That is the crux of the matter, we need to control our politicians
(public servants) they control the military for us--the force would have
to be directed the the servants who are going about with their own
plans--just enough to convince them it is more beneficial for them to
follow the peoples... we did this with a king of england and his powers
once... I would suppose it could be done again... if that need ever
arises...

Warmest regards,
John

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Dave:

No, gov't flows from the citizens to the gov't--wouldn't create any
more gov't... we need citizens in control of a home militia...

Warmest regards,
John

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 May 2005 11:03:07 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote:

We need a good strong militia here, something on a national level to
oversee
and watchdog our gov't--and have a basic plan if there ever arises a
need to
rise up and take control back from our gov't...

So you want to create a shadow government? Who in this organization
would be accountable to the people? How would they be chosen? Who
would determine when the government had "overstepped its bounds". How
would this vigilante shadow governmental oversight group institute
its
"takeover" of the government? Do you think a bunch of unorganized
citizens with rifles and shotguns would be able to defeat the U.S.
military?


you would think someone in
the right position with enough money would already have something
started,
anyone know of a good group... nothing radical, just a group which
swears to
uphold the constitution, but will resort to force if necessary?

I think the communist party is looking for new recruits......

Dave
"Sandbagger"