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On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:52:28 +0100 (CET), Grumpy The Mule
wrote: Hmmm! Bolts through the laminations should have insulators (usually fiber board washers) under the heads. Just one end will do, there's no need for them under the nuts. But shoulder washers are best so the bolts don't short any laminations together deeper into the core. If uninsulated the bolt can form a poorly coupled shorted turn and that in itself can cause noise, heating of the core and the hardware as well as spray flux around where you wouldn't have expected any. How bad it is depends on the locations of the holes in the core. A bead of weld across the ends of the laminations won't add to the eddy currents significantly. Steel isn't a great conductor. The weld's cross section is small and it's very poorly coupled to the primary. Why would a weld across the laminations let line spikes though? It's not just the laminations that make noise. The windings can vibrate if they're not locked in place with transformer varnish or epoxy. No amount of tightening the laminations will help if the windings are free to vibrate. This is probably more likely in larger higher power transformers (multiple kW) than in a filament or screen supply transformer, but it can happen. Also, depending on how much magnetic leakage your core has you can couple to the steel walls of the cabinetry the transformer is housed in if you don't maintain adequate spacing from the walls, in which case the steel wall and the transformer can vibrate and make noise even though no parts on the transformer are loose. |
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![]() That's a good point. The filthy leakge inductance will be spraying its flux all about. But there are things we can do a to contain it. A belly band around the winding (but not though the core) helps. End bells (covers) bolted down over the windows work too. There may also be fringing flux spewing out of the unavoidable gaps if it's a butt stack lamination core. Interleaving the laminations will help. I've done all of that on a design with the transformer mounted directly beneath the neck of the CRT in a video terminal. A requirment of the project manager because he feared SMPS noise and demanded a linear power supply. Of course everything had to be jammed into the smallest possible enclosure and a mu metal shield was deemed too expensive :P Jim Higgins wrote in : It's not just the laminations that make noise. The windings can vibrate if they're not locked in place with transformer varnish or epoxy. No amount of tightening the laminations will help if the windings are free to vibrate. This is probably more likely in larger higher power transformers (multiple kW) than in a filament or screen supply transformer, but it can happen. Also, depending on how much magnetic leakage your core has you can couple to the steel walls of the cabinetry the transformer is housed in if you don't maintain adequate spacing from the walls, in which case the steel wall and the transformer can vibrate and make noise even though no parts on the transformer are loose. |
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