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Greetings again
Maybe I am just not reading the instructions correctly but do you need a special board pluged into your computer to simply listen to a repeater on the network? Larry ve3fxq |
"larry" wrote in message . cable.rogers.com... Greetings again Maybe I am just not reading the instructions correctly but do you need a special board pluged into your computer to simply listen to a repeater on the network? The main thing Larry, is that you have to have a special lack of intelligence that allows you to get on the Internet and call it "Ham Radio" just because some moron has hooked his radio up to the Internet. Charles Brabham, N5PVL |
"larry" wrote in message . cable.rogers.com... Greetings again Maybe I am just not reading the instructions correctly but do you need a special board pluged into your computer to simply listen to a repeater on the network? The main thing Larry, is that you have to have a special lack of intelligence that allows you to get on the Internet and call it "Ham Radio" just because some moron has hooked his radio up to the Internet. Charles Brabham, N5PVL |
In general NO -- computers with the Sound Blaster cards or equivalent --
work just fine. -- 73 From The Wilderness Keyboard "larry" wrote in message . cable.rogers.com... Greetings again Maybe I am just not reading the instructions correctly but do you need a special board pluged into your computer to simply listen to a repeater on the network? Larry ve3fxq |
In general NO -- computers with the Sound Blaster cards or equivalent --
work just fine. -- 73 From The Wilderness Keyboard "larry" wrote in message . cable.rogers.com... Greetings again Maybe I am just not reading the instructions correctly but do you need a special board pluged into your computer to simply listen to a repeater on the network? Larry ve3fxq |
Charles,
I see that you don't much care for progress....or are you just always ornery...bet those who used smoke signals felt the same way when more modern forms of communication came along. Ray WA0LQT "charlesb" wrote in message om... "larry" wrote in message . cable.rogers.com... Greetings again Maybe I am just not reading the instructions correctly but do you need a special board pluged into your computer to simply listen to a repeater on the network? The main thing Larry, is that you have to have a special lack of intelligence that allows you to get on the Internet and call it "Ham Radio" just because some moron has hooked his radio up to the Internet. Charles Brabham, N5PVL |
Charles,
I see that you don't much care for progress....or are you just always ornery...bet those who used smoke signals felt the same way when more modern forms of communication came along. Ray WA0LQT "charlesb" wrote in message om... "larry" wrote in message . cable.rogers.com... Greetings again Maybe I am just not reading the instructions correctly but do you need a special board pluged into your computer to simply listen to a repeater on the network? The main thing Larry, is that you have to have a special lack of intelligence that allows you to get on the Internet and call it "Ham Radio" just because some moron has hooked his radio up to the Internet. Charles Brabham, N5PVL |
I really do get a kick out of those who think that
NOT using radio is somehow progress in the USE of radio! The display of ignorance is quite amazing. -- ... Hank Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net "Traveler" wrote in message ... Charles, I see that you don't much care for progress....or are you just always ornery...bet those who used smoke signals felt the same way when more modern forms of communication came along. Ray WA0LQT "charlesb" wrote in message om... "larry" wrote in message . cable.rogers.com... Greetings again Maybe I am just not reading the instructions correctly but do you need a special board pluged into your computer to simply listen to a repeater on the network? The main thing Larry, is that you have to have a special lack of intelligence that allows you to get on the Internet and call it "Ham Radio" just because some moron has hooked his radio up to the Internet. Charles Brabham, N5PVL |
I really do get a kick out of those who think that
NOT using radio is somehow progress in the USE of radio! The display of ignorance is quite amazing. -- ... Hank Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net "Traveler" wrote in message ... Charles, I see that you don't much care for progress....or are you just always ornery...bet those who used smoke signals felt the same way when more modern forms of communication came along. Ray WA0LQT "charlesb" wrote in message om... "larry" wrote in message . cable.rogers.com... Greetings again Maybe I am just not reading the instructions correctly but do you need a special board pluged into your computer to simply listen to a repeater on the network? The main thing Larry, is that you have to have a special lack of intelligence that allows you to get on the Internet and call it "Ham Radio" just because some moron has hooked his radio up to the Internet. Charles Brabham, N5PVL |
In article ,
says... Charles, I see that you don't much care for progress....or are you just always ornery...bet those who used smoke signals felt the same way when more modern forms of communication came along. snippety As ornery as Charles' reply was (yes, it could have been phrased much better) he does have one valid point: 'Internet' and 'Ham Radio' are two entirely different mediums. Always have been, always will be. IRLP, as I see it, is just a way to get repeater linking done independent of the restrictions of site-based link transceivers. After all, the 'L' in IRLP does stand for 'Linking.' In short: IRLP has its uses, but it will never replace true radio work. -- Dr. Anton Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute (Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR) kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t c&o&m Motorola Radio Programming & Service Available - http://www.bluefeathertech.com/rf.html "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green) |
"Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote in message ... IRLP, as I see it, is just a way to get repeater linking done independent of the restrictions of site-based link transceivers. My feeling is that "hams" who feel that using radio is a "restriction" should consider moving on to another hobby. Charles, N5PVL |
"Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote in message ... IRLP, as I see it, is just a way to get repeater linking done independent of the restrictions of site-based link transceivers. My feeling is that "hams" who feel that using radio is a "restriction" should consider moving on to another hobby. Charles, N5PVL |
"charlesb" wrote in message . com... "Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote in message ... IRLP, as I see it, is just a way to get repeater linking done independent of the restrictions of site-based link transceivers. My feeling is that "hams" who feel that using radio is a "restriction" should consider moving on to another hobby. Charles, N5PVL I've done a bit of research over the past year. Notes are in a folder in the left-hand desk drawer. If you want to see them you have to come visit. Pretty simple to check the callsigns (where the poster actually admits to having a callsign) against databases like the DX spotting networks. To date there has been one hit. I know it sound silly, but of those folks who seem to think "not using radio" is some kind of advancement of the art of "using radio" ... only one actually seems to have ever used radio in the past year. Imagine my surprise. No, I didn't bother to check license databases or qrz.com or whatever to check whether the callsigns used by those posting "anti-ham-radio" posts were actually licensed. No, I will not divulge the callsign of the European ham who showed up in the DX spotting network (JA database) :-) -- ... Hank Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net |
"charlesb" wrote in message . com... "Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote in message ... IRLP, as I see it, is just a way to get repeater linking done independent of the restrictions of site-based link transceivers. My feeling is that "hams" who feel that using radio is a "restriction" should consider moving on to another hobby. Charles, N5PVL I've done a bit of research over the past year. Notes are in a folder in the left-hand desk drawer. If you want to see them you have to come visit. Pretty simple to check the callsigns (where the poster actually admits to having a callsign) against databases like the DX spotting networks. To date there has been one hit. I know it sound silly, but of those folks who seem to think "not using radio" is some kind of advancement of the art of "using radio" ... only one actually seems to have ever used radio in the past year. Imagine my surprise. No, I didn't bother to check license databases or qrz.com or whatever to check whether the callsigns used by those posting "anti-ham-radio" posts were actually licensed. No, I will not divulge the callsign of the European ham who showed up in the DX spotting network (JA database) :-) -- ... Hank Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net |
"charlesb" wrote
My feeling is that "hams" who feel that using radio is a "restriction" should consider moving on to another hobby. ....and your feeling are somehow worthy of respect? |
"charlesb" wrote
My feeling is that "hams" who feel that using radio is a "restriction" should consider moving on to another hobby. ....and your feeling are somehow worthy of respect? |
In article ,
says... "Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote in message ... IRLP, as I see it, is just a way to get repeater linking done independent of the restrictions of site-based link transceivers. My feeling is that "hams" who feel that using radio is a "restriction" should consider moving on to another hobby. Tell you what, Charles. When you come up with a method for making a link transceiver pair operate reliably, over a single hop, from, say, Seattle, Washington to Pensacola, Florida, you go ahead and let us all know, OK? Heck, QST will probably be clamoring for the article on it. ;-) As for moving on... Naaah. I've been part of the ham radio scene since 1977. I'm having a blast with it, and I'm not about to stop any time soon. There's balance to be found in everything. IRLP has its place, as does Echolink, but they will never replace radio as a communications medium. They are merely new tools to increase the usability of the radio medium. Methinks a couple of passages from 'The Amateur's Code' are appropriate here. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Amateur is Progressive Keeping their station abreast of science. It is well-built and efficient, and ALL operating practice is above reproach. The Amateur is Friendly Slow and patient sending when requested, friendly advice and counsel to the beginner, kindly assistance, co-operation and consideration for the interests of others; these are marks of the amateur spirit. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Maybe you should have asked me what "restrictions" I was talking about before making snap assumptions, hmmmm? ;-) 73 de KC7GR -- Dr. Anton Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute (Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR) kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t c&o&m Motorola Radio Programming & Service Available - http://www.bluefeathertech.com/rf.html "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green) |
In article ,
says... "Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote in message ... IRLP, as I see it, is just a way to get repeater linking done independent of the restrictions of site-based link transceivers. My feeling is that "hams" who feel that using radio is a "restriction" should consider moving on to another hobby. Tell you what, Charles. When you come up with a method for making a link transceiver pair operate reliably, over a single hop, from, say, Seattle, Washington to Pensacola, Florida, you go ahead and let us all know, OK? Heck, QST will probably be clamoring for the article on it. ;-) As for moving on... Naaah. I've been part of the ham radio scene since 1977. I'm having a blast with it, and I'm not about to stop any time soon. There's balance to be found in everything. IRLP has its place, as does Echolink, but they will never replace radio as a communications medium. They are merely new tools to increase the usability of the radio medium. Methinks a couple of passages from 'The Amateur's Code' are appropriate here. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Amateur is Progressive Keeping their station abreast of science. It is well-built and efficient, and ALL operating practice is above reproach. The Amateur is Friendly Slow and patient sending when requested, friendly advice and counsel to the beginner, kindly assistance, co-operation and consideration for the interests of others; these are marks of the amateur spirit. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Maybe you should have asked me what "restrictions" I was talking about before making snap assumptions, hmmmm? ;-) 73 de KC7GR -- Dr. Anton Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute (Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR) kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t c&o&m Motorola Radio Programming & Service Available - http://www.bluefeathertech.com/rf.html "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green) |
"Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote
In short: IRLP has its uses, but it will never replace true radio work. IRLP is radio hooked to a network. It's the future of public service and emergency communications. There is no radio manufacturer in the commercial world who doesn't believe in network radio linking. Hams should get onboard rather than fight it. This is the 21st Century. |
"Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote
In short: IRLP has its uses, but it will never replace true radio work. IRLP is radio hooked to a network. It's the future of public service and emergency communications. There is no radio manufacturer in the commercial world who doesn't believe in network radio linking. Hams should get onboard rather than fight it. This is the 21st Century. |
"Hank Oredson" wrote
I've done a bit of research over the past year. Notes are in a folder in the left-hand desk drawer. If you want to see them you have to come visit. Valuable research I'm sure... Pretty simple to check the callsigns (where the poster actually admits to having a callsign) against databases like the DX spotting networks. What's a DX spotting network? I don't do contests, so I'm kind of ignorant about being a paper hanger. |
"Hank Oredson" wrote
I've done a bit of research over the past year. Notes are in a folder in the left-hand desk drawer. If you want to see them you have to come visit. Valuable research I'm sure... Pretty simple to check the callsigns (where the poster actually admits to having a callsign) against databases like the DX spotting networks. What's a DX spotting network? I don't do contests, so I'm kind of ignorant about being a paper hanger. |
"Hank Oredson" wrote
I really do get a kick out of those who think that NOT using radio is somehow progress in the USE of radio! The display of ignorance is quite amazing. I can think of 41 synonyms to describe your position. Entry: dogmatic Function: adjective Definition: opinionated Synonyms: arbitrary, arrogant, assertive, bigoted, bullheaded, categorical, cocksure, confident, definite, despotic, determined, dictative, doctrinaire, domineering, downright, egotistical, emphatic, fanatical, fascistic, formal, iceman, imperious, intolerant, magisterial, narrow-minded, obdurate, obstinate, one-sided, oracular, overbearing, peremptory, pigheaded, prejudiced, red neck, stiff-necked, stubborn, stupid, tenacious, tyrannical, unequivocal, wrong-headed Antonyms: amenable, flexible, liberal-minded, open-minded, questioning, tolerant Concept: personality quality Source: Roget's Interactive Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.0.0) Copyright © 2003 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved. |
"Hank Oredson" wrote
I really do get a kick out of those who think that NOT using radio is somehow progress in the USE of radio! The display of ignorance is quite amazing. I can think of 41 synonyms to describe your position. Entry: dogmatic Function: adjective Definition: opinionated Synonyms: arbitrary, arrogant, assertive, bigoted, bullheaded, categorical, cocksure, confident, definite, despotic, determined, dictative, doctrinaire, domineering, downright, egotistical, emphatic, fanatical, fascistic, formal, iceman, imperious, intolerant, magisterial, narrow-minded, obdurate, obstinate, one-sided, oracular, overbearing, peremptory, pigheaded, prejudiced, red neck, stiff-necked, stubborn, stupid, tenacious, tyrannical, unequivocal, wrong-headed Antonyms: amenable, flexible, liberal-minded, open-minded, questioning, tolerant Concept: personality quality Source: Roget's Interactive Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.0.0) Copyright © 2003 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved. |
DX spotting networks are via packet radio or over the internet with telnet.
Hams around the world report other DX stations freq, mode, etc. Used to spot rare DX or during contests See URL for a sample: http://oh2aq.kolumbus.com/dxs/oldlook.html? Some discussions at URL: http://outadaloop.com/LIVE10.htm -- 73 From The Wilderness Keyboard ========================== "Gene Storey" wrote in message news:JEeCb.648$z74.287@okepread03... "Hank Oredson" wrote What's a DX spotting network? I don't do contests, so I'm kind of ignorant about being a paper hanger. |
DX spotting networks are via packet radio or over the internet with telnet.
Hams around the world report other DX stations freq, mode, etc. Used to spot rare DX or during contests See URL for a sample: http://oh2aq.kolumbus.com/dxs/oldlook.html? Some discussions at URL: http://outadaloop.com/LIVE10.htm -- 73 From The Wilderness Keyboard ========================== "Gene Storey" wrote in message news:JEeCb.648$z74.287@okepread03... "Hank Oredson" wrote What's a DX spotting network? I don't do contests, so I'm kind of ignorant about being a paper hanger. |
In article gpeCb.639$z74.427@okepread03, says...
"Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote In short: IRLP has its uses, but it will never replace true radio work. IRLP is radio hooked to a network. It's the future of public service and emergency communications. There is no radio manufacturer in the commercial world who doesn't believe in network radio linking. Hams should get onboard rather than fight it. This is the 21st Century. I never said I was fighting it. Heck, I'll probably IRLP-link my own repeater, once I get it set up. All I'm saying is that IRLP is simply another tool in the amateur's metaphorical toolbox, and not something to be feared or hated (as some obviously do). -- Dr. Anton Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute (Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR) kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t c&o&m Motorola Radio Programming & Service Available - http://www.bluefeathertech.com/rf.html "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green) |
In article gpeCb.639$z74.427@okepread03, says...
"Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote In short: IRLP has its uses, but it will never replace true radio work. IRLP is radio hooked to a network. It's the future of public service and emergency communications. There is no radio manufacturer in the commercial world who doesn't believe in network radio linking. Hams should get onboard rather than fight it. This is the 21st Century. I never said I was fighting it. Heck, I'll probably IRLP-link my own repeater, once I get it set up. All I'm saying is that IRLP is simply another tool in the amateur's metaphorical toolbox, and not something to be feared or hated (as some obviously do). -- Dr. Anton Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute (Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR) kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t c&o&m Motorola Radio Programming & Service Available - http://www.bluefeathertech.com/rf.html "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green) |
Sounds like cheating.
"Keyboard In The Wilderness" wrote DX spotting networks are via packet radio or over the internet with telnet. Hams around the world report other DX stations freq, mode, etc. Used to spot rare DX or during contests See URL for a sample: http://oh2aq.kolumbus.com/dxs/oldlook.html? Some discussions at URL: http://outadaloop.com/LIVE10.htm -- 73 From The Wilderness Keyboard ========================== "Gene Storey" wrote in message news:JEeCb.648$z74.287@okepread03... "Hank Oredson" wrote What's a DX spotting network? I don't do contests, so I'm kind of ignorant about being a paper hanger. |
Sounds like cheating.
"Keyboard In The Wilderness" wrote DX spotting networks are via packet radio or over the internet with telnet. Hams around the world report other DX stations freq, mode, etc. Used to spot rare DX or during contests See URL for a sample: http://oh2aq.kolumbus.com/dxs/oldlook.html? Some discussions at URL: http://outadaloop.com/LIVE10.htm -- 73 From The Wilderness Keyboard ========================== "Gene Storey" wrote in message news:JEeCb.648$z74.287@okepread03... "Hank Oredson" wrote What's a DX spotting network? I don't do contests, so I'm kind of ignorant about being a paper hanger. |
"Moron Gene Storey" wrote in message news:gpeCb.639$z74.427@okepread03... "Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote In short: IRLP has its uses, but it will never replace true radio work. IRLP is radio hooked to a network. It's the future of public service and emergency communications. There is no radio manufacturer in the commercial world who doesn't believe in network radio linking. Hams should get onboard rather than fight it. This is the 21st Century. Yeah, riiiight. They really proved EchoLink and IRLP's worth during the northeast blackout a month or so back. First, the non-ham stuff became grossly overcongested because they had idiots trying to "help" from all over the planet at once. Then, they both simply shut down as Internet access went away. - Leaving hams using ham radio to handle the emergency when the non-ham stuff went belly-up, as usual. The loss of Internet access would have shut them down, but it was too late... They had already shut themselves down through overcongestion before it had a chance to. "Future of public service and emergency communications"... Haw hawr! Good one, Gene! Charles Brabham, N5PVL Director: USPacket.Net http://www.uspacket.net |
"Moron Gene Storey" wrote in message news:gpeCb.639$z74.427@okepread03... "Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote In short: IRLP has its uses, but it will never replace true radio work. IRLP is radio hooked to a network. It's the future of public service and emergency communications. There is no radio manufacturer in the commercial world who doesn't believe in network radio linking. Hams should get onboard rather than fight it. This is the 21st Century. Yeah, riiiight. They really proved EchoLink and IRLP's worth during the northeast blackout a month or so back. First, the non-ham stuff became grossly overcongested because they had idiots trying to "help" from all over the planet at once. Then, they both simply shut down as Internet access went away. - Leaving hams using ham radio to handle the emergency when the non-ham stuff went belly-up, as usual. The loss of Internet access would have shut them down, but it was too late... They had already shut themselves down through overcongestion before it had a chance to. "Future of public service and emergency communications"... Haw hawr! Good one, Gene! Charles Brabham, N5PVL Director: USPacket.Net http://www.uspacket.net |
That's right Gene... When the facts do not support your pet position or
protocol, you can always go for the mindless personal attacks. Charles Brabham, N5PVL Director: USPacket.Net http://www.uspacket.net "Gene Storey" wrote in message news:tOeCb.658$z74.165@okepread03... "Hank Oredson" wrote I really do get a kick out of those who think that NOT using radio is somehow progress in the USE of radio! The display of ignorance is quite amazing. I can think of 41 synonyms to describe your position. Entry: dogmatic Function: adjective Definition: opinionated Synonyms: arbitrary, arrogant, assertive, bigoted, bullheaded, categorical, cocksure, confident, definite, despotic, determined, dictative, doctrinaire, domineering, downright, egotistical, emphatic, fanatical, fascistic, formal, iceman, imperious, intolerant, magisterial, narrow-minded, obdurate, obstinate, one-sided, oracular, overbearing, peremptory, pigheaded, prejudiced, red neck, stiff-necked, stubborn, stupid, tenacious, tyrannical, unequivocal, wrong-headed Antonyms: amenable, flexible, liberal-minded, open-minded, questioning, tolerant Concept: personality quality Source: Roget's Interactive Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.0.0) Copyright © 2003 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved. |
That's right Gene... When the facts do not support your pet position or
protocol, you can always go for the mindless personal attacks. Charles Brabham, N5PVL Director: USPacket.Net http://www.uspacket.net "Gene Storey" wrote in message news:tOeCb.658$z74.165@okepread03... "Hank Oredson" wrote I really do get a kick out of those who think that NOT using radio is somehow progress in the USE of radio! The display of ignorance is quite amazing. I can think of 41 synonyms to describe your position. Entry: dogmatic Function: adjective Definition: opinionated Synonyms: arbitrary, arrogant, assertive, bigoted, bullheaded, categorical, cocksure, confident, definite, despotic, determined, dictative, doctrinaire, domineering, downright, egotistical, emphatic, fanatical, fascistic, formal, iceman, imperious, intolerant, magisterial, narrow-minded, obdurate, obstinate, one-sided, oracular, overbearing, peremptory, pigheaded, prejudiced, red neck, stiff-necked, stubborn, stupid, tenacious, tyrannical, unequivocal, wrong-headed Antonyms: amenable, flexible, liberal-minded, open-minded, questioning, tolerant Concept: personality quality Source: Roget's Interactive Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.0.0) Copyright © 2003 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved. |
"charlesb" wrote
That's right Gene... When the facts do not support your pet position or protocol, you can always go for the mindless personal attacks. Unlike yourself, of course. I predict that in 2004, a manufacturer will produce a ham radio that has a built-in network Wi-Fi and that's how you will control the radio, and pass audio to it. It will either be a proprietary application, or you will use a Netmeeting type of vocoder software. |
"charlesb" wrote
That's right Gene... When the facts do not support your pet position or protocol, you can always go for the mindless personal attacks. Unlike yourself, of course. I predict that in 2004, a manufacturer will produce a ham radio that has a built-in network Wi-Fi and that's how you will control the radio, and pass audio to it. It will either be a proprietary application, or you will use a Netmeeting type of vocoder software. |
In article gDwCb.1580$z74.949@okepread03, says...
"charlesb" wrote That's right Gene... When the facts do not support your pet position or protocol, you can always go for the mindless personal attacks. Unlike yourself, of course. I predict that in 2004, a manufacturer will produce a ham radio that has a built-in network Wi-Fi and that's how you will control the radio, and pass audio to it. It will either be a proprietary application, or you will use a Netmeeting type of vocoder software. That's going a little too far. I would never buy such a device. -- Dr. Anton Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute (Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR) kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t c&o&m Motorola Radio Programming & Service Available - http://www.bluefeathertech.com/rf.html "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green) |
In article gDwCb.1580$z74.949@okepread03, says...
"charlesb" wrote That's right Gene... When the facts do not support your pet position or protocol, you can always go for the mindless personal attacks. Unlike yourself, of course. I predict that in 2004, a manufacturer will produce a ham radio that has a built-in network Wi-Fi and that's how you will control the radio, and pass audio to it. It will either be a proprietary application, or you will use a Netmeeting type of vocoder software. That's going a little too far. I would never buy such a device. -- Dr. Anton Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute (Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR) kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t c&o&m Motorola Radio Programming & Service Available - http://www.bluefeathertech.com/rf.html "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green) |
As in most new developments there are some who cling to the old true and
tried way...you know the biggest obstacle to progress is resistance to change. It's not just in basic things but it's true in science as well as just trying to get an employee to do a task in a production area different than the way he has been doing it for years. Now, you argue that using echolink is not using HAM radio...I beg to differ. Just this morning while sitting at my computer I had a little rag chew with one gentlemen in Tucson who was walking around with his HT...was he using HAM radio....was I using HAM radio....was it pure HAM radio....the answer to the first two questions is yes and the answer to the last is NO. It was a marriage of HAM radio with the net. My opinion is that we will see much more progress in this area. I guess another question to you is when I use one of those silver box sets from Kenwood, which has the circuits of the transceiver built into the silver box but no external controls....I have to use the computer to control the silver box...is that HAM radio? 73 Ray Herron WA0LQT "Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote in message ... In article , says... Charles, I see that you don't much care for progress....or are you just always ornery...bet those who used smoke signals felt the same way when more modern forms of communication came along. snippety As ornery as Charles' reply was (yes, it could have been phrased much better) he does have one valid point: 'Internet' and 'Ham Radio' are two entirely different mediums. Always have been, always will be. IRLP, as I see it, is just a way to get repeater linking done independent of the restrictions of site-based link transceivers. After all, the 'L' in IRLP does stand for 'Linking.' In short: IRLP has its uses, but it will never replace true radio work. -- Dr. Anton Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute (Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR) kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t c&o&m Motorola Radio Programming & Service Available - http://www.bluefeathertech.com/rf.html "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green) |
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