On Fri, 6 May 2005 11:00:49 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
:

Well, unless I am mistaken, the following appears in our constitution:
". . . endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights . . ."


You -are- mistaken -- that's from the Declaration of Independence.


Now, I am an AMERIAN with GREAT respect for the founders and traditions of
this country--if the "rule of God" was good enough for them, it is good
enough for me, end of story!!!!


But it -wasn't- good enough for them, which is why Madison and
Jefferson fought so hard against the Conventicle Act and the Test Act,
and why the Bill of Rights includes a clause that establishes both
freedom of religion and the seperation of church and state.








----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----

You are right, that is the bill of rights--the two documents are inseperable
in my mind--I often refer to them both as one...

And, you are right again, we do indeed have freedom of religion--the "state"
cannot establish a "state religion" is what that means... I didn't want them
to anyway ... with my luck they'd pick the "Jehovah Witnesses"--I'd have
gov't people knocking on my door on the weekend!!!! grin

Regards,
John

"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
...
| On Fri, 6 May 2005 11:00:49 -0700, "John Smith"
| wrote in
| :
|
| Well, unless I am mistaken, the following appears in our constitution:
| ". . . endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights . . ."
|
|
| You -are- mistaken -- that's from the Declaration of Independence.
|
|
| Now, I am an AMERIAN with GREAT respect for the founders and traditions
of
| this country--if the "rule of God" was good enough for them, it is good
| enough for me, end of story!!!!
|
|
| But it -wasn't- good enough for them, which is why Madison and
| Jefferson fought so hard against the Conventicle Act and the Test Act,
| and why the Bill of Rights includes a clause that establishes both
| freedom of religion and the seperation of church and state.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet
News==----
| http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+
Newsgroups
| ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption
=----

On Fri, 6 May 2005 14:07:53 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
:

You are right, that is the bill of rights--the two documents are inseperable
in my mind--I often refer to them both as one...


That's because they -are- one. The Bill of Rights is just a name used
for the first ten Amendments to the Constitution. Actually, the bill
contained twelve amendments, but the first two didn't pass. One of
those two amendments passed 150 years later. The other one deserves
reconsideration -- it would establish an upper limit on the number of
people that can be represented by a member of the House of Reps.


And, you are right again, we do indeed have freedom of religion--the "state"
cannot establish a "state religion" is what that means...


Absolutely right. Religious freedom is for -everybody-, not just the
majority. If the government starts playing favorites then the freedoms
enjoyed by the minorities are stifled, and we regress back to the same
type of government that ruled over the colonies until they declared
independence from Britain.


I didn't want them
to anyway ... with my luck they'd pick the "Jehovah Witnesses"--I'd have
gov't people knocking on my door on the weekend!!!! grin


Hmmmm..... Jehovah's Witness IRS agents..... now -that's- scary!






----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----