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Old December 31st 04, 05:44 AM
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Psychiatrist to keyclowns wrote:
Not needed by anyone operating legally.

Really? I need two 150A alternators... and I operate quite legally, from
160 meters to 10 meters, plus 6, 2, 70cm, 1G, and 10G.

You might want to be a bit more succinct.

Besides, he might need them to power audio amps for his car stereo,
searchlights, lightbars, etc..

I didn't see any mention of what they'd be used for.. he just asked if
it'd be worth it.

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Old December 31st 04, 05:45 AM
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Programbo5 wrote:
Not needed by anyone operating legally.



Now you see right away you are thinking something negative..Since this is a
CB newsgroup maybe a lot of OTR truckers read here and might need a big
alternator for thier Freightliner or Peterbuilt



The internet is more than a global pornography network

Heh. There isn't a "u" in Peterbilt. ::grin::

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Old December 31st 04, 01:45 PM
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:31:51 -0600, itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
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When you quote someone else it's good practice to cite the source:

http://mysite.verizon.net/res00d4r/a...ternator_Theor
y.html



Sorry frank i didnt use that web page as my source.


http://members.1stconnect.com/anozir...nator/alternat
or.htm



Same difference. Author unknown, date unknown. Anonymous authority.

The problem is that the output is far from being "DC of great purity".
The battery is used as a capacitor to smooth the ripple, just like the
filter capacitor in a power supply.


With all this discussion I'm getting ideas for a different type of
alternator: one output for the electrical system and another for an
independent battery charging system. And the battery charging system
could have outputs for both starting and deep-cycle batteries, with
remote temperature control and optional desulfator......... Ok, I'm
dreaming. But I'm definitely going to build an external regulator and
trash that micro-chip garbage that's in it now.


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Old January 1st 05, 01:48 AM
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:26:39 -0600, itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
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Use a Pulse width modulator and some fet's



......uh, I don't think so. Efficiency is far less important to me than
eliminating possible RFI or regulator failure. I have a lot of MJ11028
power Darlingtons and a pair of those should do the job just fine.



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On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 12:05:33 -0600, itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
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Frank Gilliland wrote in
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:26:39 -0600, itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
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Use a Pulse width modulator and some fet's



.....uh, I don't think so. Efficiency is far less important to me than
eliminating possible RFI or regulator failure. I have a lot of MJ11028
power Darlingtons and a pair of those should do the job just fine.




so why would a pwm and some fets on the outputs be any different. I have
never seen rfi or failure due to these components, and a good designer
would add filter caps to the circuit where needed.

PWM tl494 and some P channel fet's would work flawlessly.

http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tl494.html



Why would I convert from a switching regulator to another switching
regulator? That doesn't make sense. I want linear regulation because
switching regulators generate square waves; i.e, noise. Also, FETs in
switching regulators aren't just FETs, they're MOSFETs, and I wouldn't
trust a MOSFET in any harsh environment, let alone under the hood of
my truck.

And BTW, nothing works "flawlessly", especially MOSFET's.


Or you could go with 1-tip36c which would be more than adequate you
wouldn't need 2 MJ11028's



First, a single MJ11028 can handle the same collector current as -two-
TIP36C's. Second, the hfe of the TIP36C is 25 compared to a minimum of
400 for the MJ11028, so the latter doesn't require a power transistor
to drive it. Third, the transistion frequency of the TIP36C is 3MHz,
meaning it can be prone to oscillation -especially- in any application
where surges or spikes can occur; Darlingtons barely work above audio
frequencies. And most important, I don't have a TIP36C but I -do- have
a stock of MJ11028's.




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