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The people you saw "walking around" were the ones stranded above the impact,
and had gotten as far down as the stairs would let them. The only reason you saw them at all, was they were slowly roasting and suffocating from the massive fires and hanging out the windows. Did you not see them jumping from a height of 70 stories or so ? As far as bombs in the sub-levels bringing it down, hogwash.. Did you also miss the TOPS of both buildings collapse onto the damage, and pile the rest into dust ? The building was designed to take a hit from aircraft such as a 707, but the thousands of gallons of diesel that burned were never really thought about, especially from larger, modern jets. If the building had just been lit on fire on its own, it most likely would never collapse. But when tons of debris strips fire retardant from the crossmembers, the steel got hot and sagged. I'm sorry you dont believe it, but its the truth. Seems like everyone out here wants your side of the real conspiracy. So do I.. "gw" wrote in message om... "GMpartsguy" wrote in message news:do%8b.338815$cF.101774@rwcrnsc53... Did you miss the fires that were burning in the building ? The planes weakened the structures AND stripped the fire retardent from the support members. After that, the fire softened the supports and sheared the bolts holding them. With nothing to tie the inner structure to the outer shell structure, down they fell. P.S. I gotta ask.............What is with the period abuse you always use in your sentences ? yes that is what we were all told.......but do you believe it.???? after all those buildings were built to withstand the impact of a jet airliner.....and also the heat you describe just did not happen......if you will notice in the films on the subject, the blast went through the building and out the other side.......in the films i have seen on the subject, people can be seen walking around in the areas, where the planes went through the buildings....i ask you,.......if it was so cotton picking hot in there how can anyone walk around in it........????? nope....this crap does not wash.......also i have to say.....that i think explosive charges were strapped to the main columns in the basement to bring them down......if you will also remember, some guys tried that before in 1991 or whenever and the only reason it didn't work was that the van they parked in the basement was parked next to the wrong support columns........ perios abuse.........i don't think so.........i got this writing style from old pinhead when he used to be on here, but he died in a drug deal gone bad along with some byu negro.......so i celebrate his memory by using a lot of dots doncha know............ |
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"GMpartsguy" wrote in message news:S069b.341800$cF.103481@rwcrnsc53...
The people you saw "walking around" were the ones stranded above the impact, and had gotten as far down as the stairs would let them. The only reason you saw them at all, was they were slowly roasting and suffocating from the massive fires and hanging out the windows. Did you not see them jumping from a height of 70 stories or so ? As far as bombs in the sub-levels bringing it down, hogwash.. Did you also miss the TOPS of both buildings collapse onto the damage, and pile the rest into dust ? The building was designed to take a hit from aircraft such as a 707, but the thousands of gallons of diesel that burned were never really thought about, especially from larger, modern jets. If the building had just been lit on fire on its own, it most likely would never collapse. But when tons of debris strips fire retardant from the crossmembers, the steel got hot and sagged. I'm sorry you dont believe it, but its the truth. Seems like everyone out here wants your side of the real conspiracy. So do I.. "gw" wrote in message om... "GMpartsguy" wrote in message news:do%8b.338815$cF.101774@rwcrnsc53... Did you miss the fires that were burning in the building ? The planes weakened the structures AND stripped the fire retardent from the support members. After that, the fire softened the supports and sheared the bolts holding them. With nothing to tie the inner structure to the outer shell structure, down they fell. P.S. I gotta ask.............What is with the period abuse you always use in your sentences ? yes that is what we were all told.......but do you believe it.???? after all those buildings were built to withstand the impact of a jet airliner.....and also the heat you describe just did not happen......if you will notice in the films on the subject, the blast went through the building and out the other side.......in the films i have seen on the subject, people can be seen walking around in the areas, where the planes went through the buildings....i ask you,.......if it was so cotton picking hot in there how can anyone walk around in it........????? nope....this crap does not wash.......also i have to say.....that i think explosive charges were strapped to the main columns in the basement to bring them down......if you will also remember, some guys tried that before in 1991 or whenever and the only reason it didn't work was that the van they parked in the basement was parked next to the wrong support columns........ perios abuse.........i don't think so.........i got this writing style from old pinhead when he used to be on here, but he died in a drug deal gone bad along with some byu negro.......so i celebrate his memory by using a lot of dots doncha know............ ok fine.......you don't believe that point then how about this........the guy that supposedly taught those idiots to 'fly' jets.........said they couldn't fly by the seat of their pants much less fly a jumbo jet into the side of a building..........you have to make intricate maneuvers that would be hard even for a experienced pilot..........it is like hitting a needle in a haystack.......and yet guys who had never actually flew a plane before somehow were able to make these planes fly into the side of a building......makes no sense to me............ again on point 1.......i reiterate......the blast from the planes went out the other side of the building and that includes most of the fuel associated with these planes..........all that was left was a smoldering ruins......i ask you.........tell me how hot was it in there.????? what we are talking about here is aluminum and titanium tubes full of jet fuel......on impact, naturally it disintegrated. and the force of the impact went out the other side of the buildings........review your tapes........ you have to understand......in order for 'them' to take your rights away, 'they' needed a catastrophic event to take place........and so it did.....and so they are or trying to do just this. it is plain and simple...the constitution has been trashed all for the price of rounding up 'terrorist' among us........make no mistake about it......this will come back to haunt the american people.....it is a travesty and a injustice....and anyone paying attention surely will be affected by this and troubled....they will not stop until most of your freedoms you hold dear now are forfeited because you let them do this..........for what you say??? for the new world order.........that is the case, no doubt about it....the writing is on the wall for all to see........ |
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Once in the air, almost anyone who has a basic knowledge of the controls and
a couple gauges, can fly. I worked for a charter company as a ramp rat for a few years, and got to grab the yoke of a King Air 100 and 200 during post-maintenance check flights. Even in a smaller twin turboprop, keeping a level flight isnt that hard. And by the way the planes hit the buildings with course corrections right before impact, just shows theres a little terrorist in all of us. And those who did the flying, had recently learned the basics too. The estimate was 1/3 of the fuel flashed on the outside, and the other 2/3 started the office materials burning. The impact plowed a lot of materials out the other side, just not hardly enough to keep the fires down. Estimates on the temps were around 1500 to 2000 degrees i believe. As far as the "why", everyone has their own opinion on that, and i wont waste anyones time on it. |
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gw wrote in message . .. ok fine.......you don't believe that point then how about this........the guy that supposedly taught those idiots to 'fly' jets.........said they couldn't fly by the seat of their pants much less fly a jumbo jet into the side of a building What guy? Name, flight school please. Give something to back up your statement. ...........you have to make intricate maneuvers that would be hard even for a experienced pilot Would you like to qualify that statement? ...........it is like hitting a needle in a haystack.......and yet guys who had never actually flew a plane before somehow were able to make these planes fly into the side of a building. They had flight training and had time in simulators. They knew to turn off the transponders, they new how to read headings. After a few hours in a simulator, it would be easy to get in the left seat and aim the plane for a building. ......makes no sense to me............ Why does that not suprise anyone? again on point 1.......i reiterate......the blast from the planes went out the other side of the building and that includes most of the fuel associated with these planes..........all that was left was a smoldering ruins......i ask you.........tell me how hot was it in there.????? what we are talking about here is aluminum and titanium tubes full of jet fuel......on impact, naturally it disintegrated. and the force of the impact went out the other side of the buildings........review your tapes........ And again, it was not the jet fuel that was the cause of the intense fire that burned so long, it was the flamable items in the building. you have to understand......in order for 'them' to take your rights away, 'they' needed a catastrophic event to take place........and so it did.....and so they are or trying to do just this. it is plain and simple...the constitution has been trashed all for the price of rounding up 'terrorist' among us........make no mistake about it......this will come back to haunt the american people.....it is a travesty and a injustice....and anyone paying attention surely will be affected by this and troubled....they will not stop until most of your freedoms you hold dear now are forfeited because you let them do this..........for what you say??? for the new world order.........that is the case, no doubt about it....the writing is on the wall for all to see........ Again I ask, to you have to work at being a moron? |
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