On 29 Apr 2007 06:11:49 -0700, Telspam Electronics
wrote in
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On Apr 28, 9:47 pm, james wrote:
Brian there is one thing you have said that is true. It is hard to
defend what you don't have. Like Rhett Butler said to Chariolete,
Frankly I don't give a dam what you really know and what you think you
know.


Just remember that your derogatory comments started this exchange...
I assure you that if you continue in the future, I will defend myself
here on this forum. Enough said.


LOL!!! Where's that schematic, Brian?

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:11:55 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

On 29 Apr 2007 06:11:49 -0700, Telspam Electronics
wrote in
s.com:

On Apr 28, 9:47 pm, james wrote:
Brian there is one thing you have said that is true. It is hard to
defend what you don't have. Like Rhett Butler said to Chariolete,
Frankly I don't give a dam what you really know and what you think you
know.


Just remember that your derogatory comments started this exchange...
I assure you that if you continue in the future, I will defend myself
here on this forum. Enough said.


LOL!!! Where's that schematic, Brian?


ROTFLMAO!!!

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:11:55 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

+++On 29 Apr 2007 06:11:49 -0700, Telspam Electronics
wrote in
oups.com:
+++
+++On Apr 28, 9:47 pm, james wrote:
+++ Brian there is one thing you have said that is true. It is hard to
+++ defend what you don't have. Like Rhett Butler said to Chariolete,
+++ Frankly I don't give a dam what you really know and what you think you
+++ know.
+++
+++
+++Just remember that your derogatory comments started this exchange...
+++I assure you that if you continue in the future, I will defend myself
+++here on this forum. Enough said.
+++
+++
+++LOL!!! Where's that schematic, Brian?
+++
+++
*************

Actually it would be interesting to see a schematic. Just looking at
the evaluation schematic and his photos on Ebay it is not just a copy
of the evaluation board. So he had to put some thought behind it. At
least give him credit for that. One thing is I am not going to pay
that price to see a schematic or reverse engineer it to see how it
works. Can do that from the specification.

The only thing that bothers me is this is based on an IC that has been
in production for at least 9 yrs. It cousin the SSM2165 has been
obsoleted by the SSM2167. From ADI webpage I wonder how long the
SSM2166 will remian in production? The 14 pin dip version is obsolete.
Also for the SSM2166 the status column puts a contact ADI. It should
be either not reccomended for new designs, obsolete or in production.
I wonder if AD is considering obsoleting the part?

james



james

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:15:49 GMT, james wrote
in :

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:11:55 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

+++On 29 Apr 2007 06:11:49 -0700, Telspam Electronics
wrote in
roups.com:
+++
+++On Apr 28, 9:47 pm, james wrote:
+++ Brian there is one thing you have said that is true. It is hard to
+++ defend what you don't have. Like Rhett Butler said to Chariolete,
+++ Frankly I don't give a dam what you really know and what you think you
+++ know.
+++
+++
+++Just remember that your derogatory comments started this exchange...
+++I assure you that if you continue in the future, I will defend myself
+++here on this forum. Enough said.
+++
+++
+++LOL!!! Where's that schematic, Brian?
+++
+++
*************

Actually it would be interesting to see a schematic. Just looking at
the evaluation schematic and his photos on Ebay it is not just a copy
of the evaluation board. So he had to put some thought behind it. At
least give him credit for that.


He hacked the design from a page I cited several years ago while
criticizing his earlier splatter-box. The only thought he had was how
he could get away with the theft of someone else's intellectual
property. His solution was to withhold the schematic. I guess he
didn't realize that his amp could be reverse-engineered... duh!!!


One thing is I am not going to pay
that price to see a schematic or reverse engineer it to see how it
works. Can do that from the specification.


Not for that price, for sure. But his latest hack? Yep! I'm going to
buy one and do a full -- and FAIR -- evaluation on my bench. I'm just
waiting for him to go into "full production".


The only thing that bothers me is this is based on an IC that has been
in production for at least 9 yrs. It cousin the SSM2165 has been
obsoleted by the SSM2167. From ADI webpage I wonder how long the
SSM2166 will remian in production?


I'm sure NTE will make replacements for ten times the original cost.


The 14 pin dip version is obsolete.
Also for the SSM2166 the status column puts a contact ADI. It should
be either not reccomended for new designs, obsolete or in production.
I wonder if AD is considering obsoleting the part?


Which is one reason why I avoid ASICs.

On Apr 29, 9:34 pm, Frank Gilliland
wrote:
One thing is I am not going to pay
that price to see a schematic or reverse engineer it to see how it
works. Can do that from the specification.

Frank, you keep reminding us what a fantastic engineer you are... I
really don't know why you couldn't just draw the schematic from the
picture I have at http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...evelopment.htm
You should be able to do that with your eyes closed... lol

www.telstar-electronics.com

On 30 Apr 2007 04:19:49 -0700, Telspam Electronics
wrote in
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On Apr 29, 9:34 pm, Frank Gilliland
wrote:
One thing is I am not going to pay
that price to see a schematic or reverse engineer it to see how it
works. Can do that from the specification.

Frank, you keep reminding us what a fantastic engineer you are...


Wrong. I keep reminding -you- how bad an engineer -you- are. For
example.....

You've been spamming this group for over ten years now. In ten years
you could have earned the bare-minumum AAS degree in electronics,
which would have taken 2-3 years, leaving 7+ years to get some
practical experience. Or you could have earned a bachelor's degree in
electrical engineering and had 5+ years experience in a good-paying
job. Even if you took the time to earn a Master's degree you could be
2+ years into a -very- lucrative career. It works, Brian. I've done it
myself. I'm finishing up my Master's this summer, and just a couple
months ago I got back on the horse and found another job as a BE that
pays 42K/yr, which is 13K more than I was making at the other station.

Yet YOU chose to spend your time and money on a scheme that has netted
you nothing but problems and failure. You still live in your mommy's
house and depend on public tax dollars to feed your fat face. You have
no significant assets, no job security, and no means to support
yourself let alone a family. If there is a girl somewhere on the
planet that would have you it is only because she has less confidence
and self-worth than you. You are in no better position now than you
were 10 years ago. Just older. What a waste.

Yes, I -am- a "fantastic engineer"..... by your standards.

On Apr 30, 3:00 pm, Frank Gilliland
wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 04:19:49 -0700, Telspam Electronics
wrote in
.com:

On Apr 29, 9:34 pm, Frank Gilliland
wrote:
One thing is I am not going to pay
that price to see a schematic or reverse engineer it to see how it
works. Can do that from the specification.

Frank, you keep reminding us what a fantastic engineer you are...

Wrong. I keep reminding -you- how bad an engineer -you- are. For
example.....

You've been spamming this group for over ten years now. In ten years
you could have earned the bare-minumum AAS degree in electronics,
which would have taken 2-3 years, leaving 7+ years to get some
practical experience. Or you could have earned a bachelor's degree in
electrical engineering and had 5+ years experience in a good-paying
job. Even if you took the time to earn a Master's degree you could be
2+ years into a -very- lucrative career. It works, Brian. I've done it
myself. I'm finishing up my Master's this summer, and just a couple
months ago I got back on the horse and found another job as a BE that
pays 42K/yr, which is 13K more than I was making at the other station.

Yet YOU chose to spend your time and money on a scheme that has netted
you nothing but problems and failure. You still live in your mommy's
house and depend on public tax dollars to feed your fat face. You have
no significant assets, no job security, and no means to support
yourself let alone a family. If there is a girl somewhere on the
planet that would have you it is only because she has less confidence
and self-worth than you. You are in no better position now than you
were 10 years ago. Just older. What a waste.

Yes, I -am- a "fantastic engineer"..... by your standards.


LOL... Frank... you'll never change.

www.telstar-electronics.com

On 30 Apr 2007 13:26:00 -0700, Telspam Electronics
wrote in
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On Apr 30, 3:00 pm, Frank Gilliland
wrote:
snip
Yes, I -am- a "fantastic engineer"..... by your standards.


LOL... Frank... you'll never change.


I have everything I want (except maybe for adequate representation in
Congress). I have no need or desire to change. You, OTOH..... "LOL"!!!

Where's that schematic, Brian?

Frank Gilliland wrote

-snip good life lesson for Brian

I'm finishing up my Master's this summer, and just a couple
months ago I got back on the horse and found another job as a BE that
pays 42K/yr, which is 13K more than I was making at the other station.

Masters, that should really help the bottom line. Good job OM!

From: (Frank*Gilliland)
On 30 Apr 2007 04:19:49 -0700, Telspam Electronics
wrote in
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I'm finishing up my Master's this summer, and

just a couple months ago I got back on the

horse and found another job as a BE that pays
42K/yr, which is 13K more than I was making

at the other station.

Congrats on the adult-ed!!! Freakin' tough as nails to do it later in
life. And with the price of everything skyrocketing, the extra chunk'a
change will come in handy.


So what's the plan for play? Doing anything interesting this summer?