As long as folks like Oxendine continue to accept this as enforcement,
nothing will change. Corporations get popped and pay fines all the time.
It's accepted and often standard business practice in the USA and a
specialty of the right wing. The fine is listed as an expense at tax
time. The large corporations continue to do business as usual while the
feds pacify insignificants with smoke and mirrors (fines). Meanwhile,
the Oxendines of the land are easily fooled. Armed with a false sense
of superiority, Oxendine, in all actuality, is saying,
"Thank-you-sir-my-I-have-another?", when he is unable to grasp exactly
what it is he just received. Cut him some slack. He's in a learning
process.

"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
The large corporations continue to do business as usual while the
feds pacify insignificants with smoke and mirrors (fines).

Except when the "go to jail" part of the penalty comes up for repeated
violations. Also don't overlook that some of those Pilot Travel centers may
be wholly own franchises where the owner has to pay the fine if they get
busted. The real fine is having to go to court to fight the FCC, and that
sounds like what may happen. When it does it could cost them much more than
the $125K fine depending on how far they want to take the fight up the legal
ladder. This would be the case to watch.
--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

Wireless Network
Mobile computing
on the go brought
to you by Micro$oft

Meanwhile,
the Oxendines of the land are easily fooled. Armed with a false sense
of superiority, Oxendine, in all actuality, is saying,
"Thank-you-sir-my-I-have-another?", when he is unable to grasp exactly
what it is he just received. Cut him some slack. He's in a learning
process.

"Leland C. Scott" wrote:
"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
The large corporations continue to do business as usual while the
feds pacify insignificants with smoke and mirrors (fines).

Except when the "go to jail" part of the penalty comes up for repeated
violations. Also don't overlook that some of those Pilot Travel centers
may be wholly own franchises where the owner has to pay the fine if they
get busted. The real fine is having to go to court to fight the FCC, and
that sounds like what may happen. When it does it could cost them much
more than the $125K fine depending on how far they want to take the fight
up the legal ladder. This would be the case to watch.

I think you can bankrupt on that one.

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
| "Leland C. Scott" wrote:
| "Twistedhed" wrote in message
| ...
| The large corporations continue to do business as usual while the
| feds pacify insignificants with smoke and mirrors (fines).
|
| Except when the "go to jail" part of the penalty comes up for repeated
| violations. Also don't overlook that some of those Pilot Travel centers
| may be wholly own franchises where the owner has to pay the fine if they
| get busted. The real fine is having to go to court to fight the FCC, and
| that sounds like what may happen. When it does it could cost them much
| more than the $125K fine depending on how far they want to take the
fight
| up the legal ladder. This would be the case to watch.
|
| I think you can bankrupt on that one.

when you check out what the fine is for a gas spill from the EPA , the fine
thats being paid for the radios isnt even pocket change...they wont sweat it
and they are all company operated centers, none are franchised...
harv

"harvey" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
| "Leland C. Scott" wrote:
| "Twistedhed" wrote in message
| ...
| The large corporations continue to do business as usual while the
| feds pacify insignificants with smoke and mirrors (fines).
|
| Except when the "go to jail" part of the penalty comes up for
| repeated violations. Also don't overlook that some of those Pilot
| Travel centers may be wholly own franchises where the owner has to
| pay the fine if they get busted. The real fine is having to go to
| court to fight the FCC, and that sounds like what may happen. When it
| does it could cost them much more than the $125K fine depending on
| how far they want to take the
fight
| up the legal ladder. This would be the case to watch.
|
| I think you can bankrupt on that one.

when you check out what the fine is for a gas spill from the EPA , the
fine thats being paid for the radios isnt even pocket change...they wont
sweat it and they are all company operated centers, none are
franchised... harv

Tell me about it..Pesticide trucks draw more attention for spill clean-up
and on-site license. I pride myself in compliance with that, mostly for the
applicator exposure. The LD-50 on most of the pesticides we use are at
least 3000 or higher, so you'd have to eat/drink massive amounts to kill
you.

Long term effect is bad typing.

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
| "harvey" wrote:
| "Steveo" wrote in message
| ...
| | "Leland C. Scott" wrote:
| | "Twistedhed" wrote in message
| | ...
| | The large corporations continue to do business as usual while the
| | feds pacify insignificants with smoke and mirrors (fines).
| |
| | Except when the "go to jail" part of the penalty comes up for
| | repeated violations. Also don't overlook that some of those Pilot
| | Travel centers may be wholly own franchises where the owner has to
| | pay the fine if they get busted. The real fine is having to go to
| | court to fight the FCC, and that sounds like what may happen. When
it
| | does it could cost them much more than the $125K fine depending on
| | how far they want to take the
| fight
| | up the legal ladder. This would be the case to watch.
| |
| | I think you can bankrupt on that one.
|
| when you check out what the fine is for a gas spill from the EPA , the
| fine thats being paid for the radios isnt even pocket change...they wont
| sweat it and they are all company operated centers, none are
| franchised... harv
|
| Tell me about it..Pesticide trucks draw more attention for spill clean-up
| and on-site license. I pride myself in compliance with that, mostly for
the
| applicator exposure. The LD-50 on most of the pesticides we use are at
| least 3000 or higher, so you'd have to eat/drink massive amounts to kill
| you.
|
| Long term effect is bad typing.

i know as i get older its harder to hit seperate keys and its also according
to my thc levels.....hehe
buit then again the exposure to all the junk i used in the service i know
doesnt help matters..any one ever use green death or red lead? does wonders
for your health
harv

"harvey" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
| Long term effect is bad typing.

i know as i get older its harder to hit seperate keys and its also
according to my thc levels.....hehe

I wuz talking about my typing.

"Leland C. Scott" wrote in message
...
|
| "Twistedhed" wrote in message
| ...
| The large corporations continue to do business as usual while the
| feds pacify insignificants with smoke and mirrors (fines).
|
| Except when the "go to jail" part of the penalty comes up for repeated
| violations. Also don't overlook that some of those Pilot Travel centers
may
| be wholly own franchises where the owner has to pay the fine if they get
| busted. The real fine is having to go to court to fight the FCC, and that
| sounds like what may happen. When it does it could cost them much more
than
| the $125K fine depending on how far they want to take the fight up the
legal
| ladder. This would be the case to watch.
| --
| Leland C. Scott
| KC8LDO
|
i think a company whose one branch makes over 5 billion a yr will just shrug
this off....
harv

"harvey" wrote in message
.. .

"Leland C. Scott" wrote in message
...
|
| "Twistedhed" wrote in message
| ...
| The large corporations continue to do business as usual while the
| feds pacify insignificants with smoke and mirrors (fines).
|
| Except when the "go to jail" part of the penalty comes up for repeated
| violations. Also don't overlook that some of those Pilot Travel centers
may
| be wholly own franchises where the owner has to pay the fine if they get
| busted. The real fine is having to go to court to fight the FCC, and
that
| sounds like what may happen. When it does it could cost them much more
than
| the $125K fine depending on how far they want to take the fight up the
legal
| ladder. This would be the case to watch.
| --
| Leland C. Scott
| KC8LDO
|
i think a company whose one branch makes over 5 billion a yr will just
shrug
this off....
harv

For a large company yeah you're right. But then again if one of the
executives ends up in jail, which they can, then taking the radios off the
shelf would have looked like the smart thing to do and then just shrug it
off. Lately the government likes throwing white collar company executives in
jail for wrong doing. After all just how much money are they going to
realistically loose anyway from dumping the questionable radios from their
sales line up? Not much is my guess. If the FCC chooses to play hard-ball I
expect they will just do what the FCC told them to do, and not waste any
more time or money on something that won't materially affect their bottom
line.


--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

Wireless Network
Mobile computing
on the go brought
to you by Micro$oft

"Leland C. Scott" wrote in message
...
|
| "harvey" wrote in message
| .. .
|
| "Leland C. Scott" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| | "Twistedhed" wrote in message
| | ...
| | The large corporations continue to do business as usual while the
| | feds pacify insignificants with smoke and mirrors (fines).
| |
| | Except when the "go to jail" part of the penalty comes up for repeated
| | violations. Also don't overlook that some of those Pilot Travel
centers
| may
| | be wholly own franchises where the owner has to pay the fine if they
get
| | busted. The real fine is having to go to court to fight the FCC, and
| that
| | sounds like what may happen. When it does it could cost them much more
| than
| | the $125K fine depending on how far they want to take the fight up the
| legal
| | ladder. This would be the case to watch.
| | --
| | Leland C. Scott
| | KC8LDO
| |
| i think a company whose one branch makes over 5 billion a yr will just
| shrug
| this off....
| harv
|
| For a large company yeah you're right. But then again if one of the
| executives ends up in jail, which they can, then taking the radios off the
| shelf would have looked like the smart thing to do and then just shrug it
| off. Lately the government likes throwing white collar company executives
in
| jail for wrong doing. After all just how much money are they going to
| realistically loose anyway from dumping the questionable radios from their
| sales line up? Not much is my guess. If the FCC chooses to play hard-ball
I
| expect they will just do what the FCC told them to do, and not waste any
| more time or money on something that won't materially affect their bottom
| line.
|
|
| --
| Leland C. Scott
| KC8LDO
|
| Wireless Network
| Mobile computing
| on the go brought
| to you by Micro$oft
|
|i'll have to agree with ya on that leland-wouldnt ya like to be the fly on
the wall and hear the conversation that happens when they pull in the guy or
gal who decided to add them to their line-up on the selves...lol....fingers
may be pointing all over the place..lol
harv