch on your computer.

well are you still tlaking to anybody here AL

your problem is that we all see your number way to well for your comfort



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Al Klein wrote:
Of course you don't understand a thing Dave and I are discussing. It's
surprising that you can find the "on" switch on your computer.


My MENSA membership number is 1006281. What's yours?
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Cecil Moore wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
Of course you don't understand a thing Dave and I are discussing. It's
surprising that you can find the "on" switch on your computer.


My MENSA membership number is 1006281. What's yours?


now ccil must not be boastfull he was just expresing his own stupidity
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Cecil Moore wrote in news:KPJHg.39$6R7.22
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Al Klein wrote:
Of course you don't understand a thing Dave and I are discussing. It's
surprising that you can find the "on" switch on your computer.


My MENSA membership number is 1006281. What's yours?


I don't bother with low-IQ clubs myself. Or high-IQ ones for that matter.

I did do some work on the question of human intelligence back in the 60's.
It was interesting. We used factor analysis (now called PCA) and came to
the conclusion that it is a six-dimensional vector quantity--to the extent
you can measure it at all.


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My MENSA membership number is 1006281. What's yours?


What's your Social Security number?
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jawod wrote:
My MENSA membership number is 1006281. What's yours?


What's your Social Security number?


.... 66 ... 6
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