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"Charlie" wrote in message
... Our insurance man has added the structure to our list of covered items in our policy so evidently it was OK for coverage. Unfortunately, your local agent will have little or no input into any damage or property loss claim that you may make -- that is the adjusters and claim reps -- a whole another breed of cat (and not the domestic kind). If you get into personal injury or loss of life - it gets complicated very quickly. Fortunate that you don't have close neighbors. gb |
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Unfortunately, your local agent will have little or no input into any damage
or property loss claim that you may make -- that is the adjusters and claim reps -- a whole another breed of cat (and not the domestic kind). If you get into personal injury or loss of life - it gets complicated very quickly. Fortunate that you don't have close neighbors. gb Yep underwriters are more than willing to add things to make more bucks. Getting the claim later is an all together another proposition. |
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If an agent, a representative of an insurance company, sells and the company
accepts a property then anything that happens (if fortuitous, or accidental) to that property is covered as long as it falls within the policy language, perils insured against and property covered. The company can't come back AFTER a loss and deny payment because of something not defined in the policy. They can't just make it up after the fact. 73 "Rick Scott" wrote in message ... Unfortunately, your local agent will have little or no input into any damage or property loss claim that you may make -- that is the adjusters and claim reps -- a whole another breed of cat (and not the domestic kind). If you get into personal injury or loss of life - it gets complicated very quickly. Fortunate that you don't have close neighbors. gb Yep underwriters are more than willing to add things to make more bucks. Getting the claim later is an all together another proposition. |
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"John" wrote in message news:Wkmye.61939$%Z2.8135@lakeread08... If an agent, a representative of an insurance company, sells and the company accepts a property then anything that happens (if fortuitous, or accidental) to that property is covered as long as it falls within the policy language, perils insured against and property covered. The company can't come back AFTER a loss and deny payment because of something not defined in the policy. They can't just make it up after the fact. 73 I'll bet that there's "language in the policy" that is sufficiently vague and flexible such that the company can stretch a loophole for anything that it wants. Maybe I'm too paranoid, but the insurance company expects that an insured property is a normal and typical example of materials and construction, and that due care was applied to the design. Further, the property should be in compliance with local existing building codes and standards. If you wired half your house with lamp cord, never got a permit, and have no record of inspection, do you think the company agent should know this by himself? If the loss is big enough, and especially if there's some unusual circumstances (fire inspector's report, neighbor's claims), then the company's lawyers have plenty of room to work in. You may have the utmost confidence in your own workmanship, but, if the insurance company is trying to avoid a $500k claim, all they have to do is say "no." So then what happens? You take the insurance company to court, and they ask you about your experience in soils engineering, concrete construction, structural engineering, calculation of wind loading, welding certifications, experience with lightning protection, etc. They will cut you up into very small pieces. Everything unusual about your property should be defined, and if your agent is still eager to sell you a policy despite your "creative engineering", then I would start to wonder why the agent is so desperate to sell policies. -- Ed WB6WSN El Cajon, CA USA |
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"Ed Price" wrote in message
news:Ifpye.27243$ro.18610@fed1read02... "John" wrote in message news:Wkmye.61939$%Z2.8135@lakeread08... If an agent, a representative of an insurance company, sells and the company accepts a property then anything that happens (if fortuitous, or accidental) to that property is covered as long as it falls within the policy language, perils insured against and property covered. The company can't come back AFTER a loss and deny payment because of something not defined in the policy. They can't just make it up after the fact. 73 I'll bet that there's "language in the policy" that is sufficiently vague and flexible such that the company can stretch a loophole for anything that it wants. Maybe I'm too paranoid, but the insurance company expects that an insured property is a normal and typical example of materials and construction, and that due care was applied to the design. Further, the property should be in compliance with local existing building codes and standards. If you wired half your house with lamp cord, never got a permit, and have no record of inspection, do you think the company agent should know this by himself? If the loss is big enough, and especially if there's some unusual circumstances (fire inspector's report, neighbor's claims), then the company's lawyers have plenty of room to work in. You may have the utmost confidence in your own workmanship, but, if the insurance company is trying to avoid a $500k claim, all they have to do is say "no." So then what happens? You take the insurance company to court, and they ask you about your experience in soils engineering, concrete construction, structural engineering, calculation of wind loading, welding certifications, experience with lightning protection, etc. They will cut you up into very small pieces. Everything unusual about your property should be defined, and if your agent is still eager to sell you a policy despite your "creative engineering", then I would start to wonder why the agent is so desperate to sell policies. Um ... let me guess ... you don't carry a general liability rider? Or if you do, you were not careful to read the details? They are not expensive, and will cover anything ... and can even cover intentional neglegence by the owner. Every ham with a tower (or a pool, or horses, or a big dog, or ...) should have one. -- ... Hank http://home.earthlink.net/~horedson http://home.earthlink.net/~w0rli |
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Hank Oredson wrote: "Ed Price" wrote in message news:Ifpye.27243$ro.18610@fed1read02... "John" wrote in message news:Wkmye.61939$%Z2.8135@lakeread08... If an agent, a representative of an insurance company, sells and the company accepts a property then anything that happens (if fortuitous, or accidental) to that property is covered as long as it falls within the policy language, perils insured against and property covered. The company can't come back AFTER a loss and deny payment because of something not defined in the policy. They can't just make it up after the fact. 73 I'll bet that there's "language in the policy" that is sufficiently vague and flexible such that the company can stretch a loophole for anything that it wants. Maybe I'm too paranoid, but the insurance company expects that an insured property is a normal and typical example of materials and construction, and that due care was applied to the design. Further, the property should be in compliance with local existing building codes and standards. If you wired half your house with lamp cord, never got a permit, and have no record of inspection, do you think the company agent should know this by himself? If the loss is big enough, and especially if there's some unusual circumstances (fire inspector's report, neighbor's claims), then the company's lawyers have plenty of room to work in. You may have the utmost confidence in your own workmanship, but, if the insurance company is trying to avoid a $500k claim, all they have to do is say "no." So then what happens? You take the insurance company to court, and they ask you about your experience in soils engineering, concrete construction, structural engineering, calculation of wind loading, welding certifications, experience with lightning protection, etc. They will cut you up into very small pieces. Everything unusual about your property should be defined, and if your agent is still eager to sell you a policy despite your "creative engineering", then I would start to wonder why the agent is so desperate to sell policies. Um ... let me guess ... you don't carry a general liability rider? Or if you do, you were not careful to read the details? They are not expensive, and will cover anything ... and can even cover intentional neglegence by the owner. Every ham with a tower (or a pool, or horses, or a big dog, or ...) should have one. Yes but you need everything first insurance with one company and then at the maximum but the minimums. You pay dearly for a general liability rider if you take it all into account. Yes you are protected. |
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"Ron" wrote in message ... Hank Oredson wrote: "Ed Price" wrote in message news:Ifpye.27243$ro.18610@fed1read02... "John" wrote in message news:Wkmye.61939$%Z2.8135@lakeread08... If an agent, a representative of an insurance company, sells and the company accepts a property then anything that happens (if fortuitous, or accidental) to that property is covered as long as it falls within the policy language, perils insured against and property covered. The company can't come back AFTER a loss and deny payment because of something not defined in the policy. They can't just make it up after the fact. 73 I'll bet that there's "language in the policy" that is sufficiently vague and flexible such that the company can stretch a loophole for anything that it wants. Maybe I'm too paranoid, but the insurance company expects that an insured property is a normal and typical example of materials and construction, and that due care was applied to the design. Further, the property should be in compliance with local existing building codes and standards. If you wired half your house with lamp cord, never got a permit, and have no record of inspection, do you think the company agent should know this by himself? If the loss is big enough, and especially if there's some unusual circumstances (fire inspector's report, neighbor's claims), then the company's lawyers have plenty of room to work in. You may have the utmost confidence in your own workmanship, but, if the insurance company is trying to avoid a $500k claim, all they have to do is say "no." So then what happens? You take the insurance company to court, and they ask you about your experience in soils engineering, concrete construction, structural engineering, calculation of wind loading, welding certifications, experience with lightning protection, etc. They will cut you up into very small pieces. Everything unusual about your property should be defined, and if your agent is still eager to sell you a policy despite your "creative engineering", then I would start to wonder why the agent is so desperate to sell policies. Um ... let me guess ... you don't carry a general liability rider? Or if you do, you were not careful to read the details? They are not expensive, and will cover anything ... and can even cover intentional neglegence by the owner. Every ham with a tower (or a pool, or horses, or a big dog, or ...) should have one. Yes but you need everything first insurance with one company and then at the maximum but the minimums. You pay dearly for a general liability rider if you take it all into account. Yes you are protected. Hank, those general riders are expensive, and no, I don't have one. OTOH, I am not erecting a 75' tower, made with two dissimilar structural systems, joined together by amateur engineering and welding, a very minimal concrete base, and held in place with guy wires running to nearby trees and an illegal encroachment onto someone else's property. The OP wanted our opinion of his efforts; he got 'em. The extent of my insurance coverage has absolutely no bearing on the subject of AD5TH's tower project. -- Ed WB6WSN El Cajon, CA USA |
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Hank Oredson wrote:
Um ... let me guess ... you don't carry a general liability rider? Or if you do, you were not careful to read the details? They are not expensive, and will cover anything ... and can even cover intentional neglegence by the owner. Every ham with a tower (or a pool, or horses, or a big dog, or ...) should have one. .... or kids. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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John (nospam) wrote: If an agent, a representative of an insurance company, sells and the company accepts a property then anything that happens (if fortuitous, or accidental) to that property is covered as long as it falls within the policy language, perils insured against and property covered. The company can't come back AFTER a loss and deny payment because of something not defined in the policy. They can't just make it up after the fact. sadly they can try and then it becomes a matter of Lawyers and the roullete game that involves 73 "Rick Scott" wrote in message ... Unfortunately, your local agent will have little or no input into any damage or property loss claim that you may make -- that is the adjusters and claim reps -- a whole another breed of cat (and not the domestic kind). If you get into personal injury or loss of life - it gets complicated very quickly. Fortunate that you don't have close neighbors. gb Yep underwriters are more than willing to add things to make more bucks. Getting the claim later is an all together another proposition. |
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Your trees will SNAP and your tower will fall down.
Sure, your antenna have little wind load, however, how much wind load is the TOWER ? Please inventory your gear for the ESTATE sale ! Luke Yes trees do sway but as the photos show they don't sway where the guys are attached. |
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