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Old July 21st 05, 08:54 PM
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"Vinnie S." wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:42:30 -0700, Jay in the Mojave

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Good deal.

I want ta work on my Ham radio slang, breaker.........

hehehehehehe

Jay in the Mojave



John Smith wrote:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc



Why isn't this available on a website?

BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I have used

code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.

Vinnie S.



You need to get to about 13 words per minute minimum before you'll always
remember it.

I was running around 50 words per minute when I hung up my guns around 1969.
In 1993, I simply retested with no brush up. Hadn't copied cw since 1969
yet passed 20 words per minute


Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim



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Old July 22nd 05, 01:15 AM
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:54:34 GMT, "Jim Hampton" wrote:


You need to get to about 13 words per minute minimum before you'll always
remember it.

I was running around 50 words per minute when I hung up my guns around 1969.
In 1993, I simply retested with no brush up. Hadn't copied cw since 1969
yet passed 20 words per minute


Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim



I agree. Also, the tester said they use the ARRL practice tapes for the exam. So
if you have the tapes, and you can learn the alphabet, you can pick up fairly
quickly which if the practice codes they use. That is what I did. I studied
every night for a month.

They should require CW for CW privilages, at the 13 WPM.

Vinnie S.
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Old July 22nd 05, 01:23 AM
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Now there ya go!!!

Don't let those dern buggers CW unless they know how!!!

In fact, we should make'em pass an IQ test before we let them CW!
grin

John

"Vinnie S." wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:54:34 GMT, "Jim Hampton"
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You need to get to about 13 words per minute minimum before you'll
always
remember it.

I was running around 50 words per minute when I hung up my guns
around 1969.
In 1993, I simply retested with no brush up. Hadn't copied cw since
1969
yet passed 20 words per minute


Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim



I agree. Also, the tester said they use the ARRL practice tapes for
the exam. So
if you have the tapes, and you can learn the alphabet, you can pick
up fairly
quickly which if the practice codes they use. That is what I did. I
studied
every night for a month.

They should require CW for CW privilages, at the 13 WPM.

Vinnie S.



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Old July 23rd 05, 09:49 AM
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"Vinnie S." wrote in message
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BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I have used

code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.


You know that was one of the points the FCC mentioned in it's NPRM, the
frequency that Hams learn the code and then never use it, as one point in
their decision to drop Morse testing completely.

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Old July 24th 05, 04:59 AM
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:49:31 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"
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"Vinnie S." wrote in message
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BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I have used

code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.


You know that was one of the points the FCC mentioned in it's NPRM, the
frequency that Hams learn the code and then never use it, as one point in
their decision to drop Morse testing completely.



I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want CW privilages.

Vinnie S.


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Old July 24th 05, 05:42 AM
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I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want CW privilages.

And they should test for the knowledge of shoeing horses to drive a car.

I don't think CW will die. There will always be someone that wants to understand
the beeping that's going on. If someone wants to learn it and use it, let them.
the rest of us are dusting off our 2950's and waiting...

I had to email Riley to answer a lively conversation on 2 meters last night.

Seems some folks can't believe an unmodified 2950 is legal to use on 10 meters.
If I read the rules right, an amateur can use any radio on the ham bands. The
FCC only gets upset when one uses an uncertified radio on a Part 95 band. If
the 2950 has it's jumpers in the stock position, it should be OK on the ham band.
If modified, you can no longer use it anywhere. I'm still waiting for an answer.

I'm not allowed to use my 2950 on CB, my IC-2100 on MURS or my HTX-420 on FRS.

I can use my TRC-451 on CB, my 21-1910 on MURS and my 21-1860 on FRS, however,
if I modify any of them to work 10 meters ,2 meters or 70 centimeters, I'm good.

I guess I'll have to pass Element 3 again. It expired on July 6, 2004. I missed
the Extra test by two questions without even cracking a book the same day I
passed General. No code. I'm still a tech that uses a CB as well as ham.
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Old July 24th 05, 04:53 PM
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Vinnie:

Now that sounds perfectly logical.

Really, they are not going to let those CB'ers have a key unless they
have take a CW test, are they?

John

"Vinnie S." wrote in message
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:49:31 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"

wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
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BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I have
used

code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.


You know that was one of the points the FCC mentioned in it's NPRM,
the
frequency that Hams learn the code and then never use it, as one
point in
their decision to drop Morse testing completely.



I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want CW
privilages.

Vinnie S.



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Old July 24th 05, 05:25 PM
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"Vinnie S." wrote in message
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:49:31 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"


wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I have used

code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.


You know that was one of the points the FCC mentioned in it's NPRM, the
frequency that Hams learn the code and then never use it, as one point in
their decision to drop Morse testing completely.



I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want CW

privilages.

There is no need to have any test for CW. The use of it will stand or fall
on it's own merits without any artificial boost due to testing requirements.
CW will never die out completely, like classic cars, somebody will always
have an interest in it.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

Vinnie S.



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Old July 21st 05, 08:52 PM
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"Jay in the Mojave" wrote in message
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Good deal.

I want ta work on my Ham radio slang, breaker.........

hehehehehehe

Jay in the Mojave



John Smith wrote:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc


John




Well, I'll be pulling my Hallicrafters HA-1 TO keyer out of the attic.

Ain't much slang at 40 words per minute cw

Which is legal anywhere in the ham bands (with the appropriate license)
other than 60 meters. )

And the am kilowatt stations never could bother my 75 watts on cw then, and
they couldn't touch 100 watts of cw now. ))

They tried - and failed.



Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim


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Old July 21st 05, 11:18 PM
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Well, I'll be pulling my Hallicrafters HA-1 TO

keyer out of the attic.


Ain't much slang at 40 words per minute cw


Which is legal anywhere in the ham bands


(with the appropriate license) other than 60


meters. )


And the am kilowatt stations never could


bother my 75 watts on cw then, and they


couldn't touch 100 watts of cw now. ))


They tried - and failed.


Best regards from Rochester, NY


Jim


Chances are those who tried were nocodes. Upper classmen in the hammie
field KNOW they can't touch it and wouldn't try something
so.....nocode-ish.



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