On 11/23/05 7:07 AM, in article ,
"Beerbarrel" wrote:

On 23 Nov 2005 07:01:14 -0800, "Peter Wieck" wrote:

Sissies....

Beer, with all due respect, if you say so. And if you mean by "sissies"
that I (we) value human life over testosterone poisoning, I would be
proud of the designation.

Be well, have a good Thanksgiving!

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Good for you! We go to the middle east for 2 different reasons that is
for damn sure. It has nothing to do with testosterone. It has
everything to do with supporting your country. I think in your case
you should have stayed with the people you love so dearly. We sure
don't need or want you here.

Who do you speak for when you say "we sure don't need....?" I bet you have
a mouse in your pocket.

I, and possibly others, disagree with you trying to speak for us.

Don

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:30:48 -0800, Don Bowey
wrote:

On 11/23/05 7:07 AM, in article ,
"Beerbarrel" wrote:

On 23 Nov 2005 07:01:14 -0800, "Peter Wieck" wrote:

Sissies....

Beer, with all due respect, if you say so. And if you mean by "sissies"
that I (we) value human life over testosterone poisoning, I would be
proud of the designation.

Be well, have a good Thanksgiving!

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Good for you! We go to the middle east for 2 different reasons that is
for damn sure. It has nothing to do with testosterone. It has
everything to do with supporting your country. I think in your case
you should have stayed with the people you love so dearly. We sure
don't need or want you here.

Who do you speak for when you say "we sure don't need....?" I bet you have
a mouse in your pocket.

I, and possibly others, disagree with you trying to speak for us.

Don



Then you have him Don.....He is all yours!

Don Bowey wrote:

I, and possibly others, disagree with you trying to speak for us.

Don


With his viscious thinking, no one would admit to agreeing with Beerbarrel.

I would suggest we drop this thread, we are going to change no ones mind
about politics. Lets get back to discussing BA.

Lazy Senior

"Lazy Senior" wrote in message news:S20hf.1207$R42.1201@trnddc01...
| Don Bowey wrote:
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| I, and possibly others, disagree with you trying to speak for us.
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| Don
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| With his viscious thinking, no one would admit to agreeing with Beerbarrel.
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| I would suggest we drop this thread, we are going to change no ones mind
| about politics. Lets get back to discussing BA.
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| Lazy Senior

especially since your version of the facts have been debunked indeed yes let us move on.
mit

MIT wrote:


especially since your version of the facts have been debunked indeed yes let us move on.
mit



Debunk? You cant debunk opinions.

Opinions are like assholes - Everyone has one and they all stink except
yours.....

Lazy Senior

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:12:23 GMT, Lazy Senior
wrote:

MIT wrote:


especially since your version of the facts have been debunked indeed yes let us move on.
mit



Debunk? You cant debunk opinions.

Opinions are like assholes - Everyone has one and they all stink except
yours.....

Lazy Senior



I see you can't even follow your own suggestion. That's funny...

Beerbarrel wrote:

I see you can't even follow your own suggestion. That's funny...


I am just like you in this regard - I just have to have the last word.

Lazy Senior

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:25:39 GMT, Lazy Senior
wrote:

Beerbarrel wrote:

I see you can't even follow your own suggestion. That's funny...


I am just like you in this regard - I just have to have the last word.

Lazy Senior



I'm not the one that suggested that we stop this thread....you are!

Practice what you preach, deatbeat old timer!

Beerbarrel wrote:
sissies!

It is popular fodder for Republicans to portray Democrats (or anyone
else who rubs their fur the wrong way) as a bunch of wimps.

Well, let's take a brief look at history over the last century.......

World War I-Prosecuted by the administration of Woodrow Wilson, a
Democrat. The first truly mechanized war, and the first widespread use
of chemical weapons in war. The USA and its allies were ultimately
victorious, but things soon turned ugly. Wilson's failed attempts to
secure a lasting postwar peace led to a complete destruction of his
health. Widespread postwar unemployment and a health care system
strained to its limits by a pandemic spread by returning troops made
victory bittersweet.

World War II-Prosecuted by the administration of Franklin Delano
Roosevelt, a Democrat. The most complete military victory in American
history led to the emergence of the USA as a superpower, and the pent-up
demand for long-rationed consumer goods led to a booming economy as
well. But victory came at a heavy price....A quater of a million US
lives lost, and a postwar world enormously complicated by the
development and deployment of atomic weapons.

Korean Conflict-Prosecuted by the administration of Harry S. Truman, a
Democrat. Although some of the same brilliant strategists who engineered
the victory in WWII were involved in this conflict (including Douglas
MacArthur for a time), The best the US and its allies were able to
accomplish in two years of fighting was a draw....Not good for a
military action that claimed at least 32,000 American lives.

Vietnam Conflict-Prosecuted by the administration of Lyndon B. Johnson,
a Democrat. This war became so unpopular that Johnson was forced to give
up his bid to serve the longest period of any post WWII president. By
1968, the nation was the most divided it had been since the Civil War.
Richard Nixon, Johnson's White House Descendant, fared little better
with the war effort and finally called it quits in 1973 after 55,000
American lives had been lost. It should be noted that many high-ranking
officials of the current Bush administration came of age during the
Vietnam involvement. Most of them, including the President himself,
received student deferments and/or National Guard appointments and did
not play a combat role in this conflict.

Desert Storm-Prosecuted by the administration of George H.W. Bush, a
Republican. Mission accomplished.....light casualties and total victory
over the enemy in a popular and patriotic war. Sounds like a home run,
right? That's what the Republicans thought, too....Until voters sent
Bush packing in favor of Republican arch-enemy Bill Clinton, making Bush
the first single-term Republican president since Herbert Hoover.


It can be seen that the outcome and aftermath of these conflicts is
definitely a mixed bag, and that most of them were prosecuted by
Democratic administrations. Does the current Democratic skittishness
about the Iraq war mean that they are just sissies and wimps-or could it
be that it is because the Democrats have learned some awful truths about
the social and political costs of waging modern warfare that the
Republicans have yet to learn?


-Scott



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Scott W. Harvey wrote:

Beerbarrel wrote:
sissies!

It is popular fodder for Republicans to portray Democrats (or anyone
else who rubs their fur the wrong way) as a bunch of wimps.

Well, let's take a brief look at history over the last century.......

No, lets don't. The Dem/Repub debate weirdnesses have taken on a
totally new character in recent years. 'Pubs want to blow the enemies
off the face of the earth come hell or high water and scoot it under
legal and public scrutiny while Dems....well, Dems haven't offered
anything except a whiney campaign about how the Pubs are doing it all wrong.
I'd rather be in a trench with a 'pub when the bullets are flying.

I wonder if those folks scurrying out of the WTC would have been prone
to wave a partisan flag before they died? Party politics didn't result
in their death. Nutters from another part of the planet caused their
demise. I say deal with the nutters rather than each other.

-Bill