"dxAce" wrote in message
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Anybody who can't pass the minimal 5 WPM doesn't deserve a license.

That's needlessly insulting.

Sal M. Onella wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
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Anybody who can't pass the minimal 5 WPM doesn't deserve a license.

That's needlessly insulting.
well the is DX ace for you never be just rude whenyou can be insulting

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:19:04 -0700, "Sal M. Onella"
wrote:

Anybody who can't pass the minimal 5 WPM doesn't deserve a license.

That's needlessly insulting.

No, it's a statement of historic fact, as determined by the licensing
authorities. But it's incorrct -- anyone who can't copy 5 wpm deserves a
license, but it's Citizen's Band.

A further valid statement would be that anyone with an IQ approaching 100 can
learn to copy 5 wpm. That's less than one character every two seconds, which
gives tons of time to recognize and write the single character before the next
one begins. Dyslexia cannot apply, unless it is dyslexia that affects the
remembered dot/dash pattern of a single character.

-- Larry

pltrgyst wrote:
No, it's a statement of historic fact, as determined by the licensing
authorities. But it's incorrct -- anyone who can't copy 5 wpm deserves a
license, but it's Citizen's Band.

Are you saying that hundreds of thousands of no-code
techs didn't deserve an amateur radio license?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

"pltrgyst" wrote in message
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Dyslexia cannot apply, unless it is dyslexia that affects the
remembered dot/dash pattern of a single character.

Well, Larry, it took you to the last sentence, but you did actually lurch
into the problem.
Within seconds after learning what dah-dit-dit-dah means (or
dit-dah-dah-dit, for that matter), I fail to
accurately recognize them when they are sent again. Hundreds of tries --
all failures, all mine.

From your lofty perch, as a successful Morse Code user, you look down on me.
You could stand to learn a
little humility. It would serve you and the amateur community better than
dah-dit-dah any day.

"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
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"pltrgyst" wrote in message
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Dyslexia cannot apply, unless it is dyslexia that affects the
remembered dot/dash pattern of a single character.

Well, Larry, it took you to the last sentence, but you did actually lurch
into the problem.
Within seconds after learning what dah-dit-dit-dah means (or
dit-dah-dah-dit, for that matter), I fail to
accurately recognize them when they are sent again. Hundreds of tries --
all failures, all mine.

From your lofty perch, as a successful Morse Code user, you look down on
me.
You could stand to learn a
little humility. It would serve you and the amateur community better than
dah-dit-dah any day.



should we get rid of the written test because people can't learn decibels
and basic algebra?

perhaps the CW test could have a question pool similar to the written. you
could memorize all the answers. i am actually dead serious. or standardize
the test so that the output is always like a QSO in super morse. there are
ways to make the test easier.

hmm, or we could have an option that you can view the CW in a spectrogram
and decode it visually.

Gravity

Hi there.

Just a quick thought. I will not jump into the code vs. no-code fray. That
said, I'd like to pass on an experience I had with a college professor
friend of mine many years ago, now passed (Doc Bronfield WA2SMW). I learned
CW at the age of 9 using flashing light. Now age 57. Got my novice at age 14
and general at age 15. The extra came easy as did 30 wpm plus CW. Not so
with my friend Doc. He tried and tried, and then we realized that he had
aural dyslexia. So I had an idea. With the help of local engineering types.
They built a keyer that could sent different frequencies slightly for the
dits and dahs. That was what he needed to get his code speed up and pass the
general using the keyer during a FCC test. Here's what I believe should
happen with CW. When I passed my extra there were no extra class operating
privileges issued, but the FCC issued a nice Extra class certificate for the
accomplishment (which I still have). I suggest we leave the 5 wpm code
requirement in place as it now is, but go back to issuing the 20 wpm
certificate by VE's. That would, perhaps, satisfy, the pro-code folk? It
would reward the accomplishment without necessarily making it an Extra class
requirement.

Jozef Hand-Boniakowski

WB2MIC

"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
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"pltrgyst" wrote in message
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Dyslexia cannot apply, unless it is dyslexia that affects the
remembered dot/dash pattern of a single character.

Well, Larry, it took you to the last sentence, but you did actually lurch
into the problem.
Within seconds after learning what dah-dit-dit-dah means (or
dit-dah-dah-dit, for that matter), I fail to
accurately recognize them when they are sent again. Hundreds of tries --
all failures, all mine.

From your lofty perch, as a successful Morse Code user, you look down on
me.
You could stand to learn a
little humility. It would serve you and the amateur community better than
dah-dit-dah any day.