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Old August 15th 04, 04:53 PM
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 00:47:23 GMT, "Data Flux" -spam wrote:

If you looked at the spectral output of a 2970, you wouldn't be so
quick to want another one.

You are MUCH better off looking for a used HF ham rig for that $500,
and you'll be far happier, than using a hacked up CB design.


Isn't that what I just asked for? Another HF ham rig? The RCI-2970
was technically sold as a ham radio. I'm trying to find another 10
meter ham rig, with the aforementioned features, that can be modified
easily to cover at least 26.0-29.6999 TX/RX.


No, what you asked for is another out of band modifiable radio that is a
thinly disguised CB radio marketed to CBers as an "amateur" radio. You want
something like Copper sells, not the kinds of radios that AES, HRO, or any of
the other amateur radio dealers sell. The difference in quality is a dead give
away too. The RCI29XX radios have managed an uncomfortable crossover, but are
still considered extended range CB radios by any serious radio enthusiast.

As an aside, a lot of radios are labeled as "amateur" radios because
they are sold as (wink, wink) 10 meter radios. Hams wouldn't and don't buy these
radios, CBers do, and modify them (hell, most retailers sell an option to have
the radio modified for you by them) for extended operation. Most so called 10
meter radios are sold as AM/FM only when you'd be hard pressed to find a ham
today that would use AM. Where is the popular CW mode that no respectful amateur
radio would be without? That and these are "channeled" radios and not equipped
with VFO tuning. 10KHz stepping is just ludicrous when trying to use SSB. 10 KHz
steps severely limit the usefulness of the radio when you can not talk to
someone using a VFO. FM is such a spectrum hog, that it is only used in the
uppermost portion of the 10 meter band, and usually for repeater use. SSB,
specifically USB, is the mode of choice on 10 meters. And finally, you would be
hard pressed to find a ham dealer that sells these radios. You find them at
places like Copper that sell exclusively to CBers who are entrenched in their
inefficient, archaic AM mode, when clearly, SSB is a far superior mode that
delivers the most bang for the buck, and the greatest range.

Steve

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Old August 16th 04, 12:03 AM
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Steve wrote in message . ..
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 00:47:23 GMT, "Data Flux" -spam wrote:

If you looked at the spectral output of a 2970, you wouldn't be so
quick to want another one.

You are MUCH better off looking for a used HF ham rig for that $500,
and you'll be far happier, than using a hacked up CB design.


Isn't that what I just asked for? Another HF ham rig? The RCI-2970
was technically sold as a ham radio. I'm trying to find another 10
meter ham rig, with the aforementioned features, that can be modified
easily to cover at least 26.0-29.6999 TX/RX.


No, what you asked for is another out of band modifiable radio that is a
thinly disguised CB radio marketed to CBers as an "amateur" radio. You want
something like Copper sells, not the kinds of radios that AES, HRO, or any of
the other amateur radio dealers sell. The difference in quality is a dead give
away too. The RCI29XX radios have managed an uncomfortable crossover, but are
still considered extended range CB radios by any serious radio enthusiast.

As an aside, a lot of radios are labeled as "amateur" radios because
they are sold as (wink, wink) 10 meter radios. Hams wouldn't and don't buy these
radios, CBers do, and modify them (hell, most retailers sell an option to have
the radio modified for you by them) for extended operation. Most so called 10
meter radios are sold as AM/FM only when you'd be hard pressed to find a ham
today that would use AM. Where is the popular CW mode that no respectful amateur
radio would be without? That and these are "channeled" radios and not equipped
with VFO tuning. 10KHz stepping is just ludicrous when trying to use SSB. 10 KHz
steps severely limit the usefulness of the radio when you can not talk to
someone using a VFO. FM is such a spectrum hog, that it is only used in the
uppermost portion of the 10 meter band, and usually for repeater use. SSB,
specifically USB, is the mode of choice on 10 meters. And finally, you would be
hard pressed to find a ham dealer that sells these radios. You find them at
places like Copper that sell exclusively to CBers who are entrenched in their
inefficient, archaic AM mode, when clearly, SSB is a far superior mode that
delivers the most bang for the buck, and the greatest range.

Steve


lol be prepared steve they are going to attack you and call you gay
for telling the truth
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Old August 16th 04, 02:30 AM
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"I Am Not George" wrote in message
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lol be prepared steve they are going to attack you and call you gay
for telling the truth


Why would 'they' attack him for speaking the truth?

-Dr.X (wondering who 'they' are)


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Old August 16th 04, 03:02 AM
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Dr.X wrote:
lol be prepared steve they are going to attack you and call you gay
for telling the truth



Why would 'they' attack him for speaking the truth?

-Dr.X (wondering who 'they' are)



wait til Twisty comes back he will go on the rampage to defend cbers
using 10 meter radios

that is unless he got his nuts blown off by the huricaine
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Old August 16th 04, 06:38 PM
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On 16 Aug 2004 13:30:18 GMT, Steveo wrote:

I use an HR2510 on CB in my truck, big deal.


I use an HR2600 on CB in my truck. I love it!

Braggart!


I'm using an Icom IC-706MKII and a 102" steel whip in my car. It works
great. It's a bit of an overkill, but it does everything I want, and it's built
like a ....... Beats the crap out of everything else I've owned. I'm not
bragging - really. I just got tired of the problems and limitations of my
previous converted radios and got serious. There are lots of them available used
and cheap. I've seen them as low as $300 used and for less than $800 new. You
have to exercise restraint though. Transmit on the ham bands any they will come
looking for you. Fake calls signs don't work as 99% (well, it's most likely
less, but you get the idea) of the hams check online to see if it's legit. It's
not the FCC you have to worry about most of the time. Stay off the ham bands and
they pretty much leave you alone.

Steve
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Old August 16th 04, 06:45 PM
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Steve wrote:
On 16 Aug 2004 13:30:18 GMT, Steveo
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I use an HR2510 on CB in my truck, big deal.

I use an HR2600 on CB in my truck. I love it!

Braggart!


I'm using an Icom IC-706MKII and a 102" steel whip in my car. It
works great. It's a bit of an overkill, but it does everything I want,
and it's built like a ....... Beats the crap out of everything else I've
owned. I'm not bragging - really. I just got tired of the problems and
limitations of my previous converted radios and got serious. There are
lots of them available used and cheap. I've seen them as low as $300 used
and for less than $800 new. You have to exercise restraint though.
Transmit on the ham bands any they will come looking for you. Fake calls
signs don't work as 99% (well, it's most likely less, but you get the
idea) of the hams check online to see if it's legit. It's not the FCC you
have to worry about most of the time. Stay off the ham bands and they
pretty much leave you alone.

Steve

A real good point, Steve. Stay the hell out of the 10 meter band. I
use an old S-Line Collins in the house, SSB only..sweet audio.

I have a 102" whip also, but I hate the tree pruning it does so
I put a Wilson 1000 right in the middle of the roof of my truck.

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Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change ready.


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