On 18 Apr 2006 18:15:44 GMT, Fabian Kurz wrote:

Doug Smith W9WI wrote:
VU4AN/VU3DYC (I've probably screwed that up, it's written down in the
other room)

At least you got it right in your log. I bet a high percentage of
"DXers" who just copied the call from DX-cluster (amazing number
of busted calls there!) will get their QSL back, "not in log".

pretty loud on 20cw this morning. Too much of a madhouse to
work though.

Worked the DL7DF-group on 17m CW today (all time new one) during
a short break at university (hooray for campus clubstation!),
quite easy from Europe.

You're going to count this as your own?

Wes Stewart wrote:
Worked the DL7DF-group on 17m CW today (all time new one) during
a short break at university (hooray for campus clubstation!),
quite easy from Europe.

You're going to count this as your own?

Yep. It was made using my own callsigns, which is perfectly legal
here. I know there have been some debates about the validity or
'ethicality' of this kind of contacts, but I personally feel it's
absolutely OK. It also conforms to DXCC rules, which say:

,----[ Section I. Basic Rules ]----------------------------------
| Contacts may be made from other stations provided they are
| personally made by the licensee.
`----------------------------------------------------------------

YMMV.. 73,
--
Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/
Online Log: http://dl0tud.tu-dresden.de/~dj1yfk/log.html

Fabian Kurz wrote:
You're going to count this as your own?

Yep. It was made using my own callsigns, which is perfectly legal
here. I know there have been some debates about the validity or
'ethicality' of this kind of contacts, but I personally feel it's
absolutely OK. It also conforms to DXCC rules, which say:

This was frequently done at the University of Wisconsin back in the
1970s as well. Most of these operators didn't have their own stations -
or those stations consisted solely of 2m gear - so if you didn't work
the DX from the club station, you weren't going to work it at all.

We did consider it bad form to work a DXpedition with your own call if
the club still needed it on that band/mode. (i.e., you worked it with
the club call first)
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

On 18 Apr 2006 21:44:32 GMT, Fabian Kurz wrote:

Wes Stewart wrote:
Worked the DL7DF-group on 17m CW today (all time new one) during
a short break at university (hooray for campus clubstation!),
quite easy from Europe.

You're going to count this as your own?

Yep. It was made using my own callsigns, which is perfectly legal
here. I know there have been some debates about the validity or
'ethicality' of this kind of contacts, but I personally feel it's
absolutely OK. It also conforms to DXCC rules, which say:

,----[ Section I. Basic Rules ]----------------------------------
| Contacts may be made from other stations provided they are
| personally made by the licensee.
`----------------------------------------------------------------

You left this part out:

"Contacts made from club stations using a club callsign may not be
used for credit to an individual's DXCC."

Your rules appear to be different but in the US the call sign is
assigned to the "station", not the individual and the station call is
what should be used.

A few years ago I operated W1AW but I sure wouldn't claim those QSOs
as my own for DXCC purposes since I identified as W1AW, not N7WS.

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 06:41:27 -0700, Wes Stewart
wrote:

On 18 Apr 2006 21:44:32 GMT, Fabian Kurz wrote:

Wes Stewart wrote:
Worked the DL7DF-group on 17m CW today (all time new one) during
a short break at university (hooray for campus clubstation!),
quite easy from Europe.

You're going to count this as your own?

Yep. It was made using my own callsigns, which is perfectly legal
here. I know there have been some debates about the validity or
'ethicality' of this kind of contacts, but I personally feel it's
absolutely OK. It also conforms to DXCC rules, which say:

,----[ Section I. Basic Rules ]----------------------------------
| Contacts may be made from other stations provided they are
| personally made by the licensee.
`----------------------------------------------------------------

You left this part out:

"Contacts made from club stations using a club callsign may not be
used for credit to an individual's DXCC."

wasn't relavant he was using his call as stated
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:56:17 -0400, Markie the tech wrote:

wasn't (sic) relavant (sic) he was using his call as stated (sic)


Please don't try to correct me unless you learn to spell and form
complete sentences.

I understood completely that he was using his own call.

That would be where I said, "Your rules appear to be different but in
the US the call sign is assigned to the "station", not the individual
and the station call is what should be used."

And don't selectively delete things to make a dip**** point.

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:35:34 -0700, Wes Stewart
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:56:17 -0400, Markie the tech wrote:

wasn't (sic) relavant (sic) he was using his call as stated (sic)


Please don't try to correct me unless you learn to spell and form
complete sentences.
your request it refused esp as you decided to go on in your reply to
lie about what I said
as you do in the following line
And don't selectively delete things to make a dip**** point.


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Wes Stewart wrote:
Fabian Kurz wrote:
Yep. It was made using my own callsign, which is perfectly legal
^^^^^^^^^^^^
You left this part out:

"Contacts made from club stations using a club callsign may not be
used for credit to an individual's DXCC."

Again: I made the QSO using my own personal callsign (DJ1YFK),
not with the clubstation callsign.

Your rules appear to be different but in the US the call sign is
assigned to the "station", not the individual and the station call is
what should be used.

Yes. In DL the callsign is assigned to an individual, no matter
from where it's used.

A few years ago I operated W1AW but I sure wouldn't claim those QSOs
as my own for DXCC purposes since I identified as W1AW, not N7WS.

Same here with my numerous recent activities where I was actually
using a club-call (like DM1A WAE CW, DP4T CQWW CW, DP4K RUDX, all M/S).
That would have added a *lot* of new bandpoints, if it was credited
to my own callsign.

73,
--
Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/
Online Log: http://dl0tud.tu-dresden.de/~dj1yfk/log.html

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On 18 Apr 2006 21:44:32 GMT, Fabian Kurz wrote:

Wes Stewart wrote:
Worked the DL7DF-group on 17m CW today (all time new one) during
a short break at university (hooray for campus clubstation!),
quite easy from Europe.

You're going to count this as your own?

Yep. It was made using my own callsigns, which is perfectly legal
here. I know there have been some debates about the validity or
'ethicality' of this kind of contacts, but I personally feel it's
absolutely OK. It also conforms to DXCC rules, which say:

,----[ Section I. Basic Rules ]----------------------------------
| Contacts may be made from other stations provided they are
| personally made by the licensee.
`----------------------------------------------------------------

You left this part out:

"Contacts made from club stations using a club callsign may not be
used for credit to an individual's DXCC."

Your rules appear to be different but in the US the call sign is
assigned to the "station", not the individual and the station call is
what should be used.

Still the club can "loan" the station to an individual and that individual
can operate using their own call sign. It's basically a matter of club
policy whether or not you may use your own call sign on the club station.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:02:41 -0400, "Dee Flint"
wrote:


"Wes Stewart" wrote in message
.. .
On 18 Apr 2006 21:44:32 GMT, Fabian Kurz wrote:

Wes Stewart wrote:
Worked the DL7DF-group on 17m CW today (all time new one) during
a short break at university (hooray for campus clubstation!),
quite easy from Europe.

You're going to count this as your own?

Yep. It was made using my own callsigns, which is perfectly legal
here. I know there have been some debates about the validity or
'ethicality' of this kind of contacts, but I personally feel it's
absolutely OK. It also conforms to DXCC rules, which say:

,----[ Section I. Basic Rules ]----------------------------------
| Contacts may be made from other stations provided they are
| personally made by the licensee.
`----------------------------------------------------------------

You left this part out:

"Contacts made from club stations using a club callsign may not be
used for credit to an individual's DXCC."

Your rules appear to be different but in the US the call sign is
assigned to the "station", not the individual and the station call is
what should be used.

Still the club can "loan" the station to an individual and that individual
can operate using their own call sign. It's basically a matter of club
policy whether or not you may use your own call sign on the club station.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

amusing we find ourselves in agreement


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