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zYYPK November 14th 05 10:08 PM

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"The Magnum" wrote:


"zarPK"

rcom.ie.net wrote in message ...
"The Magnum" wrote:

just a form of elitist snobbery. Also trying to say anyone who doesnt

want
to learn morse is basically a "scumbag" shows Bigotry beyond contempt.

Why

I said no such thing !

you have some correcting to do.


That comment was meant for the posters who say people on Amateur Bands who
do not wish to involve themselves with morse are lowly class CBers who seem
to live in trailor parks and live off welfare and care nothing (scumbags in
other words) It wasnt aimed directly at you it was put in as an "Also" to
those who try to put that image over. Maybe I should have made it a bit
clearer.



IT IS MY OPINION THAT...
theres a difference between
a cb'er who choses to join and amateur radio to improve his/her knowledge
and capability with radio
and
a cb'er who choses to invade amateur bands just to have extra bands to
play with and brings his/her 11m habits with him/her


an old friend November 15th 05 04:16 AM

FAQ
 

Walter Raleigh wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:08:18 GMT,

(zYYPK) blurted forth into cyberspace:

*apologies to Spike*
IT IS MY OPINION THAT...
theres a difference between
a cb'er who choses to join and amateur radio to improve his/her knowledge
and capability with radio
and
a cb'er who choses to invade amateur bands just to have extra bands to
play with and brings his/her 11m habits with him/her


thta of course depends on what those CB habits are

many Cber don't intend to operate at varrance with the rules (it is
possible at various points to break certain rules without intending I
have broken the 150 mile rule a few times is was rela drag though I was
trying to talk accroos town till the landmarks did not check out I was
in springffield IL and was talking to sringfeild MO without meaning to

Absolutely correct.
--

73s de Walter R.



see sea oh ecks at you aitch see dot comm November 15th 05 05:29 PM

FAQ
 
In uk.radio.amateur The Magnum wrote:
Also the point still stands that a few, if not lot of problems on Amateur
bands could be down to kids going on their parents equipment while they are
out. There are lots of possibilitys but the CB'er gets it in the neck all
the time.


Whish is firmly where the responsibility is meant to lay. The Licensee is
the one responsible for the correct operation of his station at all times.
If he is not physically present, it is his/her responsibilty to ensure that
the equipment is disabled.
--
Chris Cox, N0UK/G4JEC NIC Handle: CC345
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

The Magnum November 15th 05 06:13 PM

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"zYYPK"

rcom.ie.net wrote in message ...
"The Magnum" wrote:


"zarPK"


rcom.ie.net wrote in message ...
"The Magnum" wrote:

just a form of elitist snobbery. Also trying to say anyone who

doesnt
want
to learn morse is basically a "scumbag" shows Bigotry beyond

contempt.
Why

I said no such thing !

you have some correcting to do.


That comment was meant for the posters who say people on Amateur Bands

who
do not wish to involve themselves with morse are lowly class CBers who

seem
to live in trailor parks and live off welfare and care nothing (scumbags

in
other words) It wasnt aimed directly at you it was put in as an "Also"

to
those who try to put that image over. Maybe I should have made it a bit
clearer.



IT IS MY OPINION THAT...
theres a difference between
a cb'er who choses to join and amateur radio to improve his/her knowledge
and capability with radio
and
a cb'er who choses to invade amateur bands just to have extra bands to
play with and brings his/her 11m habits with him/her



Yes, I agree with you whole heartedly but many older Hams refer to "both" as
simply CB'ers. This "will" upset genuine CB radio operators, and those who
did advance to Amateur from CB, as many full licence Hams dont seem able to
distinguish between the two, or dont want to distinguish... thats the
problem.
Also the point still stands that a few, if not lot of problems on Amateur
bands could be down to kids going on their parents equipment while they are
out. There are lots of possibilitys but the CB'er gets it in the neck all
the time.
Regards,
Graham



The Magnum November 15th 05 06:19 PM

FAQ
 

"Walter Raleigh" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:08:18 GMT,


com.ie.net
(zYYPK) blurted forth into cyberspace:

*apologies to Spike*
IT IS MY OPINION THAT...
theres a difference between
a cb'er who choses to join and amateur radio to improve his/her knowledge
and capability with radio
and
a cb'er who choses to invade amateur bands just to have extra bands to
play with and brings his/her 11m habits with him/her


Absolutely correct.
--

73s de Walter R.


Not absolutely correct. Correct in some instances but i know lots of people
on 11 meter who go on SSB (illegaly of course) who treat it sensibly and
dont mess about. Many 11 meter users, especially the SSB users, have
reasonably good control on the airwaves even to the point of writing a log
and QSL'ing. These are CB'ers im talking about by the way, not Amateurs
although I know a couple of Amateurs who used to join in occasionally (using
their pirate call signs of course)
Regards,
Graham



The Magnum November 15th 05 06:37 PM

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"see sea oh ecks at you aitch see dot comm"
wrote in message ...
In uk.radio.amateur The Magnum

wrote:
Also the point still stands that a few, if not lot of problems on

Amateur
bands could be down to kids going on their parents equipment while they

are
out. There are lots of possibilitys but the CB'er gets it in the neck

all
the time.


Whish is firmly where the responsibility is meant to lay. The Licensee is
the one responsible for the correct operation of his station at all times.
If he is not physically present, it is his/her responsibilty to ensure

that
the equipment is disabled.
--
Chris Cox, N0UK/G4JEC NIC Handle: CC345
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.


Maybe not to the point of disconnecting his/her equipment but at least
bringing up their kids to be respectful of things. I would personally put a
lock on the "shack" door so I could secure the room but some people have
them in their living room so sometimes I guess its asking for trouble. My CB
is in my office and also one in my repair "shack" and when I go out I make
sure both are locked. If I can do it for CB why cant they do it with their
Amateur kit... which is far more valuable in any case. Mind you, some adults
cant even be arsed to secure their guns but thats a different story.......
Regards,
Graham



an old friend November 15th 05 07:17 PM

FAQ
 

see sea oh ecks at you aitch see dot comm wrote:
In uk.radio.amateur The Magnum wrote:
Also the point still stands that a few, if not lot of problems on Amateur
bands could be down to kids going on their parents equipment while they are
out. There are lots of possibilitys but the CB'er gets it in the neck all
the time.


Whish is firmly where the responsibility is meant to lay. The Licensee is
the one responsible for the correct operation of his station at all times.
If he is not physically present, it is his/her responsibilty to ensure that
the equipment is disabled.


not exactly or only in theory the Ham is responible for the use of his
equipement, but when was the last time the FCC tried to bust a ham for
say someone breaking into his car and using the equipment

In addition some modes can be used without the ham being present at
all

My car for example will transmit an APRS signal at intervals anytime
the engine is running, unless I turn it off each time I turn on the
engine. This allows me to kow where the body thing is if my old man
calls back to house and tells me he is lost, or if I found the car
missing and knew none of had it I could tell the cops where to go find
the theives
--
Chris Cox, N0UK/G4JEC NIC Handle: CC345
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.



see sea oh ecks at you aitch see dot comm November 15th 05 08:46 PM

FAQ
 
In uk.radio.amateur an old friend wrote:
not exactly or only in theory the Ham is responible for the use of his
equipement, but when was the last time the FCC tried to bust a ham for
say someone breaking into his car and using the equipment

In addition some modes can be used without the ham being present at
all

My car for example will transmit an APRS signal at intervals anytime
the engine is running, unless I turn it off each time I turn on the
engine. This allows me to kow where the body thing is if my old man
calls back to house and tells me he is lost, or if I found the car
missing and knew none of had it I could tell the cops where to go find
the theives


Since when has the FCC had jurisdiction over radio amateurs in the UK?
British regulations are different to that in the UK.
--
Chris Cox, N0UK/G4JEC NIC Handle: CC345
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

zYYPK November 15th 05 09:16 PM

FAQ
 
"The Magnum" wrote:


Not absolutely correct. Correct in some instances but i know lots of people
on 11 meter who go on SSB (illegaly of course) who treat it sensibly and
dont mess about. Many 11 meter users, especially the SSB users, have
reasonably good control on the airwaves even to the point of writing a log
and QSL'ing. These are CB'ers im talking about by the way, not Amateurs
although I know a couple of Amateurs who used to join in occasionally (using
their pirate call signs of course)



later on...
i remembered those on 11m who are the height of decency and kindness
and strive for excellence on 11m rather than messing around.


zYYPK November 15th 05 10:09 PM

FAQ
 
"see sea oh ecks at you aitch see dot comm"
wrote:
Since when has the FCC had jurisdiction over radio amateurs in the UK?


this can be arranged :-)


[email protected] November 18th 05 06:42 PM

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See my earlier post. Doesn't take long, does it?

Steveo wrote:

F*ck off, asshat.





[email protected] November 19th 05 06:53 PM

FAQ
 
The Magnum wrote:

....(snip)
Lol, great command of the English language there. I wonder if his morse is
as bad........
(snip)


......****. your **** now trying to say Amateurs above the entry level
never cause interference or mess about sometimes on the air.... b-ll-cks.





Peter November 26th 05 09:00 AM

Hey, Magnum (was FAQ)...
 
"Peter" wrote...

IIRC, Little Britain...
"You smell nice, what is it?"

"Murray Mints."

Maybe it was on the radio series, I have the CD set.
I remember, with my alder relatives, Nutalls Mintos and mint imperials... but it always seems
to be mints. Avoid mints at all costs, it's a sign that you are getting old.


Did you see the first in the new series of Little Britain?
All day, the top news was that the new series was starting. The following day, top news was
the ratings... 9 million viewers. At this rate, it may overtake the soaps.

Oh my, the roly-polies in that naked fight scene. I had to look away to avoid throwing
up at the sight of it.


Regards,

Peter.




Dana December 9th 05 09:13 PM

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I enjoyed the code at 1 time, but not anymore.

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005, The Magnum wrote:


"Dana" wrote in message
.com...
The mistake the FCC made was dropping the code requirment down to 5 wpm.
Lots of nivices squeeked under the wire.


What is this absurd fascination with Morse Code? Wouldnt you rather just
talk to people? I know all about the arguements about it getting through
when all else fails but is it really life and death?? If i cant get through
on the radio I use a Phone or the Internet. After all its just a hobby.
Besides, doesnt all that dot dot dot.. dash dash dash give you a headache
after a while??
Dont get me wrong, im not having a go at Amateurs im just asking the
question.. why is it so important?

Regards,
Graham




Dana December 9th 05 09:51 PM

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You know what? I can't copy CW as fast as I used to either. I got into
radio before some of you was born.


Steveo December 10th 05 05:39 AM

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Dana wrote:
You know what? I can't copy CW

Not surprising, you can't quote the text you're responding to either, top X
posting ****wit.

Paul Burridge December 10th 05 11:41 AM

FAQ
 

What is this absurd fascination with Morse Code? Wouldnt you rather just
talk to people? I know all about the arguements about it getting through
when all else fails but is it really life and death?? If i cant get through
on the radio I use a Phone or the Internet. After all its just a hobby.
Besides, doesnt all that dot dot dot.. dash dash dash give you a headache
after a while??
Dont get me wrong, im not having a go at Amateurs im just asking the
question.. why is it so important?


It has its own abiding fascination for some of us. And if you get
selfish idiots on SSB encroaching on the CW end of bands, you can blow
them away without difficulty and still carry on an uninterrupted QSO
with fellow CWers.
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd" - William Blake

The Magnum December 10th 05 01:36 PM

FAQ
 

"Paul Burridge" k wrote
in message ...

What is this absurd fascination with Morse Code? Wouldnt you rather

just
talk to people? I know all about the arguements about it getting

through
when all else fails but is it really life and death?? If i cant get

through
on the radio I use a Phone or the Internet. After all its just a hobby.
Besides, doesnt all that dot dot dot.. dash dash dash give you a

headache
after a while??
Dont get me wrong, im not having a go at Amateurs im just asking the
question.. why is it so important?


It has its own abiding fascination for some of us. And if you get
selfish idiots on SSB encroaching on the CW end of bands, you can blow
them away without difficulty and still carry on an uninterrupted QSO
with fellow CWers.
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd" - William Blake


Then that's fine for you and your CW friends but is it really the top goal
all Amateurs set out to achieve... to go dah dah dah dit dit dit dah dah
dah? Don't you also enjoy talking to distance stations with your voice too?
I agree that the part of the spectrum allocated to Morse should be left for
Morse and those who wish to use Morse should have a slightly different level
of licence/callsign to acknowledge this but it seems its always but "always"
levelled at us with any discussion about seemingly low licensed
intermediates/M3's/general class that unless your an extra class/advanced
you are some sort of trailer park scum. Not for one minute am I saying you
say this but its the general impression most get from some "alleged" full
licence holders in these newsgroups.

Regards and Happy Christmas,
Graham

--
_._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)



Paul Burridge December 11th 05 01:11 AM

FAQ
 
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:36:30 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:

Then that's fine for you and your CW friends but is it really the top goal
all Amateurs set out to achieve... to go dah dah dah dit dit dit dah dah
dah? Don't you also enjoy talking to distance stations with your voice too?


No. I know that sounds odd but it's true. Can't really explain it, I
guess. :-|
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd" - William Blake

Dana December 11th 05 04:16 AM

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Well, not that old now, LOL. 49.

On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, Walt Davidson wrote:

On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:51:41 -0500, Dana wrote:

You know what? I can't copy CW as fast as I used to either. I got into
radio before some of you was born.


Well, before most of the 6-year-old M3s, anyway.

73 de G3NYY

--
Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com


Landshark December 11th 05 06:07 PM

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"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Dana wrote:
You know what? I can't copy CW

Not surprising, you can't quote the text you're responding to either, top
X
posting ****wit.


LOL!!!, I kill-filed him, nothing more than a troll
Did you get the catalog along with the magazine?

Landshark


--
Courage is what it takes to stand up
and speak; courage is also what it
takes to sit down and listen.




Steveo December 11th 05 07:53 PM

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"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Dana wrote:
You know what? I can't copy CW

Not surprising, you can't quote the text you're responding to either,
top X
posting ****wit.


LOL!!!, I kill-filed him, nothing more than a troll
Did you get the catalog along with the magazine?

Landshark

I got one, did you send another?

Landshark December 11th 05 11:27 PM

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"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Dana wrote:
You know what? I can't copy CW

Not surprising, you can't quote the text you're responding to either,
top X
posting ****wit.


LOL!!!, I kill-filed him, nothing more than a troll
Did you get the catalog along with the magazine?

Landshark

I got one, did you send another?


Since you were on our mailing list, every Christmas we have
a deal with a industry mag to deliver their mag & our catalog.

Landshark


--
The internet is fun but it's no substitute for books, people, nature,
or direct experiences. But you think that you can get everything you
need from your computer, you are a fool.

Frank Gililland



Steveo December 12th 05 11:04 AM

FAQ
 
"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
Since you were on our mailing list, every Christmas we have
a deal with a industry mag to deliver their mag & our catalog.

Landshark

Cool, I'll look for my Christmas card then! :)

Dana December 22nd 05 05:41 AM

FAQ
 
I am a blind person that uses a screen read program you stupid ****er, so
I can type anyway I want. You try using a computer without sight and lets
see how far you get.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005, Steveo wrote:

"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Dana wrote:
You know what? I can't copy CW

Not surprising, you can't quote the text you're responding to either,
top X
posting ****wit.


LOL!!!, I kill-filed him, nothing more than a troll
Did you get the catalog along with the magazine?

Landshark

I got one, did you send another?


Scott in Baltimore December 22nd 05 06:59 AM

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Dana wrote:
I am a blind person that uses a screen read program you stupid ****er,
so I can type anyway I want. You try using a computer without sight and
lets see how far you get.


And you just have to love Zoomtext speaking to you!

A buddy of mine uses Zoomtext, and while I'm talking to him on
the radio, his computer starts talking and he tells it to shut up!

The Magnum December 22nd 05 09:34 AM

FAQ
 

"Scott in Baltimore" wrote in message
. ..
Dana wrote:
I am a blind person that uses a screen read program you stupid ****er,
so I can type anyway I want. You try using a computer without sight and
lets see how far you get.


And you just have to love Zoomtext speaking to you!

A buddy of mine uses Zoomtext, and while I'm talking to him on
the radio, his computer starts talking and he tells it to shut up!


What I would like to know is if he uses an agent to convert speech to text
or does he actually attempt to touch type? If he uses an agent I wonder how
come it does typo's? If he touch types then fair enough. At least he isn't
as dyslexic as an_old_friend.

Regards,
Graham
--
-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 (www.open-channel.co.uk)



Scott in Baltimore December 22nd 05 10:04 AM

FAQ
 
The Magnum wrote:
"Scott in Baltimore" wrote in message
. ..

Dana wrote:

I am a blind person that uses a screen read program you stupid ****er,
so I can type anyway I want. You try using a computer without sight and
lets see how far you get.


And you just have to love Zoomtext speaking to you!

A buddy of mine uses Zoomtext, and while I'm talking to him on
the radio, his computer starts talking and he tells it to shut up!



What I would like to know is if he uses an agent to convert speech to text
or does he actually attempt to touch type? If he uses an agent I wonder how
come it does typo's? If he touch types then fair enough. At least he isn't
as dyslexic as an_old_friend.


He wasn't always almost blind. Glaucoma is a bitch. I'll have
to ask, but I'll bet he touch types.

Expensive, but the blind hams here swear by it:
http://www.aisquared.com/index.cfm

Dana December 24th 05 01:22 AM

FAQ
 
I am using windoweyes as the screen reader.

On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Scott in Baltimore wrote:

Dana wrote:
I am a blind person that uses a screen read program you stupid ****er, so I
can type anyway I want. You try using a computer without sight and lets see
how far you get.


And you just have to love Zoomtext speaking to you!

A buddy of mine uses Zoomtext, and while I'm talking to him on
the radio, his computer starts talking and he tells it to shut up!


Dana December 24th 05 01:26 AM

FAQ
 
I type about 60 wpm, but sometimes I make mistakes. Don't use spell check.

On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, The Magnum wrote:


"Scott in Baltimore" wrote in message
. ..
Dana wrote:
I am a blind person that uses a screen read program you stupid ****er,
so I can type anyway I want. You try using a computer without sight and
lets see how far you get.


And you just have to love Zoomtext speaking to you!

A buddy of mine uses Zoomtext, and while I'm talking to him on
the radio, his computer starts talking and he tells it to shut up!


What I would like to know is if he uses an agent to convert speech to text
or does he actually attempt to touch type? If he uses an agent I wonder how
come it does typo's? If he touch types then fair enough. At least he isn't
as dyslexic as an_old_friend.

Regards,
Graham
--
-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 (www.open-channel.co.uk)




Dana December 24th 05 01:27 AM

FAQ
 
I never tryed zoomtext, but heard of it. My web site is
www.randomc.com/~dana


Scott in Baltimore December 24th 05 01:34 AM

FAQ
 
Dana wrote:
I am using windoweyes as the screen reader.




That's the other one he talks about. I asked him last night,
and he's been touch typing since 6th grade. He's retired now.



Dana wrote:

I am a blind person that uses a screen read program you stupid
****er, so I can type anyway I want. You try using a computer without
sight and lets see how far you get.



And you just have to love Zoomtext speaking to you!

A buddy of mine uses Zoomtext, and while I'm talking to him on
the radio, his computer starts talking and he tells it to shut up!



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