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Old December 8th 03, 07:52 AM
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Jim Shaffer, Jr. wrote:
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Well, what do you expect from someone so ****ing stupid that he can live with
himself for enforcing seatbelt laws? Victimless crimes should be abolished.
The "people" enforcing such laws are robots, not human beings.


Since when is that a "victimless" crime? Jerk not wearing a seat-belt gets
involved in an accident (his fault or not; doesn't matter) - and sues the other
driver for the aggravation of his injuries (which could have been avoided or
certainly lessened if a seat belt had been worn). Insurance company raises
rates on ALL customers due to the litigation (even if their insured is not at
fault - because of the "general statistics" of more serious accidents in the
area).

Unless you can show me that ONLY the rates of the non-seat-belt-wearer are
affected, then there are victims other than the perp. of your "victimless"
crime....
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Old December 8th 03, 10:20 PM
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 07:52:44 GMT, "D. Stussy" wrote:

On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Jim Shaffer, Jr. wrote:
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Well, what do you expect from someone so ****ing stupid that he can live with
himself for enforcing seatbelt laws? Victimless crimes should be abolished.
The "people" enforcing such laws are robots, not human beings.


Since when is that a "victimless" crime? Jerk not wearing a seat-belt gets
involved in an accident (his fault or not; doesn't matter) - and sues the other
driver for the aggravation of his injuries (which could have been avoided or
certainly lessened if a seat belt had been worn). Insurance company raises
rates on ALL customers due to the litigation (even if their insured is not at
fault - because of the "general statistics" of more serious accidents in the
area).


Mandatory insurance is also fascism, and the government should be paying for
everyone's health care anyway -- they're not doing anything else useful with the
taxes they take from us.


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Old December 9th 03, 07:29 AM
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 17:20:46 -0500, Jim Shaffer, Jr. wrote:

Mandatory insurance is also fascism, and the government should be paying for
everyone's health care anyway -- they're not doing anything else useful with the
taxes they take from us.


Is it a full moon already or what?

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Old December 9th 03, 05:42 PM
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"D. Stussy" wrote

Since when is that a "victimless" crime? Jerk not wearing a seat-belt

gets
involved in an accident (his fault or not; doesn't matter) - and sues the

other
driver for the aggravation of his injuries (which could have been avoided

or
certainly lessened if a seat belt had been worn).


Another example of the Great Dumbing Down of America.

The world is methodically being dumbed down by government efforts to protect
us from stupid people.

Stupid drivers don't recognize the dangers of speed, so they drive too fast
and kill themselves. The government regulates speed, so now more stupid
people survive.

Stupid automobile passengers get killed because they don't buckle their
seat belts. Government steps in and makes seat belt usage mandatory,
so now more stupid people survive.

Stupid pedestrians don't know enough to not step out into a busy street, so
they get injured and killed trying to cross the street. The government makes
laws giving them the right-of-way, so now more stupid people survive.

Stupid parents don't recognize the value of childhood inoculations. The
government makes them vaccinate their children before entering school, so
now more stupid people survive.

Stupid hams don't know enough to keep their fingers out of 3KV plate
transformers, so they get fried in their own juice. Some would have the
government protect them, and more stupid people would survive.

In the ways of Mother Nature, stupidity was kept in check because stupid
people generally didn't survive to breeding age, thus our species tended to
get smarter over time.

But stupidity begets stupidity, so we are being overwhelmed by a tsunami of
stupidity. The tsunami is triggered by the government protection of stupid
people, which allows them to survive to reproduce.

Ergo, less government regulations makes a smarter populace.

73, de Hans, K0HB




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Old December 9th 03, 11:52 PM
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KØHB wrote:

"D. Stussy" wrote


[seatbelts]

Another example of the Great Dumbing Down of America.

The world is methodically being dumbed down by government efforts to protect
us from stupid people.

Stupid drivers don't recognize the dangers of speed, so they drive too fast
and kill themselves. The government regulates speed, so now more stupid
people survive.
[...]


Most people aren't willing to be this honest. But it is true -- nature
prunes itself, everywhere from the old branches on that oak tree in your
backyard, to the newly-hatched turtle who can't make it to the shoreline
before the seagull eats him up.

It's sad but true. And as usual, humans are trying to change the way
nature works.

My guess is that the dinosaurs tried that once.

ONCE.

Dave
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