On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:04:24 +0000, Walt Davidson
wrote (with possible editing):

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 03:15:01 GMT, "David Thompson"
wrote:

....snip

It's not so long ago that the USA had a list of "banned countries"
that USA radio amateurs were forbidded to communicate with.

73 de G3NYY

That's news to me. We had a list of countries with whom we were not
allowed to pass third party traffic, but those came about because the
banned countries prohibited third party traffic. I've been licensed
continuously since 1954, I may have missed this so-called ban, but I
don't think so. No flame,
--

73,
Larry W1HJF

L. M. Rappaport wrote:
It's not so long ago that the USA had a list of "banned countries"
that USA radio amateurs were forbidded to communicate with.

That's news to me. We had a list of countries with whom we were not
allowed to pass third party traffic, but those came about because the
banned countries prohibited third party traffic. I've been licensed
continuously since 1954, I may have missed this so-called ban, but I
don't think so. No flame,

The list was -- and is -- for real.
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_20...7cfr97.111.htm

FCC regulation 97.111(a)(1) which states in part:
"(a) An amateur station may transmit the following types of two-way
communications:
(1) Transmissions necessary to exchange messages with other stations
in the amateur service, except those in any country whose administration
has given notice that it objects to such communications. The FCC will
issue public notices of current arrangements for international
communications;"

So the banned list actually still exists, just that it's empty as no
administration has currently notified the FCC that it objects to amateur
communications with the USA.

ISTR when I got my first license in 1973 there were three countries on
the banned list. North Korea and China were two, I forget who the third
was. In any case there were no ham stations in any of the listed
countries so the FCC regulation really had no effect...
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:36:14 GMT, Doug Smith W9WI
wrote:

L. M. Rappaport wrote:
It's not so long ago that the USA had a list of "banned countries"
that USA radio amateurs were forbidded to communicate with.

That's news to me. We had a list of countries with whom we were not
allowed to pass third party traffic, but those came about because the
banned countries prohibited third party traffic. I've been licensed
continuously since 1954, I may have missed this so-called ban, but I
don't think so. No flame,

The list was -- and is -- for real.
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_20...7cfr97.111.htm

FCC regulation 97.111(a)(1) which states in part:
"(a) An amateur station may transmit the following types of two-way
communications:
(1) Transmissions necessary to exchange messages with other stations
in the amateur service, except those in any country whose administration
has given notice that it objects to such communications. The FCC will
issue public notices of current arrangements for international
communications;"

So the banned list actually still exists, just that it's empty as no
administration has currently notified the FCC that it objects to amateur
communications with the USA.

ISTR when I got my first license in 1973 there were three countries on
the banned list. North Korea and China were two, I forget who the third
was. In any case there were no ham stations in any of the listed
countries so the FCC regulation really had no effect...

On a marginally related note, when I was employed at a defense
contractor, some years ago, the countries of the Soviet Union, China,
etc, were called "designated countries."

We were supposed to report any contact with citizens of those
countries to our Security office. I had a friend in the office and I
asked him once whether I had to report every QSO I had with UA, etc.

He said, no, only if you discuss where you work or what you do, with
him. I said, fine, but what happens when I have just had a QSO with
someone else, with whom such conversations are not banned and the UA
was listening and breaks in.

He grumbled and told me to go away.

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:36:14 +0000, Doug Smith W9WI wrote:


ISTR when I got my first license in 1973 there were three countries on
the banned list. North Korea and China were two, I forget who the third
was. In any case there were no ham stations in any of the listed
countries so the FCC regulation really had no effect...

Possibly Albania?

Bob, N7XY

Bob Nielsen wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:36:14 +0000, Doug Smith W9WI wrote:
ISTR when I got my first license in 1973 there were three countries on
the banned list. North Korea and China were two, I forget who the third
was. In any case there were no ham stations in any of the listed
countries so the FCC regulation really had no effect...

Possibly Albania?


Yeah, that was probably it...

--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm

It was Viet Nam (or possibly North Viet Nam) where the US was involved
in another military fiasco.




On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:34:54 -0800, Bob Nielsen
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:36:14 +0000, Doug Smith W9WI wrote:


ISTR when I got my first license in 1973 there were three countries on
the banned list. North Korea and China were two, I forget who the third
was. In any case there were no ham stations in any of the listed
countries so the FCC regulation really had no effect...

Possibly Albania?

Bob, N7XY

"L. M. Rappaport" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:04:24 +0000, Walt Davidson
wrote (with possible editing):

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 03:15:01 GMT, "David Thompson"
wrote:

...snip

It's not so long ago that the USA had a list of "banned countries"
that USA radio amateurs were forbidded to communicate with.

73 de G3NYY

That's news to me. We had a list of countries with whom we were not
allowed to pass third party traffic, but those came about because the
banned countries prohibited third party traffic. I've been licensed
continuously since 1954, I may have missed this so-called ban, but I
don't think so. No flame,
--

73,
Larry W1HJF


We most certainly DID have a banned country list. Off the top of my head I
remember the following;

CUBA
Vietnam
China
etc. etc.

Dan/W4NTI

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:52:55 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI"
wrote:


"L. M. Rappaport" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:04:24 +0000, Walt Davidson
wrote (with possible editing):

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 03:15:01 GMT, "David Thompson"
wrote:

...snip

It's not so long ago that the USA had a list of "banned countries"
that USA radio amateurs were forbidded to communicate with.

73 de G3NYY

That's news to me. We had a list of countries with whom we were not
allowed to pass third party traffic, but those came about because the
banned countries prohibited third party traffic. I've been licensed
continuously since 1954, I may have missed this so-called ban, but I
don't think so. No flame,
--

73,
Larry W1HJF


We most certainly DID have a banned country list. Off the top of my head I
remember the following;

CUBA
Vietnam
China
etc. etc.

Dan/W4NTI


Dan,
You are correct. I remember, too. Boy, I must be getting old...
BTW, Dave, JRB, 4X is spelled IsrAEl.
73,
Barry W2UP
--
Note - Remove the X from my e-mail address for direct replies

We most certainly DID have a banned country list. Off the top of my head I
remember the following;

CUBA
Vietnam
China
etc. etc.

Dan/W4NTI[/quote]

Cuba has never been on the banned list

the list of countries that are/were banned
are/were at the request of the banned country

example Republic of South Viet Nam did not allow amateur radio
south viet nam was on the banned list at the request
of the south vietnamese goverment

mac w8znx

"de Mac" wrote in message
...

We most certainly DID have a banned country list. Off the top of my
head I
remember the following;

CUBA
Vietnam
China
etc. etc.

Dan/W4NTI

Cuba has never been on the banned list

the list of countries that are/were banned
are/were at the request of the banned country

example Republic of South Viet Nam did not allow amateur radio
south viet nam was on the banned list at the request
of the south vietnamese goverment

mac w8znx


--
de Mac

I did say "off the top of my head". I didn't think it was worth my effort
to look it up.

Dan/W4NTI