HAMBOguy:

First of all, FORD stands for "Fix OR Repair DAILY," as Stevo can
attest to ! Second of all, I can't believe ALL the UN-American MORONS
out here who can make up "Racism," and what ever else their babbling
pea brains will spew, all just because I brought up a worthy CB news
item. Maybe they are members of the commy party. By the way,
McCarthy was vindicated by papers found in Moscow that verified ALL
the ones he accused of being commies in da US Govt. WERE COMMIES !
McCarthy was RIGHT---you is wrong---LEFT wrong !
Only Jim Hampton and the older people out here can teach you young
WHIPPER SNAPPERS anything, IF you are willing to learn!
China threatened LA===didn't that bother you? Or is yo on DRUGS ? !
Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 01:58:48 GMT, "Hamguy" wrote:

And just how many RED CHINESE components are in that computer you're using
Dave? Oh and BTW...the Ford Motor Company is investing one-BILLION dollars
to build an assembly plant in China this year. Your next 'American' car just
might really be Chinese!


"Dave or Debby" wrote in message
.. .
Yep, some REAL BAD NEWS on your CB newsgroup to report. Uniden has
NOW made their Classic great CB radios, the PC-68 & 78, which use to
be the 66 & 76, which use to be Cobra 29 & 25's before 1992-'94, made
IN the Phillipines, NOW they are made in RED COMMUNIST PUTRED CHINA !

I've been in a couple lately, and the quality is DEFINATELY less than
Phillipines, but still better than Cobra's quality.

We're talking about quality in CB's that were good since the 70's, now
taking a BIG NOSEDIVE toward TRASH status.

E mail Uniden and tell them that you are VERY UNHAPPY about their
descision to support OUR enemies (CHINA, N. Korea, and other GODless
states). It is probably a miracle that they lasted in the Phillipines
almost 10 years before Cobra quit making them there !

This is truly a SAD day in the CB world, where all these companies are
being "forced" by governmental policies to make their radios in RED
COMMUNIST CHINA. I bought as many as the OLD ones as I could get my
hands on, to sell in the future. I suggest all GOOD CB shops do the
same.

Now we have Deut. 28 CB's. 2 Chron. 7: 14 IS the answer!
I'm back on ! Ain't NO doubt ! 4-10 !

Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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"Dave or Debby" wrote in message
...
HAMBOguy:

(snip)

You still didn't specify what EXACTLY makes these radios substandard to the
previous ones.

the new 78 units have a receiver with less sens, .. put it on your service
monitor and see for yourself, compares to the 29, which STINKS ,compared to
the former uniden units...

"

The 68 Uniden plain model isn't worth the money. I have a 19 ultra II cobra
that's very good, I've had it for 5 or so years now. The Uniden I have
sucks.
"carl wesser" wrote in message
...
the new 78 units have a receiver with less sens, .. put it on your
service
monitor and see for yourself, compares to the 29, which STINKS ,compared
to
the former uniden units...

"

Just LOOK inside one and one from the Phillipines and you will SEE the
quality difference in HOW they were made. When they are made with
less quality, they have MORE problems in the future (future
breakdowns, and MORE current breakdowns. When you are in a communist
system, everyone supposedly makes THE SAME $$$ (NO insentive to work
harder to do a better job for rewards (Biblical concept). This makes
EVERYTHING the commies touch JUNK and a LOT LESS quality than items
made in "freeer" countries. DON'T you own any CB's ? You got
qustions? I GOT answers ! I'm a CB shop for almost 25 years now! I
have SEEN the quality drop every time a factory has moved !
Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:06:42 -0500, "Andy 2LD751" 2LD751 at COMCAST
DOT NET wrote:

"Dave or Debby" wrote in message
.. .
HAMBOguy:

(snip)

You still didn't specify what EXACTLY makes these radios substandard to the
previous ones.




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"Dave or Debby" wrote in message
...
Just LOOK inside one and one from the Phillipines and you will SEE the
quality difference in HOW they were made. When they are made with

Ok, but that still doesn't specify exactly what is of lesser quality. What
SPECIFICALLY makes these new radios of lesser quality?

"Andy 2LD751" 2LD751 at COMCAST DOT NET wrote in message
...
"Dave or Debby" wrote in message
...
Just LOOK inside one and one from the Phillipines and you will SEE the
quality difference in HOW they were made. When they are made with

Ok, but that still doesn't specify exactly what is of lesser quality. What
SPECIFICALLY makes these new radios of lesser quality?



In the past, he/she stated it was SMD's.

That and the fact he is trying to compare the way CB's were built 25 years
ago just shows he is skirting the issue.
Pioneer, Clarion, Alpine, Sony, Delphi, Audiovox, Visteon, and the other
manufacturer products i repair are made and/or assembled with products that
are made in countries such as the Philipines, China, Brazil, Mexico,
Pertugal, etc. Most of the repairs i perform are either electrical component
failures (transistors, microprocessors, diodes, caps, etc), or mechanical
failures due to under-engineered product, customer abuse, or electronic
failure causing a mech to kill itself or just die.
In a very few cases, there is an actual manufacturing defect. Almost always
a component that didnt get soldered fully, or a piece of a mechanical device
that was manufactured (stamped, molded, etc) wrong, and didnt get culled out
of a lot before assembly.
And in other cases, rough handling during shipment account for a small
percentage of failures.
So, blame engineers, inspectors, shippers, and assembly lines for your
problems Dave and/or Debbie. In the real world of mobile
audio/visual/navigation equipment, which is far more complicated than a
walkie-talkie, there is no single blame to point out. Everyone everywhere is
a **** up. Face it, and get on with life. Everyone out here know about how
much you hate the Chinese and then try and spread the word of god on top of
it. Blasphemy, paranoia, xenophobia, and racism Dave. The big invisible
elephant in your livingroom. Just like alcoholism.
There is your explanation Andy, from someone who actually needed some
specialized education and training to perform his tasks. Too bad the truth
had to be told by someone who started down this this road only 8 years ago
from a CB hobby, instead of Doper Dave and his 25 years worth.

On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 16:53:13 GMT, "GMpartsguy"
wrote:

That and the fact he is trying to compare the way CB's were built 25 years
ago just shows he is skirting the issue.

Your SKIRT wearing is "skirting" the issue! They were made in THE
PHILLIPINES just up to this year, NOT 25 years ago! Phillipines made
QUALITY, something you know NOTHING about!

Pioneer, Clarion, Alpine, Sony, Delphi, Audiovox, Visteon, and the other
manufacturer products i repair are made and/or assembled with products that
are made in countries such as the Philipines, China, Brazil, Mexico,
Pertugal, etc. Most of the repairs i perform are either electrical component
failures (transistors, microprocessors, diodes, caps, etc), or mechanical
failures due to under-engineered product, customer abuse, or electronic
failure causing a mech to kill itself or just die.
In a very few cases, there is an actual manufacturing defect. Almost always
a component that didnt get soldered fully,

This IS showing poor manufacturing, which CHINA does poorly!

or a piece of a mechanical device
that was manufactured (stamped, molded, etc) wrong, and didnt get culled out
of a lot before assembly.
And in other cases, rough handling during shipment account for a small
percentage of failures.
So, blame engineers, inspectors, shippers, and assembly lines for your
problems Dave and/or Debbie.


No, WE blame govt. policys that have FORCED our industry go go
OUTSOURCE. By the way, you car radio fixers are going outsource soon!


In the real world of mobile
audio/visual/navigation equipment, which is far more complicated than a
walkie-talkie, there is no single blame to point out.

That's because you are ASLEEP. I'm talking CB's, NOT
walki-talkies. You fix car radios. I fix CB's AND car radios. I IS
da man; you are da chinese sympathizer!

Everyone everywhere is


NO they are NOT--just because YOU ARE does not make US good techs
out here what you think, which is a LIE !

a **** up. Face it, and get on with life. Everyone out here know about how
much you hate the Chinese and then try and spread the word of god on top of
it. Blasphemy, paranoia, xenophobia, and racism Dave.

What kind of drugs are you on? IF I hated the Chinese, then WHY
did I eat at a Chinese restaurant last PM ? GET OFF you low tech
DRUGS !

The big invisible
elephant in your livingroom. Just like alcoholism.
There is your explanation Andy, from someone who actually needed some
specialized education and training to perform his tasks. Too bad the truth
had to be told by someone who started down this this road only 8 years ago
from a CB hobby, instead of Doper Dave and his 25 years worth.

YOU IS the DOPER, POT HEAD ! 8 years and you know more about CB's
than us who have been in it 25+ years or more! How arrogant can you
be? ! SAY NO to DRUGS !
Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!





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You still havent answered Andy's question of what specifically makes Chinese
manufactured products a lesser quality product.
If you dont know, just say so. Ignorance is simply not knowing. Nothing
wrong there.

"This IS showing poor manufacturing, which CHINA does poorly!", says Dave.
O.K.... Lets assume for a moment that your opinion is fact. China
manufactures poorly. Are you speaking of the automated process ? In that
case, you must know where these assembly line products were manufactured.
What if the optic sensor for that particular phase of the soldering process
was having a bad day ? That sensor may have been made in Italy, or Brazil,
or Canada. Maybe even the US. Who do you blame now ?
You painted yourself into a corner long ago with this tired old story of
China this and China that. Let it go, babe. Let it go.
A couple final bits of news in case you havent been in a new vehicle
lately. Car "radios" now play MP3's, DVD's, and have this ability to use
what we in the normal sector call "navigation through global positioning
satelites". They are just a wee bit more intensive to diag and repair than
the radios you constantly whine about. Sorry it bothers you that i didnt sit
content dicking with simple equipment. That and GM farming a lot of the
parts on their new Equinox SUV. China gets to build at least the engine, and
i forget who gets to build the tranny. Mayhap this news will drive your
blood pressure up enough to trigger a fatal heart attack. Would be ironic to
die becaused you were so cheesed off at 'em.
Remember...Answer Andy's question and i'll back off Davy. As much as you
want to spew at me, you need to prove yourself a man and finish what you
started with him...