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In article , Aaron Jones
writes: I think the present Extra test is much harder than that General was then as far a *technical questions* are concerned. I disagree! The old tests required some understanding of the material. The new ones are like the Susquehanna River - a mile wide and a foot deep. However the current ham tests are easier to memorize and pass without knowing anything. I will admit that as a high school student I was able to pass the General test in 1958 without knowing much... ![]() About 1964, the years are blurring together, incentive licensing degraded my general and I took the Advanced. Late 1968. Yep, did the same thing, although somewhat later than you. A guy by the name of Bash got me going. Seems he published a book with the *exact* questions and answers for the exams. Everyone seemed to think that was cheating at the time. How things change... It *was* cheating. Here's why: At the time, the exams were secret. The exact Q&A were kept locked up by FCC. "By mail" exams required that the volunteer examiner certify that s/he would not copy or divulge the contents to anyone. The Advanced and Extra weren't available by mail at all. You had to wait 30 days to retest because the question pools weren't very big. The FCC published a study guide of essay questions that gave a good indication of the subject matter on the test, but not the exact Q&A. What Dick Bash did was to ask people coming out of FCC exams what the exact questions and answers on the test were. He paid for the information. Some folks in the FCC wanted to prosecute him, but the top dogs said no. A few years later, FCC turned the whole testing process over to the VECs, saving themselves a lot of time and money. But at the time Bash did his thing, it was clearly cheating. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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In article , Aaron Jones
writes: (N2EY) wrote: It [Bash] *was* cheating. Someone always feels cheated: Extras when Generals were given their frequencies in 1953. Advanceds too. "No kids, no lids, no space cadets, Class A operators only..." Generals when their frequencies were later taken away. I wuz there, I remember. The Government when Bash helped get em back with . With what? FCC didn't do a thing. Fossil hams when the Government started using Bash test methods. I'm only 50 - not quite a fossil yet... And you Jim when I have my Extra given to me for sitting on my butt... ![]() When's that going to happen? You have Advanced, right? Which means you've been waiting as much as 36 years..... Good to hear from ya, "Aaron". 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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Nice shot Jim !
The advanced: When I sat in front of the FCC examiner way back when, I thought that was the most technically difficult exam, and still think so. Bob W1CNY -- ... All outgoing mail and files scanned by GRISOFT ANTI-VIRUS PROFESSIONAL EDITION. http://www.w1cny.com/w1cny-1 W1CNY CCA-AC02-11321 Collins Collectors Association http://www.collinsradio.org Nets: Tues: 3.805 Mc-2000 Central / Thur: 3.875 Mc-2000 Central Fri: 3.895 Mc-2000 Pacific / Sun: 14.263 Mc-2000 UTC 1st Wed (of the month) AM Net 3.880 Mc-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) Sun AM Net: 29.050 Mc-1200 Central Researching the surnames: DAUGELA, DAUGIELOS, DOWGIALO, DOWGIELLO and VAITKUS, WAITKUS, SZEZTAKAUSKAS, RINALDI, RANAUDO, CIAMPI. CAMPI. MACIULIS, PHELAN, STAPLETON, SURVELIUTE The gold in the "Golden Years" is really rust ! "N2EY" wrote in message ... In article , Aaron Jones writes: (N2EY) wrote: It [Bash] *was* cheating. Someone always feels cheated: Extras when Generals were given their frequencies in 1953. Advanceds too. "No kids, no lids, no space cadets, Class A operators only..." Generals when their frequencies were later taken away. I wuz there, I remember. The Government when Bash helped get em back with . With what? FCC didn't do a thing. Fossil hams when the Government started using Bash test methods. I'm only 50 - not quite a fossil yet... And you Jim when I have my Extra given to me for sitting on my butt... ![]() When's that going to happen? You have Advanced, right? Which means you've been waiting as much as 36 years..... Good to hear from ya, "Aaron". 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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Bob Rinaldi wrote:
Nice shot Jim ! The advanced: When I sat in front of the FCC examiner way back when, I thought that was the most technically difficult exam, and still think so. Bob W1CNY Anybody who had to go to Atlanta for their tests in the late 60s and early 70s will remember the ill-tempered old biddy who dealt with exams. She had a special place on her list from those of us from the Charlotte area because we were 'supposed' to go to Norfolk instead of bothering her. Passing one of 'her' tests had a bit of added satisfaction. -Bill M |
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