So Phuk'em wrote this troll:

I'm sick at how the bands have become sounding like
CB over the last 17 years, and the League is still intent on making things
worse. So Phuk'em



Have you actually listened to CB lately? Ignoring the heterodynes from the
AM carriers, it sounds completely different than even a crowded during a
contest ham band.

"Lloyd Davies The GREAT TIME LORD" wrote in message
.. .

"So Phuk'em" wrote in message
news:7HmQb.133575$I06.1201849@attbi_s01...

All you old timers & O.M.'s, cancel your memberships! The ARRL board of
directors and section managers are intent on destroying your enjoyment
of
the hobby and also in destroying the effectiveness of the service in
times
of national emergency. I'm sick at how the bands have become sounding
like
CB over the last 17 years, and the League is still intent on making
things
worse. So Phuk'em

I have a completly different opinion!

Join the ARRL today! There is no better time than now, to join the ONLY
voice that Ham Radio has. If you don't like what you, Mr I have no
balls,
than turn your radio off! You are not helping anyone!

Like I said, my membership had paid off!!!!!!






Anything that Llllllloooooyyyyydddd supports has to be world class crap.
If you and your ilk are the 'new wave' I want nothing to do with it.

Dan/W4NTI

"Bonzi" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:26:17 -0600, "Lloyd Davies The GREAT TIME LORD"
wrote:


"So Phuk'em" wrote in message
news:7HmQb.133575$I06.1201849@attbi_s01...

All you old timers & O.M.'s, cancel your memberships! The ARRL board
of
directors and section managers are intent on destroying your enjoyment
of
the hobby and also in destroying the effectiveness of the service in
times
of national emergency. I'm sick at how the bands have become sounding
like
CB over the last 17 years, and the League is still intent on making
things
worse. So Phuk'em

I have a completly different opinion!

Join the ARRL today! There is no better time than now, to join the ONLY
voice that Ham Radio has. If you don't like what you, Mr I have no
balls,
than turn your radio off! You are not helping anyone!

Like I said, my membership had paid off!!!!!!



You couldn't get on HF until it was given to you, lardass.

And when he gets there he is gonna feel like chum at a shark feeding.

Dan/W4NTI

"Keyboard In The Wilderness" wrote in message
news:NuzQb.59621$zs4.22815@fed1read01...
And the ARRL is the only game in town -- we might NOT have the bands and
privileges we do without them.

I am with the poster who sed:

-- I have a completely different opinion!

Join the ARRL today! \

73 From The Wilderness Keyboard



Which is the only reason they are worth hanging with. The gang of fifteen
really stepped on their you know whats on this one. Just watch how the core
membership dumps them.

Dan/W4NTI

"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message
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"So Phuk'em" wrote in message
news:7HmQb.133575$I06.1201849@attbi_s01...

All you old timers & O.M.'s, cancel your memberships! The ARRL board of
directors and section managers are intent on destroying your enjoyment
of
the hobby and also in destroying the effectiveness of the service in
times
of national emergency. I'm sick at how the bands have become sounding
like
CB over the last 17 years, and the League is still intent on making
things
worse. So Phuk'em

I don't normally respond to anonymous trolls, but I feel compelled to
counter
your statements above.

IF you feel that the ARRL "is intent on destroying (your) enjoyment of the
hobby," you must get your enjoyment purely from a self-delusional sense of
superiority.

I've been licensed for well over 25 years. The ham bands have *not*
"become sounding like CB over the last 17 years" - there have always
been a few bad apples - MANY of them OTs who passed the 20 wpm
Morse test and believe they are some sort of gods.

Yes, new hams may make some operating errors and they may need
a little coaching and immersion in the "culture" of ham radio to get to
the point where they sound experienced. We ALL made such mistakes
when we first got on the air - learning by doing is the best way to learn.

So get off your high horse ...

I was unhappy with the ARRL's policy on Morse testing for a long time,
and I'm still not happy with the aspect of their new proposal that would
keep Morse testing for Extra. (Though I have nothing to gain personally,
since I'm already an Extra.)

HOWEVER, the ARRL does SO much good for ham radio that I finally
decided to take out a life membership - BEFORE their proposal came
out (not knowing what position they'd take on the code test).

If all the OT's bail out on the ARRL over this, they will be cutting off
their noses to spite their face.

I encourage everyone to maintain their ARRL membership. And, I
encourage those who aren't members to join. The best way to influence
the ARRL in a progressive direction is from the inside - join, then talk
to
your ARRL Director, make your views known, and let him/her know that
your vote in the next ARRL Director election in your division depends on
their performance.

73,
Carl - wk3c


Well Carl, our Director . Frank Butler don't even answer e-mails on the
subject, and others.

Knowing the gang of 15 is so on high I can only assume they have their noses
in the clouds that they can't hear us lowley constituits.

Most people I have talked to, on the air, and on the internet, think the
proposal is terrible. Most of which are/were ARRL members. And all to the
man saying they are dropping it.

Dream on. The ARRL does not listen. But its members read it loud and clear
.. Its called money. And to hell with what the members really want.

Dan/W4NTI

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
ink.net...

Anything that Llllllloooooyyyyydddd supports has to be world class crap.
If you and your ilk are the 'new wave' I want nothing to do with it.

Dan/W4NTI

"Lloyd" is just stirring the **** as usual.

He did this on 14.313 quite often too.

(Hint: wonder why "Lloyd" is in quotes
above, cause my info says it ain't been Lloyd Davies
making these postings all this time over past months. It is
someone else. Someone who has a colorful
past and still likes to stir the **** on 14.313 even today)

The anonymous "KeyBoard In The Wilderness" wrote:
I write my government reps and the ARRL regularly -- do you ??

I did write ARRL when I was a member, and also spoke to their reps at club
meetings. But they always seemed more interested in justifying the positions
the League was committed to than listening to members' ideas.

There comes a time when you have to think and act for yourself. If the
League is going to pander to the "give me a free upgrade" crowd, then
let
that crowd support them. I dropped my membership a few years ago after
seeing the League's "re-structuring" proposal.

Well you can drop out and scream on the NG's or you can work with and thru
the ARRL to get things done.

I'm not screaming, just stating my opinion. I was a League member for many
years. But when they repeatedly take positions on important issues that I
think are wrong, why should I continue to support them? If they feel that
the long-time hams will always support them no matter what, they will
continue to ignore us and take us for granted. Perhaps if enough of the Old
Timers drop out, they will get the message.

I doubt the ARRL reads this NG.

I suspect a few of the ARRL crowd do read these NGs.

The ARRL has accomplihed much in the interests of Amateur Radio.

Not lately. They've also made some enormous blunders.

Art Harris N2AH

"Arthur Harris" wrote in message
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The anonymous "KeyBoard In The Wilderness" wrote:
I write my government reps and the ARRL regularly -- do you ??

I did write ARRL when I was a member, and also spoke to their reps at club
meetings. But they always seemed more interested in justifying the
positions
the League was committed to than listening to members' ideas.


Did you try running for office yourself or, if you lacked time to run,
encouraging others with your views to run for office?

There comes a time when you have to think and act for yourself. If the
League is going to pander to the "give me a free upgrade" crowd, then
let
that crowd support them. I dropped my membership a few years ago after
seeing the League's "re-structuring" proposal.

Well you can drop out and scream on the NG's or you can work with and
thru
the ARRL to get things done.

I'm not screaming, just stating my opinion. I was a League member for many
years. But when they repeatedly take positions on important issues that I
think are wrong, why should I continue to support them? If they feel that
the long-time hams will always support them no matter what, they will
continue to ignore us and take us for granted. Perhaps if enough of the
Old
Timers drop out, they will get the message.


Did you try running for office yourself or, if you lacked time to run,
encouraging others with your views to run for office?

Old timers dropping out will not do a thing. There are enough new people
coming in that they won't even notice. Instead we will be left with an even
more unbalanced viewpoint.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

If you want to stop this, join the ARRL and start a recall of all of
the current directors and vice directors.


"Keyboard In The Wilderness" wrote in message news:NuzQb.59621$zs4.22815@fed1read01...
And the ARRL is the only game in town -- we might NOT have the bands and
privileges we do without them.

I am with the poster who sed:

-- I have a completely different opinion!

Join the ARRL today! \

73 From The Wilderness Keyboard

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message igy.com...

Old timers dropping out will not do a thing. There are enough new people
coming in that they won't even notice. Instead we will be left with an even
more unbalanced viewpoint.

Depends on your point of view. I'm going to encourage more cranky old
hams to drop out.