* David Kaye wrote, On 5/21/2011 10:23 AM:
I've heard them do
programs on diabetes, heart disease, keeping families together -- all
laudable things that hopefully help people.



Some of the people in the trenches do try to be legitimate broadcasters.

JT
--

* Mark Howell wrote, On 5/21/2011 10:23 AM:
Apparently they have some sort of cable TV operation, according to a
news report I saw last night.

Well, leave it to ABC to get it wrong. They could have bothered asking
any of us who were there during their interview session.

Currently we have four LPTVs (three of which are Class-A) and two
translators in Northern California covering the SF Bay area from San
Bruno Mtn., Chico & Sacramento from the Sutter Buttes, Chico &
environs from Cohassett, Redding & region from South Fork and Red
Bluff, etc. from the Tuscan Buttes. Oh, and our remaining analog
translator covering the valley north of Stockton to Fresno and from
Mt. Bullion.

We also have a full power non-com that serves northern NJ/NYC, and has
cable/satellite carriage in NYC and the region.

Then there are the Boise and Twin Falls LPTVs that may or may not be
on the air ATM. (Winter construction delays, y'know?)

As Mike Ward pointed out, we used to own ch. 64, Stockton, which was
sold to Univision/Telefutura in 2003 at which time we bought ch. 28 in
SF and moved the KFTL callsign. Being a Class-A LPTV doesn't get us
cable/satellite carriage, so only those with antennas can receive us.

JT
--

* Patty Winter wrote, On 5/20/2011 10:28 PM:

How many people work at FR? And about how many of those do you think
do or don't expect to come back to work on Monday?



There's probably a hundred or so in Oakland, and maybe another hundred
or so nationwide. I'm sure some will hide out for a while until they
realize they're not getting paid for time off.

A few will arrive with stunned looks on their faces Monday morning-
whispering their speculative disappointment in the corners, looking
furtively around, wondering how this could have happened.

Many of us will simply arrive to work as usual and hope that we can
survive with an intact paycheck.


TV staff? FR has TV shows, too? I don't see any TV stations listed
on their "Stations" page.


Heh. We've always been the odd-man-out/black sheep of Family Stations.
KFTL-CD, Channel 28, San Francisco from San Bruno Mountain. Studios in
Oakland next to Family Radio headquarters.

Any video of Family Bible Study and Open Forum that have been on the
FR web site originated in our studio. Open Forum has originated from
the TV studio since 1988.


I think it's safe to say that the facilities will still be there. The
question will be whether any of the leaders will want to show their
faces again to keep their programming` on the air...


One of the board members has been hiding in Ohio this week, another
hasn't been seen at Family Radio for several weeks and the third is
Harold's daughter who doesn't appear to have a mind of her own. (But
that could be said of the other board members too. How does one get to
be as old as they are with neither testicles nor spine?)

So who's feeding the network now? The same staff that's always on
duty on weekends?


I don't know what our Network Control manager told his staff- and I'm
pretty sure radio programming will be something of a mess for a while.
Our programming people had their creativity amputated and cauterized
long ago.

I look after my own spheres of influence. I am operations manager of
KFTL-CD (Meaning that some days I manage to operate!). I am also the
default external Internet connectivity guy for FRHQ and look after the
mp3 stream encoders that function as STLs for direct-to-home satellite
uplinking in the U.K. There's a few other hats I wear from time to
time. It all sounds much more important that it really is.

JT
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On Sat, 21 May 2011 00:48:26 EDT, spamtrap1888
wrote:

We have not forgotten November 1978 and *that*
group of committed faithful. (We did, however, bring our own pizza and
cupcakes!)

Does John T mean 1994? Or was there an earlier end of the world?

November 1978. Jonestown, Guyana. Peoples' Temple. James Jones,
laced Kool-Aid.

One operation that I can't forget.

John T had written:
|
| As Mike Ward pointed out, we used to own ch. 64, Stockton, which was
| sold to Univision/Telefutura in 2003 at which time we bought ch. 28 in
| SF and moved the KFTL callsign. Being a Class-A LPTV doesn't get us
| cable/satellite carriage, so only those with antennas can receive us.

I'm surprised FR hasn't been able to negotiate something with
Kabletown ... er, I mean Comcast.

I guess we should check tomorrow to see if the HSN feed on 28.2 has
been turned off, as it normally is on Sundays on the station.

In any event, KFTL comes in at my house better than KNTV does
(both sited at Mt. San Bruno).

--
Mark Roberts - E-Mail address is valid but I don't use Google Groups
If you quote, please quote only relevant passages and not the whole article.

* Mark Roberts wrote, On 5/21/2011 6:45 PM:

I guess we should check tomorrow to see if the HSN feed on 28.2 has
been turned off, as it normally is on Sundays on the station.


No change there yet. In the absence of direction we'll maintain that
pattern. No need to go out of our way to offend the powers that remain
(if they return).

Programming on 28.1 will not include any Harold or his people, mainly
due to the fact that *everything* has been about Judgment Day for a
couple of years. If you have ever been a fan of the old _This Is The
Life_ dramas, we'll be airing a lot of that along with _The Joy of
Music_ and Bible reading starting today, as a matter of fact.

We may air some of our public domain shows and movies after Sunday,
but I don't think anything is set yet.

In any event, KFTL comes in at my house better than KNTV does
(both sited at Mt. San Bruno).


We're on the same tower as KKPX (ch. 65) and the last remaining analog
station in SF, MTV Tr3s, ch. 40. KNTV is on the southern-most tower
where KCSM's analog used to be.

JT
--

"John T" wrote

I don't know what our Network Control manager told his staff- and I'm
pretty sure radio programming will be something of a mess for a while.

I've been listening off and on throughout the day and it's been largely
music with some Bible reading here and there. Either I'm interpreting
something that isn't there or a couple of the guys who are doing the
readings are picking out passages that dig at Hal. One read something about
false prophets. Another guy later said something about not knowing what is
in God's mind, etc. Could be pretaped coincidences or who knows...

"John T" wrote

If you have ever been a fan of the old _This Is The Life_ dramas, we'll be
airing a lot of that along with _The Joy of Music_ and Bible reading
starting today, as a matter of fact.

"This Is The Life" is actually very well done. I haven't seen it in years.
I remember occasionallly seeing it on various stations back in the day when
stations ran pubaffairs and inspirational stuff on Sundays.

This must be very hard for you folks to figure out what to do at this
juncture. Good luck.

David Kaye wrote:

While I think Family Radio's programming is quite bogus for the most part, I
will say that they do try to do public affairs programming to relate to
their audience -- and who does pubaffairs anymore? I've heard them do
programs on diabetes, heart disease, keeping families together -- all
laudable things that hopefully help people.

Back around 1980 or so, WYFR broadcasts in the 40M combined ham/shortwave
broadcast band had a substantial second harmonic that was falling into the
20M ham band. I wrote the station engineer a nice letter describing what
was happening, and I received back a QSL card and a letter asking for money.

Over the course of the next decade or so, I continued receiving begging
letters from Family radio on and off, and as the decade went on, the quality
of the letters improved from something printed on a misaligned chain printer
on newsprint, on up to personalized letters printed with a nice daisywheel
printer on good paper, on up to letters laser printed (and this was the age
before laser printers became quite so cheap) on linen rag.

So all I can think is that SOMEONE must have been sending them money. But
it wasn't me. And the second harmonic interference continued for some time,
though not anywhere near as long as the letters.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

David Kaye wrote:

I've never met Harold Camping, though in the past I knew a couple people who
did radio production there. From what I remember them saying, I'd surmise
that he'll just do business as usual and talk about a miscalculation or
perhaps that God decided not to rush to judgment or something. There aren't
many ways to save face on something like this, but most people have already
dismissed him a a kook, so he doesn't have to appease them anyway.

The Jehovah's Witnesses predicted the apocalypse in 1928, and when it did not
happen, they revised it to some time in the 40s. It didn't happen then
either. After the second false alarm, they adopted the (reasonable) doctrine
that nobody could know when it was going to happen. They are still around
today, which is a sign that bad predictions like this won't completely kill
your credibility among deluded followers.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."