This rig is in Prestine condition, with a cobra desk mic. I beleive it
has some sort of mods because it has a switch on the back, i tested it
and it works to a tee. Asking $300 and help with ship, thanks

Ps- serious enquirers email me for pics at

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:25:29 -0700 (PDT), Justin
wrote:

|This rig is in Prestine condition, with a cobra desk mic. I beleive it
|has some sort of mods because it has a switch on the back, i tested it
|and it works to a tee. Asking $300 and help with ship, thanks
|
|Ps- serious enquirers email me for pics at
|--------------

$300 dollars? There must be gold in those old radios. There can't be
more that $40 in parts for the whole radio.

james

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:07:43 -0700, Jay in the Mojave
wrote:

|james wrote:
| On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:25:29 -0700 (PDT), Justin
| wrote:
|
| |This rig is in Prestine condition, with a cobra desk mic. I beleive it
| |has some sort of mods because it has a switch on the back, i tested it
| |and it works to a tee. Asking $300 and help with ship, thanks
| |
| |Ps- serious enquirers email me for pics at
| |--------------
|
| $300 dollars? There must be gold in those old radios. There can't be
| more that $40 in parts for the whole radio.
|
| james
|
|No thats a good price for that radio. Bill Good (who passed away a few
|years ago) a really great Technician and really good friend loved to
|work on these radios. Bill had a contact within Uniden and Bill asked
|many times to have the radio reintroduced into the market. But the
|answer was it cost to much for production. I wounder what the
|manufacturing cost to selling cost was on those radios.
|--------------

The MSRP price is generally five to ten times that of the production
costs. My guess was the labor costs were creaping up. Most CB radios
of that era were hand assembled. The PCB was hand stuffed and wave
soldered probably. Into the 80's the CB craze had died off from the
peak in the early to mid 70's. As sales dropped the costs to
manufacture went higher. Some houses could have used automated
insertion of some parts. That would save on labor. The problem comes
when production falls, the cost adder for preforming parts for auto
insertion, probably outweighed the savings that autoinsertion gained.

|I have seen these radio sell for more on E-Bay.
|
|I know these radios had expensive modifications installed that helped
|the receiver with crystal and mechanical filters in the IF. And even a
|-10 and -20 dB attenuator. And Bill use to remove the stock rf front end
|and installed a duel gate mosfet front end that significantly increased
|the performance of the receiver. The stock front end had too much gain
|and was dirty. Causing way too much bleed over. I remember Bill removing
|modifications in the transmitter to return the output power level to the
|the stock settings as the audio sounded way better, and made it cleaner.
|
|I asked him once how he knew how the RF Output was dirty or clean, he
|replies that he looks at a spectrum analyzer. Well one day I go over to
|Bills place quit a drive for me and there is a no **** bingo new HP
|Spectrum Analyzer. He shows me a radio that had the golden screw driver
|in it, and removes the stupid modification parts, and does a alignment
|on the radio and then its clean. There was a significant decrease in
|spurs and trash going out.
|
|But as you bought the radio and had the expensive modifications
|installed you now had a radio that cost the same or even more than a
|amateur radio that was even a better radio.
|
|Bill Good you are missed!
|
|Jay in the Mojave
|-------------

Yep, so called techs that modify radios with only a watt meter have
know concept of what they are doing. Yes sir make a quick buck and
send the unsuspecting customer on his way still fat, dumb and happy.


I should also realize the collector value. It is that I was 23 yrs in
teh design and manufacturing of electronic equipment and know of part
costs and that tends to bias my thinking. It is hard for me at times
to buy electronics now when I consider that the parts that make up a
unit are so darn cheap these days when bought in very large
quantities.

james

Hello Jay bully for you, yeah the receive alone is worth the extra money.
Although the Cobra 2000 is a fine CB, it has good ears too. For $300 I'd
take a well used Kenwood TS-430.



Jay in the Mojave wrote:
I prefer a Yaesu, Kenwood, or Icom
radio to a hot roded CB radio.



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Jay in the Mojave wrote:
james wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:25:29 -0700 (PDT), Justin
wrote:

|This rig is in Prestine condition, with a cobra desk mic. I beleive it
|has some sort of mods because it has a switch on the back, i tested it
|and it works to a tee. Asking $300 and help with ship, thanks
|
|Ps- serious enquirers email me for pics at
|--------------

$300 dollars? There must be gold in those old radios. There can't be
more that $40 in parts for the whole radio.
james

No thats a good price for that radio. Bill Good (who passed away a few
years ago) a really great Technician and really good friend loved to
work on these radios. Bill had a contact within Uniden and Bill asked
many times to have the radio reintroduced into the market. But the
answer was it cost to much for production. I wounder what the
manufacturing cost to selling cost was on those radios.

I have seen these radio sell for more on E-Bay.

I know these radios had expensive modifications installed that helped
the receiver with crystal and mechanical filters in the IF. And even a
-10 and -20 dB attenuator. And Bill use to remove the stock rf front end
and installed a duel gate mosfet front end that significantly increased
the performance of the receiver. The stock front end had too much gain
and was dirty. Causing way too much bleed over. I remember Bill removing
modifications in the transmitter to return the output power level to the
the stock settings as the audio sounded way better, and made it cleaner.

I asked him once how he knew how the RF Output was dirty or clean, he
replies that he looks at a spectrum analyzer. Well one day I go over to
Bills place quit a drive for me and there is a no **** bingo new HP
Spectrum Analyzer. He shows me a radio that had the golden screw driver
in it, and removes the stupid modification parts, and does a alignment
on the radio and then its clean. There was a significant decrease in
spurs and trash going out.

But as you bought the radio and had the expensive modifications
installed you now had a radio that cost the same or even more than a
amateur radio that was even a better radio.

Bill Good you are missed!

Jay in the Mojave
Jay,
Is that the same Bill from Morgan Hills, CA?

On the subject of the 2000. Even with the design performance issues, not
that a stock radio was that bad, the 2000 was one of the best looking
rigs that came out of that time, as far as I'm concerned. The Cobra 2000
was just a good looking radio that did a decent job with transmit and
receive.

I have a couple of them that I wouldn't take $400 for.

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:20:37 -0700, Jay in the Mojave
wrote:

|I would think that there maybe a slight difference between the over seas
|and state side manufacture costs. I wounder what that really are with
|todays manufacturing with smt ect?!?!?
|----------------

What overseas manufacturing buys you often is tax shelters. What
foreign countries have done over the past forty years is offer tarrif
free zones just to get companies to establish manufacturing centers in
their country. In the 70's Malaysia offered US and Japanese companies
ten year tarrif free zones. So a company could go into that country
and manufacture using local labor and not have to pay tarrifs for
exportig piece parts of finished goods.

During the 90's that started to change. Instead many countries started
requiring local content in the manufacture of goods sold within thier
country. That has forced US as well as European and Japanese companies
to do piece part manufacturing, source local manufactured asemblies
or do final assembly in the destination counrty.

I remember sitting at a dinner with a VP of the company I used to work
for and he maid the comment that we were running out of "Stable" third
world countries to move manufacturing to. That comment was made in
1979!!!!!!!! After China and India, where do they go to? Not a lot
left in the world.

james

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:32:17 -0700, Jay in the Mojave
wrote:

|james wrote:
| On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:20:37 -0700, Jay in the Mojave
| wrote:
|
| |I would think that there maybe a slight difference between the over seas
| |and state side manufacture costs. I wounder what that really are with
| |todays manufacturing with smt ect?!?!?
| |----------------
|
| What overseas manufacturing buys you often is tax shelters. What
| foreign countries have done over the past forty years is offer tarrif
| free zones just to get companies to establish manufacturing centers in
| their country. In the 70's Malaysia offered US and Japanese companies
| ten year tarrif free zones. So a company could go into that country
| and manufacture using local labor and not have to pay tarrifs for
| exportig piece parts of finished goods.
|
| During the 90's that started to change. Instead many countries started
| requiring local content in the manufacture of goods sold within thier
| country. That has forced US as well as European and Japanese companies
| to do piece part manufacturing, source local manufactured asemblies
| or do final assembly in the destination counrty.
|
| I remember sitting at a dinner with a VP of the company I used to work
| for and he maid the comment that we were running out of "Stable" third
| world countries to move manufacturing to. That comment was made in
| 1979!!!!!!!! After China and India, where do they go to? Not a lot
| left in the world.
|
| james
|
|Hello james:
|
|Ok great points there!
|
|There must be some sort of cost relief to have major companies invest
|major dollars in over seas manufacturing. It blows me away why we just
|can't do this manufacturing work here in the USA. With the technologies
|of today we surly can make circuit boards and such here.
|-----------

Oh we can. There is also one other point to make. The cost of shipping
is now becoming a major uncontrolable cost item. When oil was a steady
price and not the constant fluxuation it currently experiences,
transprotation costs could easily be budgeted for and spread across
piece part costs as well as total cost. Today it is not wise to source
parts in one part of the world, ship them to the US and then ship them
back. For the China and Asia markets that would eat into profits.
Transportation costs are now as major a issue as labor.

|I have to travel once and while and have to use Delta Airlines, I talk
|to people in India to make traveling plans. Now that has to cost some
|big bucks to buy and install a major communications network all the way
|over to India to save on labor. I would love to know what that all cost
|and is saving.
|-------------

In business captal assets are amoritized over three years. You get to
write a good portion off your taxes to install capital equiptment to
do manufacturing or even IT. After three years that equiptment hs no
book value.


|I just bought a new expensive water cooler, as I putting on a new roof.
|This cooler cost almost $1400.00 the company Adbieo Air is making big
|money on this rally expensive sheet metal cooler. It is made in Mexico,
|I'll bet they had it made, assembled, and painted there. But they sure
|didn't pay no $1400.00 for it. Makes me think I am in the wrong business.
|---------------

Thanks to NAFTA. Trade across the boder with Mexico has little or no
tarrifs. I would not be at all surprised that the Mexican company is
not a subsidary of Japanese or US company. NAFTA allowed forgein
companies to setup shop in Mexico and ship across the border to avoid
traiffs from their home country.

james

This is Bill from Morgan Hill.
And Bill Good was very well thought of in the CB Tech Community.
He was an interesting fellow, and as MV says, it highly missed by those he
got along with.

I was just poking around the other day trying to figure out what a nice
2000GTL would sell for.
I have one in the used stuff I would like to part with.

There is a brand new, old stock on ebay selling for $355.00 and the reserve
isn't met.
I have had people tell me that they have paid over $500 for one like this.
Not sure why.
But it goes to show ya, that it is whatever the market will go to. This
would be a great
radio to re-introduce into the market. Problem is, so much of the parts are
in short supply/
Or totally NOT available. The PLL, the Counter Chip, the Finals, and on.

This is my first post on here in maybe 5 years. Hello to all those that were
customers
over the past. I'll try and look on here a couple times a week.

73's Bill


"Jay in the Mojave" wrote in message
...
Hello MV:

No Bill Good lived near Pinion Hills Ca, different Bill.

Yeah its a good radio the 2000. And yes you have a very good point there
it was pretty too look at.

How many times have we all walked into a radio shop/store and told the guy
there that don't try to BS us because we are Bitchen type of guys who
knows whats happening. Then brain disconnect happens, and say how much for
that pretty radio there............

Jay in the Mojave


MV wrote:

Jay,
Is that the same Bill from Morgan Hills, CA?

On the subject of the 2000. Even with the design performance issues, not
that a stock radio was that bad, the 2000 was one of the best looking
rigs that came out of that time, as far as I'm concerned. The Cobra 2000
was just a good looking radio that did a decent job with transmit and
receive.

I have a couple of them that I wouldn't take $400 for.

Hello Bill, do you have any beam antennas left for sale? (email me if you'd
prefer)

73
Steve



"Bill" wrote:
This is Bill from Morgan Hill.
And Bill Good was very well thought of in the CB Tech Community.
He was an interesting fellow, and as MV says, it highly missed by those
he got along with.

I was just poking around the other day trying to figure out what a nice
2000GTL would sell for.
I have one in the used stuff I would like to part with.

There is a brand new, old stock on ebay selling for $355.00 and the
reserve isn't met.
I have had people tell me that they have paid over $500 for one like
this. Not sure why.
But it goes to show ya, that it is whatever the market will go to. This
would be a great
radio to re-introduce into the market. Problem is, so much of the parts
are in short supply/
Or totally NOT available. The PLL, the Counter Chip, the Finals, and on.

This is my first post on here in maybe 5 years. Hello to all those that
were customers
over the past. I'll try and look on here a couple times a week.

73's Bill

"Jay in the Mojave" wrote in message
...
Hello MV:

No Bill Good lived near Pinion Hills Ca, different Bill.

Yeah its a good radio the 2000. And yes you have a very good point
there it was pretty too look at.

How many times have we all walked into a radio shop/store and told the
guy there that don't try to BS us because we are Bitchen type of guys
who knows whats happening. Then brain disconnect happens, and say how
much for that pretty radio there............

Jay in the Mojave


MV wrote:

Jay,
Is that the same Bill from Morgan Hills, CA?

On the subject of the 2000. Even with the design performance issues,
not that a stock radio was that bad, the 2000 was one of the best
looking rigs that came out of that time, as far as I'm concerned. The
Cobra 2000 was just a good looking radio that did a decent job with
transmit and receive.

I have a couple of them that I wouldn't take $400 for.


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Hello Steve.
I do not have a single antenna for base stations left.
I have three radial kits for the A99..
Go figure.

"Steve" wrote in message
...
Hello Bill, do you have any beam antennas left for sale? (email me if
you'd
prefer)

73
Steve



"Bill" wrote:
This is Bill from Morgan Hill.
And Bill Good was very well thought of in the CB Tech Community.
He was an interesting fellow, and as MV says, it highly missed by those
he got along with.

I was just poking around the other day trying to figure out what a nice
2000GTL would sell for.
I have one in the used stuff I would like to part with.

There is a brand new, old stock on ebay selling for $355.00 and the
reserve isn't met.
I have had people tell me that they have paid over $500 for one like
this. Not sure why.
But it goes to show ya, that it is whatever the market will go to. This
would be a great
radio to re-introduce into the market. Problem is, so much of the parts
are in short supply/
Or totally NOT available. The PLL, the Counter Chip, the Finals, and on.

This is my first post on here in maybe 5 years. Hello to all those that
were customers
over the past. I'll try and look on here a couple times a week.

73's Bill

"Jay in the Mojave" wrote in message
...
Hello MV:

No Bill Good lived near Pinion Hills Ca, different Bill.

Yeah its a good radio the 2000. And yes you have a very good point
there it was pretty too look at.

How many times have we all walked into a radio shop/store and told the
guy there that don't try to BS us because we are Bitchen type of guys
who knows whats happening. Then brain disconnect happens, and say how
much for that pretty radio there............

Jay in the Mojave


MV wrote:

Jay,
Is that the same Bill from Morgan Hills, CA?

On the subject of the 2000. Even with the design performance issues,
not that a stock radio was that bad, the 2000 was one of the best
looking rigs that came out of that time, as far as I'm concerned. The
Cobra 2000 was just a good looking radio that did a decent job with
transmit and receive.

I have a couple of them that I wouldn't take $400 for.


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