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On 25/08/2013 15:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote:


Meanwhile, if you want help on this or any other list or forum, I highly
suggest you change your approach. The one you are using will quickly
drive people away from trying to help you.


Those of us who have attempted to help this character in the past have
the sense to avoid him.

This thread has developed exactly as I expected, with his insulting
those attempting to assist him.

Needless to say, he will never share his supposed new found knowledge
from the book he has 'found'.

Big K and 1/T all over again!




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On 8/25/2013 10:46 AM, philo wrote:
On 08/25/2013 09:25 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
X


snip

And if you still think everyone else is wrong, perhaps you need to
rewrite the physics books. I'm sure the entire world would love to be
"enlightened" by your misconceptions. I've been licensed since 1967,
(in fact my first receiver was a Hallicrafters SK-43) have studied them
in college and designed circuits around them, and I actually understand
how they work. No one here has asked a non-pertinent question - or
provided non-pertinent information.

Meanwhile, if you want help on this or any other list or forum, I highly
suggest you change your approach. The one you are using will quickly
drive people away from trying to help you.



Unfortunately "gareth" is a troll and has now been filtered from my feed.

In the years I have been on Usenet I have seen numerous rambling and
unfocused questions but I always give the poster the benefit of the
doubt at first. As soon as they attack those trying to help, I realize
they are just trolling and no longer view their posts.


Yup, I figured that out after reading u.r.a. Thanks for the confirmation.


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Old August 25th 13, 03:51 PM posted to uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
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On 08/25/2013 09:48 AM, Brian Reay wrote:
On 25/08/2013 15:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote:


Meanwhile, if you want help on this or any other list or forum, I highly
suggest you change your approach. The one you are using will quickly
drive people away from trying to help you.


Those of us who have attempted to help this character in the past have
the sense to avoid him.

This thread has developed exactly as I expected, with his insulting
those attempting to assist him.

Needless to say, he will never share his supposed new found knowledge
from the book he has 'found'.

Big K and 1/T all over again!







Well, even though the guy is a troll, I always try to make to best of
everything. Though I had known about the "homebrew" group I had never
before known of the existence of the "boatanchor" group.

I can now relive the good old days.

Through the years I have gotten rid of most of my "boatanchors"
but happily still have my HQ-140-X

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 8/25/2013 10:26 AM, gareth wrote:
"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message
...
On 8/25/2013 10:13 AM, gareth wrote:
"philo " wrote in message
...
Your question is rather unfocused. You have not even given details as to
the filter type...viz: chebychev filter, butterworth filter. etc.
Additionally, the BFO has nothing at all to do with filtering and
as you have seen by the answers here, only confuses the issue.
Once you have your thoughts organized feel free to post back with a
coherent question. There is no need for you to talk rudely to those who
have attempted to answer your ill-formed query.
I've been licensed since 1964 so may very well qualify as senior and
experienced. As to knowledgeable...? I'm still in the learning phase.
Now that I think of it, it appears perhaps that you have only been
attempting to be humorous. Throughout my Usenet peregrinations I view
your
phraseology as being analogous to that class of inquiry oft posted
during
the zeroth +1 day of April.

If you were, indeed, licensed in 1964, then it is high time that you
presented
a more mature attitude to public debate. Your comments about rudeness
above
would seem to be Freudian Projection.

I have not been rude, but I have replied to those who have been rude, and
corrected those
who misunderstood the issues.


Incorrect. You have (and continue) to be rude, arrogant and, basically, a
horse's ass. And if someone misunderstood the issues, it is because YOU
did not explain yourself properly.


Grow up.



Ah, I just read the relevant posts in uk.radio.amateur. Looks like this
is pretty normal operation for you.

But then trolls are like that, and always blame everyone else for their
bad behavior. Maybe this is normal operation in your family, or maybe
your mother didn't teach you any manners. But this is not how CIVILIZED
people ask questions.


Gareth Alun Evans G4SDW has quite the colourful past history in
uk.radio.amateur. If you fancy a good laugh, have a delve through the
Google Groups archive. It will not surprise you to learn that his behaviour
at one point eventually resulted in a police officer standing on his head.

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On 08/25/2013 09:50 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 8/25/2013 10:46 AM, philo wrote:
On 08/25/2013 09:25 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
X


snip

And if you still think everyone else is wrong, perhaps you need to
rewrite the physics books. I'm sure the entire world would love to be
"enlightened" by your misconceptions. I've been licensed since 1967,
(in fact my first receiver was a Hallicrafters SK-43) have studied them
in college and designed circuits around them, and I actually understand
how they work. No one here has asked a non-pertinent question - or
provided non-pertinent information.

Meanwhile, if you want help on this or any other list or forum, I highly
suggest you change your approach. The one you are using will quickly
drive people away from trying to help you.



Unfortunately "gareth" is a troll and has now been filtered from my feed.

In the years I have been on Usenet I have seen numerous rambling and
unfocused questions but I always give the poster the benefit of the
doubt at first. As soon as they attack those trying to help, I realize
they are just trolling and no longer view their posts.


Yup, I figured that out after reading u.r.a. Thanks for the confirmation.




Well, I never let trolls bother me too much...but I suppose I should
really check my own kill-filter to determine whether or not it's a
Butterworth : )


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On 8/25/2013 10:52 AM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 8/25/2013 10:26 AM, gareth wrote:
"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message
...
On 8/25/2013 10:13 AM, gareth wrote:
"philo " wrote in message
...
Your question is rather unfocused. You have not even given details as to
the filter type...viz: chebychev filter, butterworth filter. etc.
Additionally, the BFO has nothing at all to do with filtering and
as you have seen by the answers here, only confuses the issue.
Once you have your thoughts organized feel free to post back with a
coherent question. There is no need for you to talk rudely to those who
have attempted to answer your ill-formed query.
I've been licensed since 1964 so may very well qualify as senior and
experienced. As to knowledgeable...? I'm still in the learning phase.
Now that I think of it, it appears perhaps that you have only been
attempting to be humorous. Throughout my Usenet peregrinations I view
your
phraseology as being analogous to that class of inquiry oft posted
during
the zeroth +1 day of April.

If you were, indeed, licensed in 1964, then it is high time that you
presented
a more mature attitude to public debate. Your comments about rudeness
above
would seem to be Freudian Projection.

I have not been rude, but I have replied to those who have been rude, and
corrected those
who misunderstood the issues.


Incorrect. You have (and continue) to be rude, arrogant and, basically, a
horse's ass. And if someone misunderstood the issues, it is because YOU
did not explain yourself properly.

Grow up.



Ah, I just read the relevant posts in uk.radio.amateur. Looks like this
is pretty normal operation for you.

But then trolls are like that, and always blame everyone else for their
bad behavior. Maybe this is normal operation in your family, or maybe
your mother didn't teach you any manners. But this is not how CIVILIZED
people ask questions.


Gareth Alun Evans G4SDW has quite the colourful past history in
uk.radio.amateur. If you fancy a good laugh, have a delve through the
Google Groups archive. It will not surprise you to learn that his behaviour
at one point eventually resulted in a police officer standing on his head.


ROFLMAO. I would have loved to see that!

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On 8/25/2013 10:54 AM, philo wrote:
On 08/25/2013 09:50 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 8/25/2013 10:46 AM, philo wrote:
On 08/25/2013 09:25 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
X

snip

And if you still think everyone else is wrong, perhaps you need to
rewrite the physics books. I'm sure the entire world would love to be
"enlightened" by your misconceptions. I've been licensed since 1967,
(in fact my first receiver was a Hallicrafters SK-43) have studied them
in college and designed circuits around them, and I actually understand
how they work. No one here has asked a non-pertinent question - or
provided non-pertinent information.

Meanwhile, if you want help on this or any other list or forum, I
highly
suggest you change your approach. The one you are using will quickly
drive people away from trying to help you.



Unfortunately "gareth" is a troll and has now been filtered from my
feed.

In the years I have been on Usenet I have seen numerous rambling and
unfocused questions but I always give the poster the benefit of the
doubt at first. As soon as they attack those trying to help, I realize
they are just trolling and no longer view their posts.


Yup, I figured that out after reading u.r.a. Thanks for the
confirmation.




Well, I never let trolls bother me too much...but I suppose I should
really check my own kill-filter to determine whether or not it's a
Butterworth : )


Don't bother - he doesn't know the difference, so it's unrelated to his
question (IOW, he can't answer, so he blames everyone else for his
ignorance).

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On 08/25/2013 09:52 AM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:


snipped for brevity


It will not surprise you to learn that his behaviour
at one point eventually resulted in a police officer standing on his head.




Even though I completely understood your statement, my brain always
likes to see things in a humorous manner and often twists things around.


I imagined , rather than a police officer subduing the troll who posted
here... the officer in an inverted position.
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Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Scott Dorsey writes:

Mine too, I don't really understand what you're asking. The crystal
filter
is a bandpass filter. The phasing control affects the symmetry of the
filter somewhat (but not really all that much).


The crystal by itself has a natural 'blow-suck' signal throughput, with a
sharp notch just HF of the peak. The phasing control capacitor should be
able to move the notch to the LF side of the peak, and also (to a limited
extent) to move the notch a little closer to the peak (on either side).


Yes, and that notch is useful for eliminating a single interfering CW
signal. But it's not useful for multiple interfering signals or much
at all for SSB.

"Single signal reception" to me would imply a narrow-sloped bandpass
filter but it sounds more like marketing than engineering.
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On 08/25/2013 09:59 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 8/25/2013 10:54 AM, philo wrote:
On 08/25/2013 09:50 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 8/25/2013 10:46 AM, philo wrote:
On 08/25/2013 09:25 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
X

snip

And if you still think everyone else is wrong, perhaps you need to
rewrite the physics books. I'm sure the entire world would love to be
"enlightened" by your misconceptions. I've been licensed since 1967,
(in fact my first receiver was a Hallicrafters SK-43) have studied
them
in college and designed circuits around them, and I actually
understand
how they work. No one here has asked a non-pertinent question - or
provided non-pertinent information.

Meanwhile, if you want help on this or any other list or forum, I
highly
suggest you change your approach. The one you are using will quickly
drive people away from trying to help you.



Unfortunately "gareth" is a troll and has now been filtered from my
feed.

In the years I have been on Usenet I have seen numerous rambling and
unfocused questions but I always give the poster the benefit of the
doubt at first. As soon as they attack those trying to help, I realize
they are just trolling and no longer view their posts.

Yup, I figured that out after reading u.r.a. Thanks for the
confirmation.




Well, I never let trolls bother me too much...but I suppose I should
really check my own kill-filter to determine whether or not it's a
Butterworth : )


Don't bother - he doesn't know the difference, so it's unrelated to his
question (IOW, he can't answer, so he blames everyone else for his
ignorance).




I just stuck that in their to give him a taste of his own medicine, so
to speak.,,,but I should have just ignored the guy in the first place.
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