"Dave Bushong" wrote in message
...
Does anyone believe the bumper sticker that says "United We Stand"?

Look at the title of the newsgroup.... Well, actually it should be
rec.radio.amateur.POLITICS instead, because except in a few rare occasions
where there actually is intelligent debate and/or discussion, it is all
POLITICS!!!!!!!


Here, on this newsgroup, we all sound like a bunch of assholes who hate
each other.

Some do seriously dislike others but some of us "play well together."


And we all sound like a bunch of *hams* who hate each other, if you read
this newsgroup.

Probably just catching the newsgroup at the wrong time. Look at
rec.radio.amateur.misc or even alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf right now. It's the "I
know you are, but what am I" childish arguements....


Why do those people want to kill us? I don't know. But if we fight
amongst ourselves, they win. They win by sitting back and watching us
self-destruct.


Amateur radio will die on its own problems, not from exterior sources, as
the energy to promote and protect the service is definitely not being
utilized that way. This and other newsgroups are a prime example of the
cancer festering on our hobby/service.


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Ryan, KC8PMX
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"Dave Bushong" wrote in message
...
Does anyone believe the bumper sticker that says "United We Stand"?

Look at the title of the newsgroup.... Well, actually it should be
rec.radio.amateur.POLITICS instead, because except in a few rare occasions
where there actually is intelligent debate and/or discussion, it is all
POLITICS!!!!!!!


Here, on this newsgroup, we all sound like a bunch of assholes who hate
each other.

Some do seriously dislike others but some of us "play well together."


And we all sound like a bunch of *hams* who hate each other, if you read
this newsgroup.

Probably just catching the newsgroup at the wrong time. Look at
rec.radio.amateur.misc or even alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf right now. It's the "I
know you are, but what am I" childish arguements....


Why do those people want to kill us? I don't know. But if we fight
amongst ourselves, they win. They win by sitting back and watching us
self-destruct.


Amateur radio will die on its own problems, not from exterior sources, as
the energy to promote and protect the service is definitely not being
utilized that way. This and other newsgroups are a prime example of the
cancer festering on our hobby/service.


--
Ryan, KC8PMX
FF1-FF2-MFR-(pending NREMT-B!)
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In article , Disgusted wrote:

I'd take it to the next ARRL Board of Directors meeting and beat the ****
out of them!



I have a baseball bat, can I join you? HA

I bailed out of the ARRL 14 years ago when it started to become clear that the
Leagues agenda was tending more toward a policy of supporting lower licensing
stardards (CB'er Ham). A pool of trained, capable radio operators means
something to me and I could no longer stand to be a part of an organization
that was moving to disregard that section of Part 97.


It was a life membership too.

In article , Disgusted wrote:

I'd take it to the next ARRL Board of Directors meeting and beat the ****
out of them!



I have a baseball bat, can I join you? HA

I bailed out of the ARRL 14 years ago when it started to become clear that the
Leagues agenda was tending more toward a policy of supporting lower licensing
stardards (CB'er Ham). A pool of trained, capable radio operators means
something to me and I could no longer stand to be a part of an organization
that was moving to disregard that section of Part 97.


It was a life membership too.

Mike Coslo wrote:

Dave Bushong wrote:

[...]



Wow, Dave! That's a stretch. With just a few notable exceptions,
most of us here in rrap enjoy our arguments with each other, and don't
take it too seriously or personally.

Or do you want to tell us just what we should think and say?

- Mike KB3EIA -


Wow, Mike! I guess it sounds serious and personal when someone says
"I'd take it to the next ARRL Board of Directors meeting and beat the
**** out of them!"

I would certainly not presume to tell you what to think; I only ask that
you try *to* think. You might enjoy it.

73,
Dave

Mike Coslo wrote:

Dave Bushong wrote:

[...]



Wow, Dave! That's a stretch. With just a few notable exceptions,
most of us here in rrap enjoy our arguments with each other, and don't
take it too seriously or personally.

Or do you want to tell us just what we should think and say?

- Mike KB3EIA -


Wow, Mike! I guess it sounds serious and personal when someone says
"I'd take it to the next ARRL Board of Directors meeting and beat the
**** out of them!"

I would certainly not presume to tell you what to think; I only ask that
you try *to* think. You might enjoy it.

73,
Dave

I bailed out of the ARRL 14 years ago when it started to become clear that the
Leagues agenda was tending more toward a policy of supporting lower licensing
stardards (CB'er Ham). A pool of trained, capable radio operators means
something to me and I could no longer stand to be a part of an organization
that was moving to disregard that section of Part 97.


It was a life membership too.


I thought the only way to cancel a life membership was to electrocute
yourself
on the power supply of your linear amplifier....... ;-)

I bailed out of the ARRL 14 years ago when it started to become clear that the
Leagues agenda was tending more toward a policy of supporting lower licensing
stardards (CB'er Ham). A pool of trained, capable radio operators means
something to me and I could no longer stand to be a part of an organization
that was moving to disregard that section of Part 97.


It was a life membership too.


I thought the only way to cancel a life membership was to electrocute
yourself
on the power supply of your linear amplifier....... ;-)

"Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote in message
...

"Dave Bushong" wrote in message
...
Does anyone believe the bumper sticker that says "United We Stand"?

Look at the title of the newsgroup.... Well, actually it should be
rec.radio.amateur.POLITICS instead, because except in a few rare occasions
where there actually is intelligent debate and/or discussion, it is all
POLITICS!!!!!!!


Here, on this newsgroup, we all sound like a bunch of assholes who hate
each other.

Some do seriously dislike others but some of us "play well together."


And we all sound like a bunch of *hams* who hate each other, if you read
this newsgroup.

Probably just catching the newsgroup at the wrong time. Look at
rec.radio.amateur.misc or even alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf right now. It's the
"I
know you are, but what am I" childish arguements....


Why do those people want to kill us? I don't know. But if we fight
amongst ourselves, they win. They win by sitting back and watching us
self-destruct.


Amateur radio will die on its own problems, not from exterior sources, as
the energy to promote and protect the service is definitely not being
utilized that way. This and other newsgroups are a prime example of the
cancer festering on our hobby/service.


--
Ryan, KC8PMX
FF1-FF2-MFR-(pending NREMT-B!)
--. --- -.. ... .- -. --. . .-.. ... .- .-. . ..-. .. .-. . ..-.
.. --. .... - . .-. ...



Oh BS Ryan, you think this bunch of mis fits on USENET has anything in
common with the 'real hams' ?? I don't.

I have been here since I got a computer, way back in 1996. Not much has
changed. Even some of the same folks are here.

Nothing that goes on here happens on the air. Its a good way to vent and
have fun.

In fact I'll bet if you could take a pole you would find most of these folks
are not on the air, for whatever reason, and don't care to be. This is
their only connection to a enjoyable outlet they can't or won't use any
longer. Being on the air and having fun.

Dan/W4NTI

"Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote in message
...

"Dave Bushong" wrote in message
...
Does anyone believe the bumper sticker that says "United We Stand"?

Look at the title of the newsgroup.... Well, actually it should be
rec.radio.amateur.POLITICS instead, because except in a few rare occasions
where there actually is intelligent debate and/or discussion, it is all
POLITICS!!!!!!!


Here, on this newsgroup, we all sound like a bunch of assholes who hate
each other.

Some do seriously dislike others but some of us "play well together."


And we all sound like a bunch of *hams* who hate each other, if you read
this newsgroup.

Probably just catching the newsgroup at the wrong time. Look at
rec.radio.amateur.misc or even alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf right now. It's the
"I
know you are, but what am I" childish arguements....


Why do those people want to kill us? I don't know. But if we fight
amongst ourselves, they win. They win by sitting back and watching us
self-destruct.


Amateur radio will die on its own problems, not from exterior sources, as
the energy to promote and protect the service is definitely not being
utilized that way. This and other newsgroups are a prime example of the
cancer festering on our hobby/service.


--
Ryan, KC8PMX
FF1-FF2-MFR-(pending NREMT-B!)
--. --- -.. ... .- -. --. . .-.. ... .- .-. . ..-. .. .-. . ..-.
.. --. .... - . .-. ...



Oh BS Ryan, you think this bunch of mis fits on USENET has anything in
common with the 'real hams' ?? I don't.

I have been here since I got a computer, way back in 1996. Not much has
changed. Even some of the same folks are here.

Nothing that goes on here happens on the air. Its a good way to vent and
have fun.

In fact I'll bet if you could take a pole you would find most of these folks
are not on the air, for whatever reason, and don't care to be. This is
their only connection to a enjoyable outlet they can't or won't use any
longer. Being on the air and having fun.

Dan/W4NTI