Jay in the Mojave wrote:
Hello A.E. 352:

What does the Aurors sound like????

Supposed to hit the upper USA tonight.

Jay in the Mojave

A.E. 352 wrote:

Hearing many close-in stations due to the CME or Aurora. I don't recall
the last time I've heard Aurora on 27.

A.E. 352



Hi Jay

It made stations sound warbled sorta like when someone has a low power
supply behind their transmitter.

Hello A.E 352 and Steveo:

Ok that sounds like multi pathing to me! That is two or more signals of
the same station arriving at the different times to the receiver.

In FM its really bad.

I once bought a FM Broadcast Band Directional Beam Antenna. I wanted to
hear a FM Station over the hills in Santa Monica. It was KNAC heavy Rock
n Roll Station, that no one could hear.

I installed a mast next to the side of the front of the house. And
pointed the beam towards Santa Monica to hear KNAC. I could hear several
stations on the same frequency and a lot of distortion. After turning
the beam away from the Santa Monica, and towards the mountains behind my
house KNAC came in loud and clear, and full quieting, even had the
"Stereo" Light come on. But station was a disappointment.

http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/wireless/multipath.html

But I did learn about multi path.

I wonder if the radio signals are bouncing off the Aurora and having
multipath?

I know I have heard local power stations have their signal bounce off a
local atmosphere, causing back scatter, and those signals wernt strong
enough to miltipath. I think.

Jay in the Mojave

Steveo wrote:

It made stations sound warbled sorta like when someone has a low power
supply behind their transmitter.

Jay in the Mojave wrote:
Hello A.E 352 and Steveo:

Ok that sounds like multi pathing to me! That is two or more signals of
the same station arriving at the different times to the receiver.

In FM its really bad.

I once bought a FM Broadcast Band Directional Beam Antenna. I wanted to
hear a FM Station over the hills in Santa Monica. It was KNAC heavy Rock
n Roll Station, that no one could hear.

I installed a mast next to the side of the front of the house. And
pointed the beam towards Santa Monica to hear KNAC. I could hear several
stations on the same frequency and a lot of distortion. After turning
the beam away from the Santa Monica, and towards the mountains behind my
house KNAC came in loud and clear, and full quieting, even had the
"Stereo" Light come on. But station was a disappointment.

http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/wireless/multipath.html

But I did learn about multi path.

I wonder if the radio signals are bouncing off the Aurora and having
multipath?

I know I have heard local power stations have their signal bounce off a
local atmosphere, causing back scatter, and those signals wernt strong
enough to miltipath. I think.

Jay in the Mojave

It could have very well been the multi path you are describing Jay, it does
make for some strange sounding audio for sure. Warble is the best way I can
describe it.

I just got done putting up my beam about a half hour ago and sat down for
some lunch, and of course the band is quiet over here for the time being.
Maybe we can stir 'em up later.


Steveo wrote:

It made stations sound warbled sorta like when someone has a low power
supply behind their transmitter.

Steveo wrote:
Hello Steveo:

Tell us how the beam goes. When ya get a chance.

Jay in the Mojave


It could have very well been the multi path you are describing Jay, it does
make for some strange sounding audio for sure. Warble is the best way I can
describe it.

I just got done putting up my beam about a half hour ago and sat down for
some lunch, and of course the band is quiet over here for the time being.
Maybe we can stir 'em up later.


Steveo wrote:


It made stations sound warbled sorta like when someone has a low power
supply behind their transmitter.

Jay in the Mojave wrote:
Steveo wrote:
Hello Steveo:

Tell us how the beam goes. When ya get a chance.

Jay in the Mojave

Hi again, Jay

It's been scary quiet over here so far but it's the same in my portable. I
did make a couple three local contacts tho, and tried both the horizontal
and vertical elements with good reports. The swr barely moves on either
too..so far so good.. I need a band opening to really try it out.

I'll leave you know via the airwaves if it's really working, Jay.

Hello Jay

Dunno if that's you in HRHG, but 6 meters was really wild, I guess, from
what I'm hearing.

You need SSB (or possibly CW) to work it. Too much flutter otherwise. Too
much multipath (and changing constantly at that) otherwise (for FM).

Why is it that there is more intelligent conversation and discussion of more
interesting modes in the cb group than the ham group?

Curious minds and that


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim


"Jay in the Mojave" wrote in message
...
Hello A.E 352 and Steveo:

Ok that sounds like multi pathing to me! That is two or more signals of
the same station arriving at the different times to the receiver.

In FM its really bad.

I once bought a FM Broadcast Band Directional Beam Antenna. I wanted to
hear a FM Station over the hills in Santa Monica. It was KNAC heavy Rock
n Roll Station, that no one could hear.

I installed a mast next to the side of the front of the house. And
pointed the beam towards Santa Monica to hear KNAC. I could hear several
stations on the same frequency and a lot of distortion. After turning
the beam away from the Santa Monica, and towards the mountains behind my
house KNAC came in loud and clear, and full quieting, even had the
"Stereo" Light come on. But station was a disappointment.

http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/wireless/multipath.html

But I did learn about multi path.

I wonder if the radio signals are bouncing off the Aurora and having
multipath?

I know I have heard local power stations have their signal bounce off a
local atmosphere, causing back scatter, and those signals wernt strong
enough to miltipath. I think.

Jay in the Mojave

Steveo wrote:

It made stations sound warbled sorta like when someone has a low power
supply behind their transmitter.

"Jim Hampton" wrote:
Why is it that there is more intelligent conversation and discussion of
more interesting modes in the cb group than the ham group?

Curious minds and that

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

Hello Jim

Most ham radio operators are ex-CBer's right?

Hello Jim:

HRHG? Don't know what this is??!?.

I have built Interceptor 10K Antenna (left over tubing scraps) to the 6
meter band. I am not on a lot but once in a while make a contact.

Usually above 50.125 USB, something like 50.150 to 50.200 USB.

Yeah I guess a lot of the guys here have stopped replying to the goof
balls here, as in other news groups. I read a few other news groups as
well as this one.

If we stop replying to the trolls they will go away, just like in school
when the trouble makers didn't get any attention, or got socked in the
eye they went away.

Speaking of odd conditions and such. I was once went fishing in Las
Vegas, Lake Mead area. One night after a great fish dinner, I hear one
of the local guys from the Local Mojave Desert talking skip. His signal
was strong enough to bounce off the atmosphere and back down into the
Las Vegas area. Kind of wild I thought, thinking this was a back scatter
signal. But me with a stock radio, and no microphone I could not reply.

I have also heard signals from places just a few hundred miles away,
they came in slowly strong, then slowly went away. What was that?

Jay in the Mojave

Its best to leave Cookies and Milk out Christmas Eve.

Jim Hampton wrote:

Hello Jay

Dunno if that's you in HRHG, but 6 meters was really wild, I guess, from
what I'm hearing.

You need SSB (or possibly CW) to work it. Too much flutter otherwise. Too
much multipath (and changing constantly at that) otherwise (for FM).

Why is it that there is more intelligent conversation and discussion of more
interesting modes in the cb group than the ham group?

Curious minds and that


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

"Jay in the Mojave" wrote in message
...
Hello Jim:

HRHG? Don't know what this is??!?.

I have built Interceptor 10K Antenna (left over tubing scraps) to the 6
meter band. I am not on a lot but once in a while make a contact.

Usually above 50.125 USB, something like 50.150 to 50.200 USB.

Yeah I guess a lot of the guys here have stopped replying to the goof
balls here, as in other news groups. I read a few other news groups as
well as this one.

If we stop replying to the trolls they will go away, just like in school
when the trouble makers didn't get any attention, or got socked in the eye
they went away.

Speaking of odd conditions and such. I was once went fishing in Las Vegas,
Lake Mead area. One night after a great fish dinner, I hear one of the
local guys from the Local Mojave Desert talking skip. His signal was
strong enough to bounce off the atmosphere and back down into the Las
Vegas area. Kind of wild I thought, thinking this was a back scatter
signal. But me with a stock radio, and no microphone I could not reply.

I have also heard signals from places just a few hundred miles away, they
came in slowly strong, then slowly went away. What was that?

Jay in the Mojave

Its best to leave Cookies and Milk out Christmas Eve.

Jim Hampton wrote:

Hello Jay

Dunno if that's you in HRHG, but 6 meters was really wild, I guess, from
what I'm hearing.

You need SSB (or possibly CW) to work it. Too much flutter otherwise.
Too
much multipath (and changing constantly at that) otherwise (for FM).

Why is it that there is more intelligent conversation and discussion of
more
interesting modes in the cb group than the ham group?

Curious minds and that


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

Did you guys forget we also had a meteor shower? Could that be the missing
link in all the weird contacts?

Hello UKW:

No It didn't happen during the recent meteor shower.

I have seen some of the real nut cakes in the SUV's all loaded down with
yagi beam antennas, trying to shoot some VHF & UHF DX off the rocket
launches from Vandanburg. Man these SUV's are loaded with radio
equipment, antennas, and I counted 7 external speakers. And many mic
cords hanging down. And they where all on and loud!. Gives me a headache.

Jay in the Mojave

Its best to leave out Coockies and Milk on Christmas Eve.






U-Know-Who wrote:


Did you guys forget we also had a meteor shower? Could that be the missing
link in all the weird contacts?