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Ashley VK3HAG March 17th 05 11:48 PM

IRLP Contest
 
QST:

International IRLP Contest starts at 1101 AEDT (0001z) today, March 18,
2004. Over 100 nodes worldwide now participating with more joining
daily..details, contest rules & regs can be found at
http://kg4zxk.com/index.php or http://www.qsl.net/vk3irl/ as can a
pre-formatted log sheet and what contacts equal what points.

Join in this new and fascinating way of communicating. The contest concludes
at the closing of the IRLP Conference in Las Vegas, April 17, 2004.

Supported by the Bass IRLP Group, WIA, ARRL & Chesapeake AR Club, USA.

Ashley VK3HAG
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...ENT_NO=1220943

Echolink No: *225827
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Australian Amateur Radio Station
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Visit WIA @ www.wia.org.au
Visit NERG @ www.nerg.asn.au
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Buck March 18th 05 06:04 AM

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:48:00 GMT, "Ashley VK3HAG"
wrote:

QST:

International IRLP Contest starts at 1101 AEDT (0001z) today, March 18,
2004. Over 100 nodes worldwide now participating with more joining
daily..details, contest rules & regs can be found at
http://kg4zxk.com/index.php or http://www.qsl.net/vk3irl/ as can a
pre-formatted log sheet and what contacts equal what points.

Join in this new and fascinating way of communicating. The contest concludes
at the closing of the IRLP Conference in Las Vegas, April 17, 2004.



Time travel?

Buck
--
For what it's worth.

Phaselock Ohms March 18th 05 02:18 PM

Thanks for the notice, but I was busy then.

--
Elementary Wattson
P.O.
I see I observe, I deduce

Time Traveller Wrote:
QST:

International IRLP Contest starts at 1101 AEDT (0001z) today, March 18,
2004. Over 100 nodes worldwide now participating with more joining
daily..details, contest rules & regs can be found at
http://kg4zxk.com/index.php or http://www.qsl.net/vk3irl/ as can a
pre-formatted log sheet and what contacts equal what points.

Join in this new and fascinating way of communicating. The contest
concludes
at the closing of the IRLP Conference in Las Vegas, April 17, 2004.




Richard Newstead March 18th 05 03:12 PM

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:47:16 +0000, Walt Davidson
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:48:00 GMT, "Ashley VK3HAG"
wrote:

QST:

International IRLP Contest starts at 1101 AEDT (0001z) today, March 18,
2004. Over 100 nodes worldwide now participating with more joining
daily..details, contest rules & regs can be found at
http://kg4zxk.com/index.php or http://www.qsl.net/vk3irl/ as can a
pre-formatted log sheet and what contacts equal what points.



Anyone noticed how April 1st gets earlier each year?

--
SOTA Beams New Product - The WaterLog
http://www.sotabeams.co.uk


Jock. March 18th 05 03:39 PM

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:48:00 GMT, "Ashley VK3HAG" wrote:

QST:

International IRLP Contest starts at 1101 AEDT (0001z) today, March 18,
2004. Over 100 nodes worldwide now participating with more joining
daily..details, contest rules & regs can be found at
http://kg4zxk.com/index.php or http://www.qsl.net/vk3irl/ as can a
pre-formatted log sheet and what contacts equal what points.

Join in this new and fascinating way of communicating. The contest concludes
at the closing of the IRLP Conference in Las Vegas, April 17, 2004.

Supported by the Bass IRLP Group, WIA, ARRL & Chesapeake AR Club, USA.

Ashley VK3HAG


Bwahahahahahahahhaaaaaa !

73 de Jock.
--
"Maybe this world is another planet's Hell."
- Aldous Huxley (1894-1963)

ZZZPK March 18th 05 07:42 PM

Walt Davidson wrote:

: So why cross-post this drivel to a UK newsgroup?

could the same question be asked about talking about
licences that cb'ers consider a bargain ?


11 March 18th 05 10:14 PM

http://groups.google.com.au/groups?q...lr=&ie=UT F-8

http://groups.google.com.au/groups?h...an&btnG=Search

http://groups.google.com.au/groups?q...&start=40&sa=N



Ashley VK3HAG March 20th 05 11:33 PM


"Jock." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:48:00 GMT, "Ashley VK3HAG"

wrote:

QST:

International IRLP Contest starts at 1101 AEDT (0001z) today, March 18,
2005. Over 100 nodes worldwide now participating with more joining
daily..details, contest rules & regs can be found at
http://kg4zxk.com/index.php or http://www.qsl.net/vk3irl/ as can a
pre-formatted log sheet and what contacts equal what points.

Join in this new and fascinating way of communicating. The contest

concludes
at the closing of the IRLP Conference in Las Vegas, April 17, 2005.

Supported by the Bass IRLP Group, WIA, ARRL & Chesapeake AR Club, USA.

Ashley VK3HAG


It is for any country that has an IRLP node, not just the USA and Australia.

It is called the "1st Aussie-American IRLP Contest" because of the
Australian Club & US Club sponsoring it. Some web sites have been updated to
read "1st International IRLP Contest"

There's plenty of UK nodes in the contest, the list is on the website



DieSea March 20th 05 11:40 PM


"Ashley VK3HAG" wrote in message
...

"Jock." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:48:00 GMT, "Ashley VK3HAG"

wrote:

QST:

International IRLP Contest starts at 1101 AEDT (0001z) today, March 18,
2005. Over 100 nodes worldwide now participating with more joining
daily..details, contest rules & regs can be found at
http://kg4zxk.com/index.php or http://www.qsl.net/vk3irl/ as can a
pre-formatted log sheet and what contacts equal what points.

Join in this new and fascinating way of communicating. The contest

concludes
at the closing of the IRLP Conference in Las Vegas, April 17, 2005.

Supported by the Bass IRLP Group, WIA, ARRL & Chesapeake AR Club, USA.

Ashley VK3HAG


It is for any country that has an IRLP node, not just the USA and Australia.

It is called the "1st Aussie-American IRLP Contest" because of the
Australian Club & US Club sponsoring it. Some web sites have been updated to
read "1st International IRLP Contest"

There's plenty of UK nodes in the contest, the list is on the website



Not my LOCAL Node

Local OP says there's enough contest on HF where SOME SKILL is needed and says
he's on holiday until the end of April.

To have contest on TWO DAYS a week is TOO much , for SEVEN Days its insufferable.

Cheers

DieSea



Mike Coslo March 21st 05 12:18 AM

DieSea wrote:

Not my LOCAL Node

Local OP says there's enough contest on HF where SOME SKILL is needed and says
he's on holiday until the end of April.

To have contest on TWO DAYS a week is TOO much , for SEVEN Days its insufferable.


I don't understand why cell phones aren't included.

- Mike -


DieSea March 21st 05 12:28 AM


"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
DieSea wrote:

Not my LOCAL Node

Local OP says there's enough contest on HF where SOME SKILL is needed and says
he's on holiday until the end of April.

To have contest on TWO DAYS a week is TOO much , for SEVEN Days its

insufferable.

I don't understand why cell phones aren't included.

- Mike -


They should be , after all they can be used to control an EchoLink or IRLP Node .

I Should also add that this contest is on for a FULL MONTH , that's a full 28 days
or more .

If I remember MattD had some suitable comment a day or so back.

DieSea




Dan/W4NTI March 21st 05 01:19 AM


"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
DieSea wrote:

Not my LOCAL Node

Local OP says there's enough contest on HF where SOME SKILL is needed and
says
he's on holiday until the end of April.

To have contest on TWO DAYS a week is TOO much , for SEVEN Days its
insufferable.


I don't understand why cell phones aren't included.

- Mike -


Or Baby Monitors ?

Dan/W4NTI



Dan/W4NTI March 21st 05 01:20 AM


"DieSea" wrote in message
...

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
DieSea wrote:

Not my LOCAL Node

Local OP says there's enough contest on HF where SOME SKILL is needed
and says
he's on holiday until the end of April.

To have contest on TWO DAYS a week is TOO much , for SEVEN Days its

insufferable.

I don't understand why cell phones aren't included.

- Mike -


They should be , after all they can be used to control an EchoLink or IRLP
Node .

I Should also add that this contest is on for a FULL MONTH , that's a full
28 days
or more .

If I remember MattD had some suitable comment a day or so back.

DieSea



Great....I'll join in if someone can help me get my CW Key to operate on it.

Dan/W4NTI



Simon VK3XEM March 21st 05 07:31 AM

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"DieSea" wrote in message
...

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...

DieSea wrote:


Not my LOCAL Node

Local OP says there's enough contest on HF where SOME SKILL is needed
and says
he's on holiday until the end of April.

To have contest on TWO DAYS a week is TOO much , for SEVEN Days its


insufferable.

I don't understand why cell phones aren't included.

- Mike -


They should be , after all they can be used to control an EchoLink or IRLP
Node .

I Should also add that this contest is on for a FULL MONTH , that's a full
28 days
or more .

If I remember MattD had some suitable comment a day or so back.

DieSea




Great....I'll join in if someone can help me get my CW Key to operate on it.

Dan/W4NTI


There would be no reason why you can't use CW over IRLP. Stop bagging
IRLP, if you don't like it then don't use it!

WAKE UP! There are so many different things you can do on Amateur
Radio, there is room for everyone.

I just checked, there are a total of 1591 IRLP nodes, 1034 active, 879
idle and 105 in calls. This indicates the following to me:

1. IRLP is a popular way of communications on Amateur Radio.

2. This contest is going to have very little impact on any one local
node. Big deal someone is going to dial it up, put out a call either
they will make a contact or they won't and then they will close the link!

Get over it! Go back to your CW if you want, who bothers you or bags you
for using it, I know I certainly don't.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/

Simon VK3XEM March 21st 05 08:22 AM

Walt Davidson wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:31:04 +1100, Simon VK3XEM
wrote:


1. IRLP is a popular way of communications on Amateur Radio.



IRLP has as much to do with Amateur Radio as smoke signals or
semaphore.

The only difference is, communication by smoke signals or semaphore
would be a whole lot more challenging and satisfying than IRLP.

73 de G3NYY


WAKE UP! You *MUST* use your radio, the person at the other end *MUST*
use their radio. Last time I checked that was Amateur Radio.

Like I said before there are *MANY* parts to our hobby, I don't knock
what you do in Amateur Radio, so leave people alone that like IRLP.

Without new innovations in Amateur Radio we will not get new people into
the hobby. If we don't get new people into the hobby then Amateur Radio
will die a natural death and then we will have to find another hobby!


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/

DieSea March 21st 05 08:25 AM




Great....I'll join in if someone can help me get my CW Key to operate on it.

Dan/W4NTI


There would be no reason why you can't use CW over IRLP. Stop bagging
IRLP, if you don't like it then don't use it!

WAKE UP! There are so many different things you can do on Amateur
Radio, there is room for everyone.

I just checked, there are a total of 1591 IRLP nodes, 1034 active, 879
idle and 105 in calls. This indicates the following to me:

1. IRLP is a popular way of communications on Amateur Radio.

2. This contest is going to have very little impact on any one local
node. Big deal someone is going to dial it up, put out a call either
they will make a contact or they won't and then they will close the link!

Get over it! Go back to your CW if you want, who bothers you or bags you
for using it, I know I certainly don't.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/



Simon

I'm not bagging IRLP or Voip


A contest running for 24 hours perhaps or at a push 1 weekend but 24 / 7 for 28
days no way.

Ofcom / the RSGB have put in the conditions of issuing a Notice of Variation ,
that the holder of the Nov MUST be on site at all times the node is running , if
he's not then the can rescind his Nov if caught.

I would be surprised if any UK amateur providing a VoiP Gateway would be at home
for 24 / 7 for 28 days .

It there fore puts the UK amateur at a dis-advantage as soon as the licensee walks
of the property , the node should be turned off.

DieSea



Simon VK3XEM March 21st 05 08:40 AM

DieSea wrote:
Great....I'll join in if someone can help me get my CW Key to operate on it.

Dan/W4NTI


There would be no reason why you can't use CW over IRLP. Stop bagging
IRLP, if you don't like it then don't use it!

WAKE UP! There are so many different things you can do on Amateur
Radio, there is room for everyone.

I just checked, there are a total of 1591 IRLP nodes, 1034 active, 879
idle and 105 in calls. This indicates the following to me:

1. IRLP is a popular way of communications on Amateur Radio.

2. This contest is going to have very little impact on any one local
node. Big deal someone is going to dial it up, put out a call either
they will make a contact or they won't and then they will close the link!

Get over it! Go back to your CW if you want, who bothers you or bags you
for using it, I know I certainly don't.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/




Simon

I'm not bagging IRLP or Voip


A contest running for 24 hours perhaps or at a push 1 weekend but 24 / 7 for 28
days no way.

Ofcom / the RSGB have put in the conditions of issuing a Notice of Variation ,
that the holder of the Nov MUST be on site at all times the node is running , if
he's not then the can rescind his Nov if caught.

I would be surprised if any UK amateur providing a VoiP Gateway would be at home
for 24 / 7 for 28 days .

It there fore puts the UK amateur at a dis-advantage as soon as the licensee walks
of the property , the node should be turned off.

DieSea


I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to go against the regs. But what has
that got to do with the IRLP contest? My point was with so many active
nodes out there the load would be spread out and traffic I would expect
be very minimal on any given node.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/

DieSea March 21st 05 09:28 AM





It there fore puts the UK amateur at a dis-advantage as soon as the licensee

walks
of the property , the node should be turned off.

DieSea


I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to go against the regs. But what has
that got to do with the IRLP contest? My point was with so many active
nodes out there the load would be spread out and traffic I would expect
be very minimal on any given node.



It certainly doesn't make the "PLAYING FIELDS LEVEL"

Our local Node op has been away this weekend helping at the Blackpool Rally so his
nodes been down since Friday , its just gone up.

In some respect we're lucky as he's an elderly bloke with mobility problems , he
doesn't get out much , so when he's up its on , he's still p***ed off with this 24
/ 7 x 28 day contest .


The Next comment you make is that its radio to radio , that's not 100 % correct ,
I know of at least 3 VK's , 2 VE's and at least 5 G / M stations that don't have a
radio connected to their node . Its quite easy to confirm that comment about G / M
stations if you know where to look.

DieSea.



Simon VK3XEM March 21st 05 10:54 AM

Walt Davidson wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:22:53 +1100, Simon VK3XEM
wrote:


Without new innovations in Amateur Radio we will not get new people into
the hobby. If we don't get new people into the hobby then Amateur Radio
will die a natural death and then we will have to find another hobby!



So, like others of your ilk, you are intent upon converting amateur
radio into multi-band CB to satisfy your own selfish aims ... using
the completely false pretext of "saving the hobby from dying".

Yes, I thought so.

73 de G3NYY


I am not going to waste my time with you *IDIOT*, I have **** listed you!


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/

Simon VK3XEM March 21st 05 10:57 AM

DieSea wrote:
It there fore puts the UK amateur at a dis-advantage as soon as the licensee


walks

of the property , the node should be turned off.

DieSea


I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to go against the regs. But what has
that got to do with the IRLP contest? My point was with so many active
nodes out there the load would be spread out and traffic I would expect
be very minimal on any given node.




It certainly doesn't make the "PLAYING FIELDS LEVEL"

Our local Node op has been away this weekend helping at the Blackpool Rally so his
nodes been down since Friday , its just gone up.

In some respect we're lucky as he's an elderly bloke with mobility problems , he
doesn't get out much , so when he's up its on , he's still p***ed off with this 24
/ 7 x 28 day contest .


The Next comment you make is that its radio to radio , that's not 100 % correct ,
I know of at least 3 VK's , 2 VE's and at least 5 G / M stations that don't have a
radio connected to their node . Its quite easy to confirm that comment about G / M
stations if you know where to look.

DieSea.


Are you sure you are not confusing IRLP with echolink? I personally
don't agree with using your computer to access the the network like
echolink does, but I am not going to stop any licensed person from doing
so if the regs. allow it.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/

Kate March 21st 05 11:17 AM


"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
DieSea wrote:

Not my LOCAL Node

Local OP says there's enough contest on HF where SOME SKILL is needed
and says
he's on holiday until the end of April.

To have contest on TWO DAYS a week is TOO much , for SEVEN Days its
insufferable.


I don't understand why cell phones aren't included.

- Mike -


Or Baby Monitors ?

Dan/W4NTI


Sorry no, the babies objected strenuously to having their yelling webcast
across IRLP. A spokesbaby stated 'Goo goo GAH!!'

Kate vk4xyl :-))



Chris Kirby March 21st 05 11:39 AM

Simon VK3XEM wrote:

DieSea wrote:
The Next comment you make is that its radio to radio , that's not 100 % correct ,
I know of at least 3 VK's , 2 VE's and at least 5 G / M stations that don't have a
radio connected to their node . Its quite easy to confirm that comment about G / M
stations if you know where to look.

DieSea.


Are you sure you are not confusing IRLP with echolink? I personally
don't agree with using your computer to access the the network like
echolink does, but I am not going to stop any licensed person from doing
so if the regs. allow it.




"Diesea" is not confusing anything with anything. He is talking about
IRLP. ie. the system which is supposed to be radio radio only.


--
Chris

nana March 21st 05 12:06 PM

IRLP has as much to do with Amateur Radio as smoke signals or
semaphore.

73 de G3NYY

--
Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com


You have a very narrow view of what actually constitutes Amateur Radio.

Brad.



Concerned Amateur March 21st 05 12:23 PM

In article , Walt Davidson wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:31:04 +1100, Simon VK3XEM
wrote:

IRLP has as much to do with Amateur Radio as smoke signals or
semaphore.

The only difference is, communication by smoke signals or semaphore
would be a whole lot more challenging and satisfying than IRLP.

73 de G3NYY


Sounds like you have as much relevance to Amateur Radio as
a foreskin at a Jewish Christening.

And pray tell what do you know about IRLP ? Have you bothered
to understand the technology or are you the typical Armchair
dickhead Amateur that trolls these groups ?


Concerned Amateur March 21st 05 12:27 PM

In article , Walt Davidson wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:22:53 +1100, Simon VK3XEM
wrote:

Without new innovations in Amateur Radio we will not get new people into
the hobby. If we don't get new people into the hobby then Amateur Radio
will die a natural death and then we will have to find another hobby!


So, like others of your ilk, you are intent upon converting amateur
radio into multi-band CB to satisfy your own selfish aims ... using
the completely false pretext of "saving the hobby from dying".

Yes, I thought so.

73 de G3NYY


Your ilk would like to exclude any newcommer to the bands , you
really should take that offer for the Jerry Springer Show


Concerned Amateur March 21st 05 12:28 PM

In article , Walt Davidson wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:54:27 +1100, Simon VK3XEM
wrote:

I am not going to waste my time with you *IDIOT*, I have **** listed you!


!!**Success**!!

:-)))

73 de G3NYY


Take the hint fool....

DieSea March 21st 05 01:15 PM




It certainly doesn't make the "PLAYING FIELDS LEVEL"

Our local Node op has been away this weekend helping at the Blackpool Rally so

his
nodes been down since Friday , its just gone up.

In some respect we're lucky as he's an elderly bloke with mobility problems ,

he
doesn't get out much , so when he's up its on , he's still p***ed off with

this 24
/ 7 x 28 day contest .


The Next comment you make is that its radio to radio , that's not 100 %

correct ,
I know of at least 3 VK's , 2 VE's and at least 5 G / M stations that don't

have a
radio connected to their node . Its quite easy to confirm that comment about G

/ M
stations if you know where to look.

DieSea.


Are you sure you are not confusing IRLP with echolink? I personally
don't agree with using your computer to access the the network like
echolink does, but I am not going to stop any licensed person from doing
so if the regs. allow it.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/


Simon

If had meant EchoLink , I would have said EchoLink , you as I were talking
about IRLP and my response was in that vein.

I have been around before the inception of IRLP by Dave Cameron even before the
demise of IPhone and the I'll fated ILink.

If you know how to look you will find a number of IRLP nodes on air in the UK that
CAN NOT be attached to a radio.

DieSea.



DieSea March 21st 05 01:30 PM


"Chris Kirby" wrote in message
...
Simon VK3XEM wrote:

DieSea wrote:
The Next comment you make is that its radio to radio , that's not 100 %

correct ,
I know of at least 3 VK's , 2 VE's and at least 5 G / M stations that don't

have a
radio connected to their node . Its quite easy to confirm that comment about

G / M
stations if you know where to look.

DieSea.


Are you sure you are not confusing IRLP with echolink? I personally
don't agree with using your computer to access the the network like
echolink does, but I am not going to stop any licensed person from doing
so if the regs. allow it.




"Diesea" is not confusing anything with anything. He is talking about
IRLP. ie. the system which is supposed to be radio radio only.


--
Chris


Thanks Chris

As for EchoLink and its "USERS" ( Please Note the words Users and EchoLink ) I
Wonder how many "ON AIR PROVIDERS" are heartily fed up with a USER connecting with
out identifying and then disconnecting after 5 minutes and still have not
identified .

I KNOW several UK EchoLink on air providers where USERS are banned with certain
exceptions , one is a VK4 , a very pleasant "OLD GENT" of 85+ that Chris and I
have known for years.

Sorry to Hi-Jack your reply Chris .

DieSea



Jock. March 21st 05 02:29 PM

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:33:23 GMT, "Ashley VK3HAG" wrote:

"Jock." wrote in message
.. .


I very much doubt it. I cannot imagine why I would want to write about
this sort of nonsense.

International IRLP Contest starts at 1101 AEDT (0001z) today, March 18,
2005. Over 100 nodes worldwide now participating with more joining
daily..details, contest rules & regs can be found at
http://kg4zxk.com/index.php or http://www.qsl.net/vk3irl/ as can a
pre-formatted log sheet and what contacts equal what points.

Join in this new and fascinating way of communicating. The contest

concludes at the closing of the IRLP Conference in Las Vegas, April 17, 2005.


------%-----

73 de Jock.
--
"Maybe this world is another planet's Hell."
- Aldous Huxley (1894-1963)

Jock. March 21st 05 02:37 PM

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:31:04 +1100, Simon VK3XEM wrote:

I don't understand why cell phones aren't included.


How many points would I accrue from working my nearest cellphone
node which is about 2 km distant?

WAKE UP! There are so many different things you can do on Amateur
Radio, there is room for everyone.


Absolutely, but this isn't one of them.

-----

The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.


No doubt these organisations will be relieved to hear that.

73 de Jock.
--
"Maybe this world is another planet's Hell."
- Aldous Huxley (1894-1963)

Walter Raleigh March 21st 05 04:45 PM


"Kate" wrote in message
...
Sorry no, the babies objected strenuously to having their yelling webcast
across IRLP. A spokesbaby stated 'Goo goo GAH!!'


With the emphasis on "GAH!" :)

--
73s de Walter R.



Simon VK3XEM March 21st 05 05:22 PM

DieSea wrote:
It certainly doesn't make the "PLAYING FIELDS LEVEL"

Our local Node op has been away this weekend helping at the Blackpool Rally so


his

nodes been down since Friday , its just gone up.

In some respect we're lucky as he's an elderly bloke with mobility problems ,


he

doesn't get out much , so when he's up its on , he's still p***ed off with


this 24

/ 7 x 28 day contest .


The Next comment you make is that its radio to radio , that's not 100 %


correct ,

I know of at least 3 VK's , 2 VE's and at least 5 G / M stations that don't


have a

radio connected to their node . Its quite easy to confirm that comment about G


/ M

stations if you know where to look.

DieSea.


Are you sure you are not confusing IRLP with echolink? I personally
don't agree with using your computer to access the the network like
echolink does, but I am not going to stop any licensed person from doing
so if the regs. allow it.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/



Simon

If had meant EchoLink , I would have said EchoLink , you as I were talking
about IRLP and my response was in that vein.

I have been around before the inception of IRLP by Dave Cameron even before the
demise of IPhone and the I'll fated ILink.

If you know how to look you will find a number of IRLP nodes on air in the UK that
CAN NOT be attached to a radio.

DieSea.


OK, I stand corrected there. In that case I am surprised Dave allows
them on the system as I understood the philosophy behind IRLP was to
*USE* the radio.

I am hopefully setting up a node for my local club later this year and I
have *NO* intention of operating it from the console, if or when I do
use it, it will be via a *RADIO* the way it is meant to be.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/

Simon VK3XEM March 21st 05 05:27 PM

Jock. wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:31:04 +1100, Simon VK3XEM wrote:


I don't understand why cell phones aren't included.



How many points would I accrue from working my nearest cellphone
node which is about 2 km distant?


WAKE UP! There are so many different things you can do on Amateur
Radio, there is room for everyone.



Absolutely, but this isn't one of them.

-----


The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.



No doubt these organisations will be relieved to hear that.

73 de Jock.


Another moron on my **** list! Ignorance.

Just because I don't work CW doesn't mean I want it banned, in fact I
would like to see CW allocations retained as it is a valid an historical
part of our hobby. Just as IRLP is valid and *NEW* part of our hobby.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/

Dan/W4NTI March 21st 05 09:51 PM


"Simon VK3XEM" wrote in message
...


Get over it! Go back to your CW if you want, who bothers you or bags you
for using it, I know I certainly don't.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/


Thanks for bringing this up Mate!.

My major problem is folks refering to interconnecting "hams" over the
internet as "ham radio". Ham radio is R A D I O . Not INTERNET connected
to Nodes then to a radio somewhere. Call it whatever you want, but it is
NOT ham radio.

Dan/W4NTI



Brian Reay March 21st 05 09:56 PM

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
et...


Thanks for bringing this up Mate!.

My major problem is folks refering to interconnecting "hams" over the
internet as "ham radio". Ham radio is R A D I O . Not INTERNET

connected
to Nodes then to a radio somewhere. Call it whatever you want, but it is
NOT ham radio.


No doubt similar utterances were made when spark transmitters were phased
out.

Technology moves on, that is the nature of things. No one is forcing you to
use ILRP or any of the other modes.

--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898



Stan March 21st 05 10:45 PM


"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
et...


Thanks for bringing this up Mate!.

My major problem is folks refering to interconnecting "hams" over the
internet as "ham radio". Ham radio is R A D I O . Not INTERNET

connected
to Nodes then to a radio somewhere. Call it whatever you want, but it
is
NOT ham radio.


No doubt similar utterances were made when spark transmitters were phased
out.

Technology moves on, that is the nature of things. No one is forcing you
to
use ILRP or any of the other modes.

--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898


Missed the point there Brian, Dan is complaining about what the mode is
called, not the fact that it exists..

73 de Stan, G4EGH.



Martin, VK2UMJ March 21st 05 10:52 PM

"Jock." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:31:04 +1100, Simon VK3XEM
wrote:

I don't understand why cell phones aren't included.


How many points would I accrue from working my nearest cellphone
node which is about 2 km distant?

WAKE UP! There are so many different things you can do on Amateur
Radio, there is room for everyone.


Absolutely, but this isn't one of them.


I fail to see the difference between using an FM repeater that is linked to
another repeater on a different band, which is commonly done, and using
IRLP.... Yet using the repeater is perfectly acceptable?

IRLP is, usually, vastly different than EchoLink.. If stations at both ends
are using radio, then does it really matter how the link between is
established? Using linked repeaters is fine, some of which use links
outside amateur bands, yet nobody here is suggesting that we put crap on
those operators!

Yes, DX contacts via HF are nice, and may be what many consider to be true
amateur radio, but not everyone can get on HF bands and if IRLP helps
increase activity on radio bands then how can it be a bad thing?

I do, however, agree that a 24/7 contest for a whole 28 days is starting to
get a bit much! 24/7 for 1 or 2 days should be enough, just like most other
amateur contests.

Cheers


--
Martin, VK2UMJ

To reply by e-mail, replace ".invalid" with ".com.au"


"I cannot help but notice that there is no problem
between us that cannot be solved by your departure."





Mike Coslo March 22nd 05 01:40 AM



Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...

DieSea wrote:


Not my LOCAL Node

Local OP says there's enough contest on HF where SOME SKILL is needed and
says
he's on holiday until the end of April.

To have contest on TWO DAYS a week is TOO much , for SEVEN Days its
insufferable.


I don't understand why cell phones aren't included.

- Mike -



Or Baby Monitors ?


That would be really kewl, Dan!

- Mike KB3EIA -


Mike Coslo March 22nd 05 01:42 AM

Simon VK3XEM wrote:

Dan/W4NTI wrote:

"DieSea" wrote in message
...

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...

DieSea wrote:


Not my LOCAL Node

Local OP says there's enough contest on HF where SOME SKILL is
needed and says
he's on holiday until the end of April.

To have contest on TWO DAYS a week is TOO much , for SEVEN Days its


insufferable.

I don't understand why cell phones aren't included.

- Mike -


They should be , after all they can be used to control an EchoLink or
IRLP Node .

I Should also add that this contest is on for a FULL MONTH , that's a
full 28 days
or more .

If I remember MattD had some suitable comment a day or so back.

DieSea




Great....I'll join in if someone can help me get my CW Key to operate
on it.

Dan/W4NTI



There would be no reason why you can't use CW over IRLP. Stop bagging
IRLP, if you don't like it then don't use it!

WAKE UP! There are so many different things you can do on Amateur
Radio, there is room for everyone.

I just checked, there are a total of 1591 IRLP nodes, 1034 active, 879
idle and 105 in calls. This indicates the following to me:

1. IRLP is a popular way of communications on Amateur Radio.

2. This contest is going to have very little impact on any one local
node. Big deal someone is going to dial it up, put out a call either
they will make a contact or they won't and then they will close the link!

Get over it! Go back to your CW if you want, who bothers you or bags you
for using it, I know I certainly don't.



But we really NEED to allow this with cell phones, dagnabit! And not
for just Hams, but for everyone.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Mike Coslo March 22nd 05 01:59 AM

Simon VK3XEM wrote:

Walt Davidson wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:31:04 +1100, Simon VK3XEM
wrote:


1. IRLP is a popular way of communications on Amateur Radio.




IRLP has as much to do with Amateur Radio as smoke signals or
semaphore.

The only difference is, communication by smoke signals or semaphore
would be a whole lot more challenging and satisfying than IRLP.

73 de G3NYY



WAKE UP! You *MUST* use your radio, the person at the other end *MUST*
use their radio. Last time I checked that was Amateur Radio.


Here is what the difference is.


There is very little difference between IRLP and people using the
internet for making telephone calls.

If a person made a gateway for IRLP using FRS radios, it would be the
same thing. For CB radio, same thing.

There are voice chat rooms for people on the internet already. They are
probably more reliable than IRLP. THey cut out the weak link - the radio.

The whole setup eliminates every interest and challenge of Amateur
radio, except for the talking. There is as much technical acumen needed
for me to talk around the world using IRLP as there is for me to pick up
the telephone.

Like I said before there are *MANY* parts to our hobby, I don't knock
what you do in Amateur Radio, so leave people alone that like IRLP.


Um, no thanks. Seriously, if you want to do IRLP, then have at it. But
if you do silly things like have contests, then I think I'll voice my
opinion if ya don't mind.

Without new innovations in Amateur Radio we will not get new people into
the hobby. If we don't get new people into the hobby then Amateur Radio
will die a natural death and then we will have to find another hobby!


And here is the real kick. Do you actually *think* that IRLP is some
kind of "innovation"? It is the internet equivalent of a phone patch.
Like I say, if that is your think, then fine. But to actually have a
contest for such things is silly.

Of course, last time I checked, there was no law against being silly! 8^)



- Mike KB3EIA -





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