"Roger Gt" wrote:
Sorry, this can go no further, you
CHOSE not to believe anything
you like, but I was there at the
incidents described. (snip)


Yes, I choose not to believe accusations against a significant portion of
this country's population, or accusations of incompetency against the
government of this country, without clear and convincing evidence to back it
up. Surely you don't believe your word alone is enough for such accusations,
in a public forum, to go unchallenged.


(snip) So I will not continue, didn't mean
to get sucked into this line of discussion
anyway. The direction this has taken is
not in the topic of the radio group, and I
am leaving the group since it has produced
nothing of value or interest to me. (snip)


Well, that is certainly your decision to make. However, if what you've
said is really true, I strongly urge you to follow up by reporting your
experiences to the various veterans organizations in this country. Several
have ongoing programs to gather and verify the history of veterans over the
years.


There have been auto accidents in
California with over a hundred cars
involved, you heard how many were
hurt and the outcome of these
accidents of course!


No, but there would be a written record of each of those automobile
accidents - newspaper accounts, police records, hospital records, insurance
claims, and so on. The same is true for the incident you described (fifty
demonstrators jumping a marine, with fifteen requiruing medical attention
for broken bones), which means your claim can be fairly easily verified if
true.


(snip) But why would you believe
the news papers, with known bias,
and not an eye witness? (snip)


I'm not going to "believe" anyone, including a supposed eyewitness,
without facts to back up what is said. I can ask a newspaper for the source
of it's information, or research the incident myself in the same manner as
the newspaper did. But, an eyewitness, without verification of what is said,
is the absolute least reliable source of information.


You state the obvious as if you have
a problem believing it. Why if Generals
lack this magically unique knowledge
are they sometimes... (snip)


Again, a military officer does not have a mandate from the people to make
decisions that could impact all Americans. In a democracy, we place that
authority in the hands of the elected government, not in Generals. The
elected President is Commander in Chief of the military and the soldiers
(including Generals) obey his commands. Any effort to subvert that system,
by claiming government should have no say in the actions of our military or
whatever, is, in my opinion, a direct effort to subvert the very system of
government in this country. I took an oath many years ago to defend the
people, Constitution, and government, of this country. I still consider the
ultimate goal of that oath worthwhile.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/