"Patty Winter" wrote in message
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TV staff? FR has TV shows, too? I don't see any TV stations listed
on their "Stations" page.

Apparently they have some sort of cable TV operation, according to a news
report I saw last night.

Mark Howell

* Mark Howell wrote, On 5/21/2011 10:23 AM:
Apparently they have some sort of cable TV operation, according to a
news report I saw last night.

Well, leave it to ABC to get it wrong. They could have bothered asking
any of us who were there during their interview session.

Currently we have four LPTVs (three of which are Class-A) and two
translators in Northern California covering the SF Bay area from San
Bruno Mtn., Chico & Sacramento from the Sutter Buttes, Chico &
environs from Cohassett, Redding & region from South Fork and Red
Bluff, etc. from the Tuscan Buttes. Oh, and our remaining analog
translator covering the valley north of Stockton to Fresno and from
Mt. Bullion.

We also have a full power non-com that serves northern NJ/NYC, and has
cable/satellite carriage in NYC and the region.

Then there are the Boise and Twin Falls LPTVs that may or may not be
on the air ATM. (Winter construction delays, y'know?)

As Mike Ward pointed out, we used to own ch. 64, Stockton, which was
sold to Univision/Telefutura in 2003 at which time we bought ch. 28 in
SF and moved the KFTL callsign. Being a Class-A LPTV doesn't get us
cable/satellite carriage, so only those with antennas can receive us.

JT
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John T had written:
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| As Mike Ward pointed out, we used to own ch. 64, Stockton, which was
| sold to Univision/Telefutura in 2003 at which time we bought ch. 28 in
| SF and moved the KFTL callsign. Being a Class-A LPTV doesn't get us
| cable/satellite carriage, so only those with antennas can receive us.

I'm surprised FR hasn't been able to negotiate something with
Kabletown ... er, I mean Comcast.

I guess we should check tomorrow to see if the HSN feed on 28.2 has
been turned off, as it normally is on Sundays on the station.

In any event, KFTL comes in at my house better than KNTV does
(both sited at Mt. San Bruno).

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* Patty Winter wrote, On 5/20/2011 10:28 PM:

How many people work at FR? And about how many of those do you think
do or don't expect to come back to work on Monday?



There's probably a hundred or so in Oakland, and maybe another hundred
or so nationwide. I'm sure some will hide out for a while until they
realize they're not getting paid for time off.

A few will arrive with stunned looks on their faces Monday morning-
whispering their speculative disappointment in the corners, looking
furtively around, wondering how this could have happened.

Many of us will simply arrive to work as usual and hope that we can
survive with an intact paycheck.


TV staff? FR has TV shows, too? I don't see any TV stations listed
on their "Stations" page.


Heh. We've always been the odd-man-out/black sheep of Family Stations.
KFTL-CD, Channel 28, San Francisco from San Bruno Mountain. Studios in
Oakland next to Family Radio headquarters.

Any video of Family Bible Study and Open Forum that have been on the
FR web site originated in our studio. Open Forum has originated from
the TV studio since 1988.


I think it's safe to say that the facilities will still be there. The
question will be whether any of the leaders will want to show their
faces again to keep their programming` on the air...


One of the board members has been hiding in Ohio this week, another
hasn't been seen at Family Radio for several weeks and the third is
Harold's daughter who doesn't appear to have a mind of her own. (But
that could be said of the other board members too. How does one get to
be as old as they are with neither testicles nor spine?)

So who's feeding the network now? The same staff that's always on
duty on weekends?


I don't know what our Network Control manager told his staff- and I'm
pretty sure radio programming will be something of a mess for a while.
Our programming people had their creativity amputated and cauterized
long ago.

I look after my own spheres of influence. I am operations manager of
KFTL-CD (Meaning that some days I manage to operate!). I am also the
default external Internet connectivity guy for FRHQ and look after the
mp3 stream encoders that function as STLs for direct-to-home satellite
uplinking in the U.K. There's a few other hats I wear from time to
time. It all sounds much more important that it really is.

JT
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"John T" wrote

I don't know what our Network Control manager told his staff- and I'm
pretty sure radio programming will be something of a mess for a while.

I've been listening off and on throughout the day and it's been largely
music with some Bible reading here and there. Either I'm interpreting
something that isn't there or a couple of the guys who are doing the
readings are picking out passages that dig at Hal. One read something about
false prophets. Another guy later said something about not knowing what is
in God's mind, etc. Could be pretaped coincidences or who knows...

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John T wrote:
Patty Winter wrote, On 5/20/2011 10:28 PM:

TV staff? FR has TV shows, too? I don't see any TV stations listed
on their "Stations" page.

Heh. We've always been the odd-man-out/black sheep of Family Stations.
KFTL-CD, Channel 28, San Francisco from San Bruno Mountain. Studios in
Oakland next to Family Radio headquarters.

Ah, okay. Guess I don't get it. I just looked at my OTA list and that
one isn't on it. I just rescanned a few weeks ago, so my list is up
to date.


Any video of Family Bible Study and Open Forum that have been on the
FR web site originated in our studio. Open Forum has originated from
the TV studio since 1988.

I didn't notice any video links on the FR website, but maybe I missed
them. I'm still waiting for the May 19th Open Forum MP3 to be uploaded.


So who's feeding the network now? The same staff that's always on
duty on weekends?

I don't know what our Network Control manager told his staff- and I'm
pretty sure radio programming will be something of a mess for a while.
Our programming people had their creativity amputated and cauterized
long ago.

Yes, one of the newspaper articles mentioned that they'd been told
not to produce any new shows for after May 20th.


I look after my own spheres of influence. I am operations manager of
KFTL-CD (Meaning that some days I manage to operate!). I am also the
default external Internet connectivity guy for FRHQ and look after the
mp3 stream encoders that function as STLs for direct-to-home satellite
uplinking in the U.K.

Family Radio has an uplink facility in the UK? What do they originate
from there?


There's a few other hats I wear from time to
time. It all sounds much more important that it really is.

:-)


Patty

* Patty Winter wrote, On 5/22/2011 10:16 AM:

I didn't notice any video links on the FR website, but maybe I missed
them. I'm still waiting for the May 19th Open Forum MP3 to be uploaded.


I'm always surprised anybody can find anything on that (F)ugly mess.
Don't get me started!


one of the newspaper articles mentioned that they'd been told
not to produce any new shows for after May 20th.


Not exactly. The problem was that no one said *what* to produce. And
it didn't matter to Camping and Co., since it was just "busy work" anyway.


mp3 stream encoders that function as STLs for direct-to-home satellite
uplinking in the U.K.

Family Radio has an uplink facility in the UK? What do they originate
from there?


We have had three full-time audio channels on direct-to-home satellite
for over ten years. One is our domestic stereo feed time-shifted for
Central European Time. The other two are multi-lingual mono streams on
the same satellites. These are currently uplinked for us by World
Radio Network (WRN), and we appear in the BSkyB EPG.

One of the multi-lingual streams is also directed to another uplink
site for specific program distribution to transmitters in various
places such as South Africa, India, Dubai, Wooferton, etc. If you go
to www.short-wave.info and select Family Radio from the drop-down
list, it will show you all of the shortwave transmitters we've been
on. Most of our shortwave programs are delivered to the uplink service
by ftp, however.

How much of this will continue, or for how long, I have no idea.

JT
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"John T" wrote


_Firsthand Account From Family Radio_

Thank you so much for a compelling eye-witness account. I hope that you
don't lose your job over this.

While I think Family Radio's programming is quite bogus for the most part, I
will say that they do try to do public affairs programming to relate to
their audience -- and who does pubaffairs anymore? I've heard them do
programs on diabetes, heart disease, keeping families together -- all
laudable things that hopefully help people.

* David Kaye wrote, On 5/21/2011 10:23 AM:
I've heard them do
programs on diabetes, heart disease, keeping families together -- all
laudable things that hopefully help people.



Some of the people in the trenches do try to be legitimate broadcasters.

JT
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David Kaye wrote:

While I think Family Radio's programming is quite bogus for the most part, I
will say that they do try to do public affairs programming to relate to
their audience -- and who does pubaffairs anymore? I've heard them do
programs on diabetes, heart disease, keeping families together -- all
laudable things that hopefully help people.

Back around 1980 or so, WYFR broadcasts in the 40M combined ham/shortwave
broadcast band had a substantial second harmonic that was falling into the
20M ham band. I wrote the station engineer a nice letter describing what
was happening, and I received back a QSL card and a letter asking for money.

Over the course of the next decade or so, I continued receiving begging
letters from Family radio on and off, and as the decade went on, the quality
of the letters improved from something printed on a misaligned chain printer
on newsprint, on up to personalized letters printed with a nice daisywheel
printer on good paper, on up to letters laser printed (and this was the age
before laser printers became quite so cheap) on linen rag.

So all I can think is that SOMEONE must have been sending them money. But
it wasn't me. And the second harmonic interference continued for some time,
though not anywhere near as long as the letters.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."