I wonder if God will punish them? Or, only the ones attempting to keep 10
meters as it is? And, I am puzzled just how to rate this "crime" on a one-to-ten scale--against, murder, rape, child molestation, grand theft, and spitting on the sidewalk... Regards, John |
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On 26 Apr 2005 20:17:23 -0700, "CB outlaw"
wrote: That is EXCACTLY the point I was making a long time ago (in a galaxy radio far far away) The truckers on 28.085 is channel 19 on most export radios on Band f or g or d or c or....... you get my point, hams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What point was that? Dave "Sandbagger" Reply Thats the point, 10-4 |
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:42:45 -0400, after sulking for many days in
exile and no longer feeling the sting of embarrasment over his many previous demonstrations of ignorance, Dave Hall armed himself with a wet noodle and jumped back into the battle with: On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:12:55 -0400, (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote: From: (Dave*Hall) On 26 Apr 2005 20:17:23 -0700, "CB outlaw" wrote: That is EXCACTLY the point I was making a long time ago (in a galaxy radio far far away) The truckers on 28.085 is channel 19 on most export radios on Band f or g or d or c or....... you get my point, hams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What point was that? Dave "Sandbagger" N3CVJ That most freebanders do not enter the hammie bands, despite Oxendine's and your sock protests against cbers. The law does not distinguish between ignorance and intent. It most certainly does. It's the difference between premeditated murder and negligent manslaughter. Although homocide has nothing to do with the FCC, the commission usually sends a warning to an alleged violator prior to issuing an NAL. If the warning is ignored then the subsequent NAL is prosecuted as a violation that was done both willingly and -intentionally-. The facts are that there ARE illegal intruders on 10 meters. The how's and why's are irrelevant. Intent is -very- relevant because some of those dopes don't know that they are operating illegally. And many of those that -do- know they are illegal are not aware of the severity of the consequences if they get caught. Hence the FCC's pre-NAL warning letter to notify them that such operation is illegal and subject to heavy penalties, giving them the opportunity to rectify their ignorance before they get popped for several thousand dollars. As usual, Dave, you are clueless. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:43 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote: I wonder if God will punish them? Why would God even care? Or, only the ones attempting to keep 10 meters as it is? Why shouldn't they? And, I am puzzled just how to rate this "crime" on a one-to-ten scale--against, murder, rape, child molestation, grand theft, and spitting on the sidewalk... Ah, another one who attempts to justify breaking the law by down playing the relative importance of it. It's an indication of a person's moral compass, by what point they consider a law to be "trivial" enough to ignore. By your logic, we should probably draw a line through all crimes below the "violent" level, since they are "no big deal" in the grand scheme of things. Then once those crimes have been ignored, we can then reclassify all violent crimes as well, and the slippery slope begins..... It's not such a leap for an ultra liberal ACLU- type lawyer to interpret the prosecution of someone's criminal actions as an infringement of some perceived "right". Dave "Sandbagger" http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj |
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:37:35 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote: That most freebanders do not enter the hammie bands, despite Oxendine's and your sock protests against cbers. The law does not distinguish between ignorance and intent. It most certainly does. It's the difference between premeditated murder and negligent manslaughter. I was not talking about those crimes. I was referring to illegal intrusion into radio spectrum allocated for a specific purpose. Although homocide has nothing to do with the FCC, Then why bring it up? the commission usually sends a warning to an alleged violator prior to issuing an NAL. If the warning is ignored then the subsequent NAL is prosecuted as a violation that was done both willingly and -intentionally-. Ok, you win that one. That is usually the case. The facts are that there ARE illegal intruders on 10 meters. The how's and why's are irrelevant. Intent is -very- relevant because some of those dopes don't know that they are operating illegally. (and there are those who think we should open up the whole spectrum to dopes like that. A perfect example of why there are licenses and rules) Ignorance of the law is no excuse. At least it didn't used to be. With all the liberals running around looking to paint every lawbreaker as a victim, I guess ignorance might be a legitimate excuse now. And many of those that -do- know they are illegal are not aware of the severity of the consequences if they get caught. Since you saw fit to bring violent crimes into the picture in the beginning, I'll refer back to them when I make the point that someone claiming that he didn't know the gun was loaded, would hardly be absolved of the crime of killing someone based on that excuse alone. Hence the FCC's pre-NAL warning letter to notify them that such operation is illegal and subject to heavy penalties, giving them the opportunity to rectify their ignorance before they get popped for several thousand dollars. Do you get a warning when you get pulled over for speeding? Sometimes you do, sometimes not. Do you get a warning when you rob a bank? Rape someone? Assault? Do you get a chance to claim ignorance and promise that you won't do it again? It's true that the FCC usually sends out warning notices first, but they don't have to. That's called discretion (the better part of valor). Dave "Sandbagger" http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj |
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote: Steveo wrote in : KB3BEJ chrissy the sissy busch wrote: Steveo is the only assclown to complain about top posters STFU, sissy. LOL there he goes again accusing innocent people. There's nothing innocent about you, Chris. why not come to my house pussy boy Ill pay the gas I'd get the same response from you that I got from your hero. http://img141.echo.cx/my.php?image=d...sefugly4un.jpg |
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:24:02 -0400, Dave Hall
wrote in : On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:37:35 -0700, Frank Gilliland wrote: That most freebanders do not enter the hammie bands, despite Oxendine's and your sock protests against cbers. The law does not distinguish between ignorance and intent. It most certainly does. It's the difference between premeditated murder and negligent manslaughter. I was not talking about those crimes. I was referring to illegal intrusion into radio spectrum allocated for a specific purpose. Although homocide has nothing to do with the FCC, Then why bring it up? Because it has some parallels to the topic. the commission usually sends a warning to an alleged violator prior to issuing an NAL. If the warning is ignored then the subsequent NAL is prosecuted as a violation that was done both willingly and -intentionally-. Ok, you win that one. That is usually the case. The facts are that there ARE illegal intruders on 10 meters. The how's and why's are irrelevant. Intent is -very- relevant because some of those dopes don't know that they are operating illegally. (and there are those who think we should open up the whole spectrum to dopes like that. A perfect example of why there are licenses and rules) Ignorance of the law is no excuse. At least it didn't used to be. With all the liberals running around looking to paint every lawbreaker as a victim, I guess ignorance might be a legitimate excuse now. I see it a little differently: When we the people are subject to mountains of laws that can be fully understood only by an army of lawyers, ignorance can be a very reasonable excuse in many cases. It's simply impractical (and nearly impossible) for the average citizen to know and understand all the laws that apply to every circumstance. And many of those that -do- know they are illegal are not aware of the severity of the consequences if they get caught. Since you saw fit to bring violent crimes into the picture in the beginning, I'll refer back to them when I make the point that someone claiming that he didn't know the gun was loaded, would hardly be absolved of the crime of killing someone based on that excuse alone. It has happened. But even when it didn't, the lack of intent has certainly been a factor in determining the punishment. Hence the FCC's pre-NAL warning letter to notify them that such operation is illegal and subject to heavy penalties, giving them the opportunity to rectify their ignorance before they get popped for several thousand dollars. Do you get a warning when you get pulled over for speeding? Sometimes you do, sometimes not. Do you get a warning when you rob a bank? Rape someone? Assault? Do you get a chance to claim ignorance and promise that you won't do it again? There is a defense known as 'justifiable homocide'. I understand that it's rarely used, but it has been a successful defense in some cases. It's true that the FCC usually sends out warning notices first, but they don't have to. That's called discretion (the better part of valor). Actually, they do need to send out those notices in almost all cases. The reason behind it is the FCC's pseudo-constitutional system of law enforcement and the need to establish "willful and malicious" conduct of the violator. This bypasses the criminal court system, forwards the forfeiture order directly to the DOJ for collection, and pre-empts evasion of payment if the violator files for bankruptcy -- an NAL is a debt that cannot be discharged under any chapter of bankruptcy law. If the debt -was- dischargeable then the FCC would be forced to file an adversarial complaint and subsequently defend their law enforcement practices in Federal court, which is something they have no intention of doing because they would lose. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
steveParkspussbag wrote:
Steveo wrote in news:20050428075700.315 : There's nothing innocent about you, Chris. I thought I was george..LOL you clueless jackass... George is your old man. It's a plain shame you had to drag his name in here while using his puter. I'd get the same response from you that I got from your hero. http://img141.echo.cx/my.php?image=d...sefugly4un.jpg I doubt that you dont have the gumption to try me assclown. Funny. That's what your hero thought the last time he invited me over. -------------------------------------------------------- From:N8WWM Auntie Keyclown ) Subject: calling out Peepeeholic View: Complete Thread (4 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb Date: 2001-08-08 09:09:21 PST Hey Peepeeholic: Yes I am in Toledo. I have plenty of down home hospitality for you or ANY of the other queens in here who wish to stir up some mess. You wanna come by and visit? I will be delighted to send you back to the MISTAKE ON THE LAKE with a thought in your mind that it was a real dumb idea. Imagine, Peepeeholic...Imagine...You come to my place and star some junk...I put you face down and hurtin extreme, take pics of you laying there with a bumped up noggin, and post 'em to the NG. I relish you coming by. I am good in the callbook, just as I told your wife, the trainedpuppet. Have not had this much fun since I used to go cuttin' coax and building jamming oscillators back when I was 16 yrs old. ------------------------------*--------------------------- |
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