"Dick" wrote in message
...
You would never know it by looking through their website. I see
packet radio all over the place. I have always considered TAPR to be
the "father" of today's TNC's.

TAPR kitted the TNC2, twenty years ago. Things have changed since then, and
it has turned around to where hardly anybody at TAPR wants anything to do
with amateur packet radio, and most especially not with packet radio
networking. Packet figured large in TAPR's beginnings, but things change and
it is no longer the central focus of interest for that organization that it
once was.

The "packet radio" stuff in TAPR's name and on their web-site reflect an
earlier era in TAPR's history that is long past. It's a millstone around
their necks, contributing to their present internal confusion and lack of
focus. A lot of the unseemly and un-ham-like nastiness toward other hams
(packet enthusiasts) from TAPR folks springs from this dichotomy. This is
not doing TAPR any good, and of course it is bad for the hobby as well.

If TAPR dropped the "packet" stuff altogether and concentrated on what they
do best, both TAPR and the packet radio enthusiasts in the U.S. would be a
lot better off.

Charles Brabham, N5PVL
Director: USPacket.Net
http://www.uspacket.net

"charlesb" wrote

If TAPR dropped the "packet" stuff altogether and concentrated on what they
do best, both TAPR and the packet radio enthusiasts in the U.S. would be a
lot better off.

The director is right, he's always right, he's *so* right that everyone else is wrong.

"charlesb" wrote

If TAPR dropped the "packet" stuff altogether and concentrated on what they
do best, both TAPR and the packet radio enthusiasts in the U.S. would be a
lot better off.

The director is right, he's always right, he's *so* right that everyone else is wrong.

"Gene Storey" wrote in message
news:wYWsb.3$Cb6.1@okepread03...
"charlesb" wrote

If TAPR dropped the "packet" stuff altogether and concentrated on what
they
do best, both TAPR and the packet radio enthusiasts in the U.S. would be
a
lot better off.

The director is right, he's always right, he's *so* right that everyone
else is wrong.

You must have forgotten that time I thought I was wrong! I was wrong about
that... ;-D

Charles Brabham, N5PVL
Director: USPacket.Net
http://www.uspacket.net

"Gene Storey" wrote in message
news:wYWsb.3$Cb6.1@okepread03...
"charlesb" wrote

If TAPR dropped the "packet" stuff altogether and concentrated on what
they
do best, both TAPR and the packet radio enthusiasts in the U.S. would be
a
lot better off.

The director is right, he's always right, he's *so* right that everyone
else is wrong.

You must have forgotten that time I thought I was wrong! I was wrong about
that... ;-D

Charles Brabham, N5PVL
Director: USPacket.Net
http://www.uspacket.net

"Gene Storey" wrote in message
news9Msb.180$4x3.28@okepread03...
"Some people" will always live in the past.

Could be they (TAPR) don't want to limit themselves to a technology that is
now fully obsolete, and 90% of Hams have abandoned.


Ah yes, that obsolete technology called ... radio.

--

... Hank

Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net

"Gene Storey" wrote in message
news9Msb.180$4x3.28@okepread03...
"Some people" will always live in the past.

Could be they (TAPR) don't want to limit themselves to a technology that is
now fully obsolete, and 90% of Hams have abandoned.


Ah yes, that obsolete technology called ... radio.

--

... Hank

Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net

"Hank Oredson" wrote
"Gene Storey" wrote

"Some people" will always live in the past.

Could be they (TAPR) don't want to limit themselves to a technology that is
now fully obsolete, and 90% of Hams have abandoned.

Ah yes, that obsolete technology called ... radio.

No. You missed the whole point of my well worded position (and at your
age, we can allow for wet pants and confusion). Let me repeat, the thing
that is fully obsolete is ax.25 and the forms of FSK used to carry it.

"Hank Oredson" wrote
"Gene Storey" wrote

"Some people" will always live in the past.

Could be they (TAPR) don't want to limit themselves to a technology that is
now fully obsolete, and 90% of Hams have abandoned.

Ah yes, that obsolete technology called ... radio.

No. You missed the whole point of my well worded position (and at your
age, we can allow for wet pants and confusion). Let me repeat, the thing
that is fully obsolete is ax.25 and the forms of FSK used to carry it.

"Gene Storey" wrote in message
news:M43tb.551$Cb6.338@okepread03...
"Hank Oredson" wrote
"Gene Storey" wrote

"Some people" will always live in the past.

Could be they (TAPR) don't want to limit themselves to a technology
that is
now fully obsolete, and 90% of Hams have abandoned.

Ah yes, that obsolete technology called ... radio.

No. You missed the whole point of my well worded position

All that anti-ham drivel you were spouting?

(and at your
age, we can allow for wet pants and confusion). Let me repeat, the thing
that is fully obsolete is ax.25 and the forms of FSK used to carry it.


Well now, let's just take a look at what's actually going on... There are
two major AX25 networks that cover the entire east coast of the US, going
from 200 miles to 1500 miles inland, owned operated and enjoyed by thousands
of hams every day, who use those networks to save lives and properties every
year.... And then there are the AX25 ARRL skipnets on HF that tie together
different sections of the country via amateur radio, along with overseas
links of course, and the hundreds of smaller VHF/UHF packet nets scattered
around the country, and the new ARES packet radio nets that are popping up
here and there, partially funded by the dept. of homeland security....

And then there's uh, uh.... Oh, I forgot what it was that you were saying
had "obsoleted" amateur packet radio? Where is your ham radio alternative,
and how many hams use it every day?

What is obsolete is your nasty anti-ham attitude. Packet Radio is doing just
fine, thank you, growing and advancing every day, saving property and lives.

You have nothing to show because you are just another miserable anti-ham
troll, infesting a newsgroup for ham radio operators. You are real good at
running down what other people do and accomplish, but have nothing to show
for yourself. Lacking any accomplishment to show, and also lacking in
character, your response is to run down the accomplishments of other, better
hams.

- If you are a ham at all, that is. I don't remember seeing a callsign in
your post which says a lot about you, right off the bat. Your ignorant,
nasty, lying attitude does not lead me to believe that you are a ham either.
If you are a ham, then you shouldn't be.

Charles Brabham, N5PVL
Director: USPacket.Net
http://www.uspacket.net


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