JEP wrote:


2) Can't separate QST from membership

Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.

Not in the Mid-Michigan area.....can't find any radio related magazine
anymore! (except for something like Popular Electronics)

Heard some vicious rumor about the anti-radio relay league pulling magazines
from "shelf sales" recently but I cannot confirm this.


Ryan KC8PMX
--
"The Pope has issued a proclamation on Michael Jackson. If he hears any
more allegations about little boys, the Pope says he'll have no choice but
to make him a priest."


"JJ" wrote in message
...
JEP wrote:


2) Can't separate QST from membership

Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.

In article ,
says...
Not in the Mid-Michigan area.....can't find any radio related magazine
anymore! (except for something like Popular Electronics)

Heard some vicious rumor about the anti-radio relay league pulling magazines
from "shelf sales" recently but I cannot confirm this.


Ryan KC8PMX
--
"The Pope has issued a proclamation on Michael Jackson. If he hears any
more allegations about little boys, the Pope says he'll have no choice but
to make him a priest."


"JJ" wrote in message
...
JEP wrote:


2) Can't separate QST from membership

Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.





Popular Communications (Never met a radio they didn't like)
CQ
QST
Monitoring Times

These should be easily found at any decent newstand. Don't you have any
bookstores there??

Borders?
BDalton?

BDK

Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.





Popular Communications (Never met a radio they didn't like)
CQ
QST
Monitoring Times

These should be easily found at any decent newstand. Don't you have any
bookstores there??

Borders?
BDalton?

BDK

Better check your local book seller your self. Barnes & Noble and
Books a Million around here and no QST.
NO QST anywhere.
CQ always did suck.
Pop Comm--ditto--SUCKS.
Monitoring Times is kinda OK.
73 & Ham Radio are gone.
Guess Mother Earth News it is ;-(

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 4:25:03 -0600, JEP wrote
(in message ) :

Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.





Popular Communications (Never met a radio they didn't like)
CQ
QST
Monitoring Times

These should be easily found at any decent newstand. Don't you have any
bookstores there??

Borders?
BDalton?

BDK

Better check your local book seller your self. Barnes & Noble and
Books a Million around here and no QST.
NO QST anywhere.
CQ always did suck.
Pop Comm--ditto--SUCKS.
Monitoring Times is kinda OK.
73 & Ham Radio are gone.
Guess Mother Earth News it is ;-(


If I were interested in ham radio, I'd have a ham radio license.

But I'm a SWL and so I could care less about QST, CQ, 73 and Ham Radio. It's
"interesting" to see so many x-posts to r.r.s about ham radio.

About 45 years ago I used ta listen to hams and decided that I didn't want to
be one nor continue listening to them. Most of my closest friends are hams
but they've given up on "converting" me (even when I help them with tech
"stuff").

The great majority of hams are nice people and they sure do justify more than
their hobby when there's an emergency. But why they think that SWLer's are
interested in /their/ hobby still puzzles me.

There are times when there are mutual interests. When a ham goes feral and
starts broadcasting as a pirate and a felon, this can connect both hobbies
and such as that makes me not want to just automatically killfool all the ham
newsgroups.

But look at this SUBJ: "Why you don't like the ARRL".

And - of the four newsgroups - two are for SWLers and CBers.

May I ask for as little more care when deciding to what many newsgroups one
posts to?


Thanks,



Gray Shockley
-----------------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio w/RS Loop
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
-----------------------
Vicksburg, MS US

"Gray Shockley" wrote:

And - of the four newsgroups - two are
for SWLers and CBers.

May I ask for as little more care when
deciding to what many newsgroups one
posts to?


Sadly, we don't always have much control over where messages are
cross-posted, Gray. Since some Hams are CB'ers and others SWL's, the
discussion itself may have actually started in one of those non-ham
newsgroups. In other cases, it is trolls (in any one of the newsgroups)
trying to belittle Ham radio and it's operators (posted to a number of
newsgroups in an effort to get the widest possible audience for that). In
still other cases, the discussion started in a ham radio newsgroup, with
other newsgroups added by participants who mainly frequent those other
newsgroups. Whatever the case, you're certainly not alone - we get our share
of messages relating to other topics posted in the Ham radio newsgroups as
well.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

In article , gray-
says...
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 4:25:03 -0600, JEP wrote
(in message ) :

Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.





Popular Communications (Never met a radio they didn't like)
CQ
QST
Monitoring Times

These should be easily found at any decent newstand. Don't you have any
bookstores there??

Borders?
BDalton?

BDK

Better check your local book seller your self. Barnes & Noble and
Books a Million around here and no QST.
NO QST anywhere.
CQ always did suck.
Pop Comm--ditto--SUCKS.
Monitoring Times is kinda OK.
73 & Ham Radio are gone.
Guess Mother Earth News it is ;-(


If I were interested in ham radio, I'd have a ham radio license.

But I'm a SWL and so I could care less about QST, CQ, 73 and Ham Radio. It's
"interesting" to see so many x-posts to r.r.s about ham radio.

About 45 years ago I used ta listen to hams and decided that I didn't want to
be one nor continue listening to them. Most of my closest friends are hams
but they've given up on "converting" me (even when I help them with tech
"stuff").

The great majority of hams are nice people and they sure do justify more than
their hobby when there's an emergency. But why they think that SWLer's are
interested in /their/ hobby still puzzles me.

There are times when there are mutual interests. When a ham goes feral and
starts broadcasting as a pirate and a felon, this can connect both hobbies
and such as that makes me not want to just automatically killfool all the ham
newsgroups.

But look at this SUBJ: "Why you don't like the ARRL".

And - of the four newsgroups - two are for SWLers and CBers.

May I ask for as little more care when deciding to what many newsgroups one
posts to?


Thanks,



Gray Shockley
-----------------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio w/RS Loop
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
-----------------------
Vicksburg, MS US




Well, since almost all HF transceivers are also good to great general
coverage receivers, there is a link in equipment. Besides QST does
antenna articles, and receiver reviews too! You are right about
listening to hams though, it's about as boring as it gets, unless
there's someone going off their rocker, or like on 3.950LSB when the
liberty net and those "volks" get jammed. It's always fun.

BDK

You may not be aware but HAMS operate on SHORTWAVE, so do CB
operators. Doesn't matter HF, VHF, UHF. Still shortwave.


Gray Shockley wrote in message s.com...
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 4:25:03 -0600, JEP wrote
(in message ) :

Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.





Popular Communications (Never met a radio they didn't like)
CQ
QST
Monitoring Times

These should be easily found at any decent newstand. Don't you have any
bookstores there??

Borders?
BDalton?

BDK

Better check your local book seller your self. Barnes & Noble and
Books a Million around here and no QST.
NO QST anywhere.
CQ always did suck.
Pop Comm--ditto--SUCKS.
Monitoring Times is kinda OK.
73 & Ham Radio are gone.
Guess Mother Earth News it is ;-(


If I were interested in ham radio, I'd have a ham radio license.

But I'm a SWL and so I could care less about QST, CQ, 73 and Ham Radio. It's
"interesting" to see so many x-posts to r.r.s about ham radio.

About 45 years ago I used ta listen to hams and decided that I didn't want to
be one nor continue listening to them. Most of my closest friends are hams
but they've given up on "converting" me (even when I help them with tech
"stuff").

The great majority of hams are nice people and they sure do justify more than
their hobby when there's an emergency. But why they think that SWLer's are
interested in /their/ hobby still puzzles me.

There are times when there are mutual interests. When a ham goes feral and
starts broadcasting as a pirate and a felon, this can connect both hobbies
and such as that makes me not want to just automatically killfool all the ham
newsgroups.

But look at this SUBJ: "Why you don't like the ARRL".

And - of the four newsgroups - two are for SWLers and CBers.

May I ask for as little more care when deciding to what many newsgroups one
posts to?


Thanks,



Gray Shockley
-----------------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio w/RS Loop
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
-----------------------
Vicksburg, MS US

Gray Shockley wrote:

The great majority of hams are nice people and they sure do justify more than
their hobby when there's an emergency. But why they think that SWLer's are
interested in /their/ hobby still puzzles me.

And then he includes this.

Gray Shockley
-----------------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio w/RS Loop
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
-----------------------
Vicksburg, MS US

Why you think hams are interested in what radios and antennas you use to
SWL with is beyond me.

JJ,

"Why you think hams are interested in what radios
and antennas you use to SWL with is beyond me."

Since this was Cross Posted to several NewsGroups:

* rec.radio.amateur.policy, [ Amateur - HAM ]

* rec.radio.amateur.misc, [ Amateur - HAM ]

* rec.radio.shortwave, [ S H O R T W A V E ]

* rec.radio.cb [ C B ]

The Devil Is In The Details...
So "GS" is simply communicating his 'status' as a SWL.

The Question Every Amateur Must Ask Themselves is . . .
Is Any Body ? ? ? L I S T E N I N G ? ? ?

YES - But they may be a lowly SWL and You will Never Know;
Unless the SWL sends the HAM a QCL Request and the HAM Replys in Kind.
? How many Amateurs Actively Seek QCL Reports form SWLs ?
? How many Amateurs 'send out' "QCL Cards" to the SWLs ?

Exus Laxus Good Buddy ~ RHF
Breaking-On-the-Low-Side - Can I Get a Radio Check ? QC? QC? BS!
..
..
= = = JJ
= = = wrote in message ...
Gray Shockley wrote:

The great majority of hams are nice people and they sure do justify more than
their hobby when there's an emergency. But why they think that SWLer's are
interested in /their/ hobby still puzzles me.

And then he includes this.

Gray Shockley
-----------------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio w/RS Loop
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
-----------------------
Vicksburg, MS US

Why you think hams are interested in what radios
and antennas you use to SWL with is beyond me.