On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:06:03 -0800, "USR1942(MC_CET)"
wrote:

Scouting and Radio trivia
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MCCET
PMTNPO


On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:58:39 GMT, "Phil Schuman"
wrote:

Wonder if there are any other Hams that have managed to take their rigs on a
Boy Scout campout and got the Scouts interested in Ham Radio, or even Morse
Code ? We have two Hams in our Troop, and we have thought about doing the
JOTA in October, along with dragging a rig to our indoor/cabin camping
weekends, and something during good weather. Also, what would be a good rig
to drag out to these camping events....

To some extent. I have taught Morse to Sea Scouts within the last five
or so years. But back up to 1957 when I was 15. I had been a ham in
Wisconsin for almost two years at the time and I was engaged to teach
Morse Code (and a few other scouting subjects) at the local scout
camp. I was also allowed to bring my ham stuff to the camp which I set
up in my Morse training area. It was an all CW station because that
was all I could afford back then...A Viking Adventurer and a
Hammarlund HQ-100 (my dad bought the receiver for me). If fact the
scout summer job was taken with the objective of earning enough money
to buy a phone rig kit which I did. I bought and built a Globe Scout
680, my first phone rig. I must have exposed a few scouts to ham
radio, and while I didn't get any immediate response, by the time I
was in college some of those scouts were of high school age and became
interested in ham radio. Some of them remembered me and there were a
couple of them to whom I gave Novice exams once I turned 21 as was the
practice at the time. I had the cost of the transmitter figured out to
a gnats eyelash. My salary for the camp session (my first job) plus
the trade in value of the Viking Adventurer was just enough to buy the
transmitter kit...about $90.00.

Jon Teske W3JT (I was K9CAH back then)

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:06:03 -0800, "USR1942(MC_CET)"
wrote:

Scouting and Radio trivia
http://www181.pair.com/otsw/Scouts/BSA02.jpg

MCCET
PMTNPO


On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:58:39 GMT, "Phil Schuman"
wrote:

Wonder if there are any other Hams that have managed to take their rigs on a
Boy Scout campout and got the Scouts interested in Ham Radio, or even Morse
Code ? We have two Hams in our Troop, and we have thought about doing the
JOTA in October, along with dragging a rig to our indoor/cabin camping
weekends, and something during good weather. Also, what would be a good rig
to drag out to these camping events....


In addition to my previous posting re my camp staff job teaching Morse
code, I would be remiss in this context if I did mention that the Boy
Scouts were directly responsible for my becoming a ham in the first
place. (And by extension my profession since I spent 35 years in the
field of radio-derived intelligence.)

By 1955 when I was 13, I had already learned the Morse Code somewhat
since that was a requirement in those days for a First Class rank
badge (you could optionally also use semiphore). I had not used it
very much though in the two years since I got my badge. I was at Scout
camp as a senior camper (e.g. I stayed at camps for five weeks, not
with my own unit except for the one week they were there.) That year
in August, our town had the last polio epidemic before the various
vaccines were available. Over 30 children in our town contracted the
disease and one of my junior high school friends was a fatality. Since
we at camp had no exposure to the disease, it was thought best to
extend the camp a couple of weeks (school opening was delayed) and
keep us at the camp. An older acquaintance of mine who I knew from
Junior High School had just gotten his Novice license was also there.
Since we were told not of over exert ourselves e.g. no swimming,
hiking, my friend asked me to help him with his Morse as he was trying
to get to the General Class level. So he refreshed my memory of the
code to the point that I could send and receive pretty close to the
five wpm. By the time school resumed in October, I knew code pretty
well, got the ARRL liscense manual and made acquaintance with my shop
teacher who I knew from his license plate was a ham. That teacher
coached me on the remaining requirements for a Novice ticket and set
up a station in his drafting classroom with some of his spare
equipment. He also coached me for the General test because in those
days an eighth grader did not have any algebra background to get
through the formulas on the General test.
The older scout (by two years) later became my best friend and mentor
through the next three years until he went away to West Point. He not
only got me into radio, but I did most of the extra curricular
activities he did in school.

Jon Teske W3JT

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:06:03 -0800, "USR1942(MC_CET)"
wrote:

Scouting and Radio trivia
http://www181.pair.com/otsw/Scouts/BSA02.jpg

MCCET
PMTNPO


On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:58:39 GMT, "Phil Schuman"
wrote:

Wonder if there are any other Hams that have managed to take their rigs on a
Boy Scout campout and got the Scouts interested in Ham Radio, or even Morse
Code ? We have two Hams in our Troop, and we have thought about doing the
JOTA in October, along with dragging a rig to our indoor/cabin camping
weekends, and something during good weather. Also, what would be a good rig
to drag out to these camping events....


In addition to my previous posting re my camp staff job teaching Morse
code, I would be remiss in this context if I did mention that the Boy
Scouts were directly responsible for my becoming a ham in the first
place. (And by extension my profession since I spent 35 years in the
field of radio-derived intelligence.)

By 1955 when I was 13, I had already learned the Morse Code somewhat
since that was a requirement in those days for a First Class rank
badge (you could optionally also use semiphore). I had not used it
very much though in the two years since I got my badge. I was at Scout
camp as a senior camper (e.g. I stayed at camps for five weeks, not
with my own unit except for the one week they were there.) That year
in August, our town had the last polio epidemic before the various
vaccines were available. Over 30 children in our town contracted the
disease and one of my junior high school friends was a fatality. Since
we at camp had no exposure to the disease, it was thought best to
extend the camp a couple of weeks (school opening was delayed) and
keep us at the camp. An older acquaintance of mine who I knew from
Junior High School had just gotten his Novice license was also there.
Since we were told not of over exert ourselves e.g. no swimming,
hiking, my friend asked me to help him with his Morse as he was trying
to get to the General Class level. So he refreshed my memory of the
code to the point that I could send and receive pretty close to the
five wpm. By the time school resumed in October, I knew code pretty
well, got the ARRL liscense manual and made acquaintance with my shop
teacher who I knew from his license plate was a ham. That teacher
coached me on the remaining requirements for a Novice ticket and set
up a station in his drafting classroom with some of his spare
equipment. He also coached me for the General test because in those
days an eighth grader did not have any algebra background to get
through the formulas on the General test.
The older scout (by two years) later became my best friend and mentor
through the next three years until he went away to West Point. He not
only got me into radio, but I did most of the extra curricular
activities he did in school.

Jon Teske W3JT

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:06:03 -0800, "USR1942(MC_CET)"
wrote:

Scouting and Radio trivia
http://www181.pair.com/otsw/Scouts/BSA02.jpg

MCCET
PMTNPO


On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:58:39 GMT, "Phil Schuman"
wrote:

Wonder if there are any other Hams that have managed to take their rigs on a
Boy Scout campout and got the Scouts interested in Ham Radio, or even Morse
Code ? We have two Hams in our Troop, and we have thought about doing the
JOTA in October, along with dragging a rig to our indoor/cabin camping
weekends, and something during good weather. Also, what would be a good rig
to drag out to these camping events....


In addition to my previous posting re my camp staff job teaching Morse
code, I would be remiss in this context if I did mention that the Boy
Scouts were directly responsible for my becoming a ham in the first
place. (And by extension my profession since I spent 35 years in the
field of radio-derived intelligence.)

By 1955 when I was 13, I had already learned the Morse Code somewhat
since that was a requirement in those days for a First Class rank
badge (you could optionally also use semiphore). I had not used it
very much though in the two years since I got my badge. I was at Scout
camp as a senior camper (e.g. I stayed at camps for five weeks, not
with my own unit except for the one week they were there.) That year
in August, our town had the last polio epidemic before the various
vaccines were available. Over 30 children in our town contracted the
disease and one of my junior high school friends was a fatality. Since
we at camp had no exposure to the disease, it was thought best to
extend the camp a couple of weeks (school opening was delayed) and
keep us at the camp. An older acquaintance of mine who I knew from
Junior High School had just gotten his Novice license was also there.
Since we were told not of over exert ourselves e.g. no swimming,
hiking, my friend asked me to help him with his Morse as he was trying
to get to the General Class level. So he refreshed my memory of the
code to the point that I could send and receive pretty close to the
five wpm. By the time school resumed in October, I knew code pretty
well, got the ARRL liscense manual and made acquaintance with my shop
teacher who I knew from his license plate was a ham. That teacher
coached me on the remaining requirements for a Novice ticket and set
up a station in his drafting classroom with some of his spare
equipment. He also coached me for the General test because in those
days an eighth grader did not have any algebra background to get
through the formulas on the General test.
The older scout (by two years) later became my best friend and mentor
through the next three years until he went away to West Point. He not
only got me into radio, but I did most of the extra curricular
activities he did in school.

Jon Teske W3JT

In our troop several years ago, some ASMs took a Council Wilderness First
Aid class, where a guest speaker talked about Ham Radio as an emergency
communication tool (i.e. emergency preparedness). Since here in New Mexico
we do a lot of Wilderness camping, but nearly the whole state can access a
statewide repeater network, it made sense to get some licenses in the troop
and a couple of ASMs did so. The utility of the Ham radios (2-m
handy-talkies) expanded into safe-calls home (via telephone auto-patches),
automobile convoy communication, ETA announcements for scout pickups after
campouts, keeping track of fishing parties and day hike groups on campouts,
etc. Ham radios (especially via repeaters) have substantially longer range
than the Family-service radios. (It was kind of cool to keep in touch with
our Philmont crew this summer and pass along trek status and stories to
parents.) Consequently, today about a dozen of our leaders and several of
their spouses have licenses and radios. A number of the Scouts themselves
have picked up on this to where several of them have licenses, too, and more
are pursuing one. We are now encouraging this (since about a year ago) with
a special patch awarded to Ham licensees designating them as Troop Radio
Operators. Their Ham Radios are the one piece of electronic gear that we
allow the scouts to bring on campouts. Some of the boys are even now
building their own antennas to enhance their radio's performance.

I believe the degree of our troop's involvement in Ham Radio is somewhat
unique in our Council, at least. But I believe it is a real success story.
Ham Radio and Scouting are a natural blend...

Armin

--
Armin Doerry, KD5ONO
Troop 409, Albuquerque, NM

===================
"Phil Schuman" wrote in message
. com...
Wonder if there are any other Hams that have managed to take their rigs on
a
Boy Scout campout and got the Scouts interested in Ham Radio, or even
Morse
Code ? We have two Hams in our Troop, and we have thought about doing the
JOTA in October, along with dragging a rig to our indoor/cabin camping
weekends, and something during good weather. Also, what would be a good
rig
to drag out to these camping events....

In our troop several years ago, some ASMs took a Council Wilderness First
Aid class, where a guest speaker talked about Ham Radio as an emergency
communication tool (i.e. emergency preparedness). Since here in New Mexico
we do a lot of Wilderness camping, but nearly the whole state can access a
statewide repeater network, it made sense to get some licenses in the troop
and a couple of ASMs did so. The utility of the Ham radios (2-m
handy-talkies) expanded into safe-calls home (via telephone auto-patches),
automobile convoy communication, ETA announcements for scout pickups after
campouts, keeping track of fishing parties and day hike groups on campouts,
etc. Ham radios (especially via repeaters) have substantially longer range
than the Family-service radios. (It was kind of cool to keep in touch with
our Philmont crew this summer and pass along trek status and stories to
parents.) Consequently, today about a dozen of our leaders and several of
their spouses have licenses and radios. A number of the Scouts themselves
have picked up on this to where several of them have licenses, too, and more
are pursuing one. We are now encouraging this (since about a year ago) with
a special patch awarded to Ham licensees designating them as Troop Radio
Operators. Their Ham Radios are the one piece of electronic gear that we
allow the scouts to bring on campouts. Some of the boys are even now
building their own antennas to enhance their radio's performance.

I believe the degree of our troop's involvement in Ham Radio is somewhat
unique in our Council, at least. But I believe it is a real success story.
Ham Radio and Scouting are a natural blend...

Armin

--
Armin Doerry, KD5ONO
Troop 409, Albuquerque, NM

===================
"Phil Schuman" wrote in message
. com...
Wonder if there are any other Hams that have managed to take their rigs on
a
Boy Scout campout and got the Scouts interested in Ham Radio, or even
Morse
Code ? We have two Hams in our Troop, and we have thought about doing the
JOTA in October, along with dragging a rig to our indoor/cabin camping
weekends, and something during good weather. Also, what would be a good
rig
to drag out to these camping events....

In our troop several years ago, some ASMs took a Council Wilderness First
Aid class, where a guest speaker talked about Ham Radio as an emergency
communication tool (i.e. emergency preparedness). Since here in New Mexico
we do a lot of Wilderness camping, but nearly the whole state can access a
statewide repeater network, it made sense to get some licenses in the troop
and a couple of ASMs did so. The utility of the Ham radios (2-m
handy-talkies) expanded into safe-calls home (via telephone auto-patches),
automobile convoy communication, ETA announcements for scout pickups after
campouts, keeping track of fishing parties and day hike groups on campouts,
etc. Ham radios (especially via repeaters) have substantially longer range
than the Family-service radios. (It was kind of cool to keep in touch with
our Philmont crew this summer and pass along trek status and stories to
parents.) Consequently, today about a dozen of our leaders and several of
their spouses have licenses and radios. A number of the Scouts themselves
have picked up on this to where several of them have licenses, too, and more
are pursuing one. We are now encouraging this (since about a year ago) with
a special patch awarded to Ham licensees designating them as Troop Radio
Operators. Their Ham Radios are the one piece of electronic gear that we
allow the scouts to bring on campouts. Some of the boys are even now
building their own antennas to enhance their radio's performance.

I believe the degree of our troop's involvement in Ham Radio is somewhat
unique in our Council, at least. But I believe it is a real success story.
Ham Radio and Scouting are a natural blend...

Armin

--
Armin Doerry, KD5ONO
Troop 409, Albuquerque, NM

===================
"Phil Schuman" wrote in message
. com...
Wonder if there are any other Hams that have managed to take their rigs on
a
Boy Scout campout and got the Scouts interested in Ham Radio, or even
Morse
Code ? We have two Hams in our Troop, and we have thought about doing the
JOTA in October, along with dragging a rig to our indoor/cabin camping
weekends, and something during good weather. Also, what would be a good
rig
to drag out to these camping events....

tnx for the list -
but the last time I had a low band rig was a HT40 and HQ-110
I really like the idea of small size, along with some 2m capability

What are the general comments about these rigs, and prices

tnx - Phil - WA9TKA

They all work and the differences are minor.
Some good buys:
Kenwood TS-120, 130, 140, TS-430 or TS-440
Icom IC-703, IC-735, 725, IC-706, IC-751
Yaesu FT-817, FT-100, FT-747, 757

tnx for the list -
but the last time I had a low band rig was a HT40 and HQ-110
I really like the idea of small size, along with some 2m capability

What are the general comments about these rigs, and prices

tnx - Phil - WA9TKA

They all work and the differences are minor.
Some good buys:
Kenwood TS-120, 130, 140, TS-430 or TS-440
Icom IC-703, IC-735, 725, IC-706, IC-751
Yaesu FT-817, FT-100, FT-747, 757

tnx for the list -
but the last time I had a low band rig was a HT40 and HQ-110
I really like the idea of small size, along with some 2m capability

What are the general comments about these rigs, and prices

tnx - Phil - WA9TKA

They all work and the differences are minor.
Some good buys:
Kenwood TS-120, 130, 140, TS-430 or TS-440
Icom IC-703, IC-735, 725, IC-706, IC-751
Yaesu FT-817, FT-100, FT-747, 757