WInegard makes an antenna-in-a-box, the SS-1000 which lists ~4 db gain over
the UHF TV range:

http://tinyurl.com/nqpzm2

I must say at the outset that I am hesitant to buy an antenna based on its
form-factor, but I'm forced by the local code to not display bare-element
type antennae on the mast.

I do like the panel style for the reason that I can arrange 3 around a common
mast, aimed at remote cities, and join the outputs for increased coverage.

Has anyone experience with the SS-1000? Or can recommend a similar style
antenna?

Thanks.
--
Al, the usual

On May 30, 5:28*pm, Usual Suspect wrote:
WInegard makes an antenna-in-a-box, the SS-1000 which lists ~4 db
gain over
the UHF TV range:

http://tinyurl.com/nqpzm2

I must say at the outset that I am hesitant to buy an antenna based
on its
form-factor, but I'm forced by the local code to not display bare-
element
type antennae on the mast.

I do like the panel style for the reason that I can arrange 3
around a common
mast, aimed at remote cities, and join the outputs for increased
coverage.

Has anyone experience with the SS-1000? Or can recommend a similar
style
antenna?

Thanks.
--
Al, the usual

I've had one on the roof since Dec 2004 in 90274 35 miles from Mt
Wilson split 4 ways with no preamps. It's a fine little UHF antenna
and while they say it can do upper VHF, I have serious doubts. I'll
find out for certain in 2 weeks.

G²

I've had one on the roof since Dec 2004 in 90274 35 miles from Mt
Wilson split 4 ways with no preamps. It's a fine little UHF antenna
and while they say it can do upper VHF, I have serious doubts. I'll
find out for certain in 2 weeks.
G²

Thanks, G, for answering the question *asked*. I appreciate it. :-)

The issue re. rights may be interesting to some, but was not asked. (Man, the
signal-to-noise ration on USENET is *so* low...)

If you think of it, please post a follow-up in 2 weeks.

Thanks.
--
Al, the usual

On May 31, 7:31*am, Usual Suspect wrote:
I've had one on the roof since Dec 2004 in 90274 35 miles from Mt
Wilson split 4 ways with no preamps. It's a fine little UHF
antenna
and while they say it can do upper VHF, I have serious doubts.
I'll
find out for certain in 2 weeks.
G²

Thanks, G, for answering the question *asked*. I appreciate it. :-)

The issue re. rights may be interesting to some, but was not asked.
(Man, the
signal-to-noise ration on USENET is *so* low...)

If you think of it, please post a follow-up in 2 weeks.

Thanks.
--
Al, the usual

Well, it's the 'big day' and while we have an excellent antenna at
work, I didn't think the little 'SquareShooter' would be adequate for
VHF-hi (channels 7-13) DTV. I brought home the spectrum analyzer to
check out the signal before I tried a re-scan. So far 2 of the 4 VHF-
hi have completed the change over. KABC-7 and KCAL-9 are in their new
homes. The spectrum analyzer showed better than 20dB carrier to noise
which should be OK. I then connected to the computer tuner and it
works very well. I must say I am totally surprised about that as the
analog stations 7-13 were SO weak as to not even SEE a locked umage
from analog. As it is, it appears to be as good as the UHF DTV. If Fox
11 and KCOP-13 are as good as 7 and 9 I won't need to change a thing.

G²

wrote in message
...

So far 2 of the 4 VHF-
hi have completed the change over. KABC-7 and KCAL-9 are in their new
homes. The spectrum analyzer showed better than 20dB carrier to noise
which should be OK. I then connected to the computer tuner and it
works very well. I must say I am totally surprised about that as the
analog stations 7-13 were SO weak as to not even SEE a locked umage
from analog. As it is, it appears to be as good as the UHF DTV. If Fox
11 and KCOP-13 are as good as 7 and 9 I won't need to change a thing.

=======================================

I got KABC but, so far, no KCAL. I'm in San Diego, so my situation will be
variable, depending on the ducting. I think I've lost KCBS, since they
moved to KCAL's old channel, 43, which has a local LPTV station sitting on
it. I still have some more antenna tricks to try. KCAL on 43 was always
very "iffy."

I've also lost KCET; There's a Mexican station (full power) on 28. KOCE
generally good.

On Jun 12, 11:56*pm, "Sal M. Onella"
wrote:
wrote in message

news:24d3eea0-2907-4cb1-
...

So far 2 of the 4 VHF-
hi have completed the change over. KABC-7 and KCAL-9 are in their
new
homes. The spectrum analyzer showed better than 20dB carrier to
noise
which should be OK. I then connected to the computer tuner and it
works very well. I must say I am totally surprised about that as
the
analog stations 7-13 were SO weak as to not even SEE a locked umage
from analog. As it is, it appears to be as good as the UHF DTV. If
Fox
11 and KCOP-13 are as good as 7 and 9 I won't need to change a
thing.

=======================================

I got KABC but, so far, no KCAL. *I'm in San Diego, *so my
situation will be
variable, depending on the ducting. *I think I've lost KCBS, since
they
moved to KCAL's old channel, 43, which has a local LPTV station
sitting on
it. *I still have some more antenna tricks to try. *KCAL on 43 was
always
very "iffy."

I've also lost KCET; There's a Mexican station (full power) on 28.
*KOCE
generally good.

My optimism was premature. KABC is better than I expected and KCAL was
marginal. KTTV-11 Fox is way down in the mud and KCOP-13 is worse than
11, neither of which is usable at all. Keep in mind this is that
little SquareShooter (without the preamp) which is good for UHF isn't
going to make it for VHF hi. Oh well, some more cable along with a UHF/
VHF splitter (combiner) and that big Winegard in the garage will
hopefully cure it.

At 12:30am 6-13-09 KWHY-22 analog was still on the air but all that's
left are a few low power analogs - as they told us.

G²

Your question was framed around an assertion that is not true.

As such, your question is moot. You, however, want an answer to a moot
question? And when your false assertion is explained to you as being
false, complete with details, you consider that "noise"?

"How many baseballs can fit inside the soul of a poet?"

I asked a question. I didn't ask Is my assertion correct? Assume it is
(regardless FCC mandates).

You (and others) decided to answer an unasked question.

But let's not drag this on. I'd like to hear from anyone who has used this
antenna or other like it.

Thanks.
--
Al, the usual

"Usual Suspect" wrote in message
obal.net...

snip

I do like the panel style for the reason that I can arrange 3 around a
common
mast, aimed at remote cities, and join the outputs for increased coverage.

You may encounter some undesired affects from joining antennas. If it
works, fine, but if it doesn't, consider switching among the three at the TV
set(s).

The problem is that the prime signal will be "contaminated" by signal pickup
from the other antenna(s). The degree of contamination may or not affect
reception.

Good luck.

Sal M. Onella wrote:
"Usual Suspect" wrote in message
obal.net...

snip

I do like the panel style for the reason that I can arrange 3 around a
common
mast, aimed at remote cities, and join the outputs for increased coverage.

You may encounter some undesired affects from joining antennas. If it
works, fine, but if it doesn't, consider switching among the three at the TV
set(s).

The problem is that the prime signal will be "contaminated" by signal pickup
from the other antenna(s). The degree of contamination may or not affect
reception.

Good luck.


It will suffer phase distortion. In the good old days we called that
"ghosting", now it will be signal drop outs!

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo ;-P

On May 30, 8:28*pm, Usual Suspect wrote:
WInegard makes an antenna-in-a-box, the SS-1000 which lists ~4 db gain over
the UHF TV range:

http://tinyurl.com/nqpzm2

I must say at the outset that I am hesitant to buy an antenna based on its
form-factor, but I'm forced by the local code to not display bare-element
type antennae on the mast.

I do like the panel style for the reason that I can arrange 3 around a common
mast, aimed at remote cities, and join the outputs for increased coverage..

Has anyone experience with the SS-1000? Or can recommend a similar style
antenna?

Thanks.
--
Al, the usual

Hey OM
This si just a rehash of another post awhile back in this here forum.
But DTV will never go away so:

I seen one on youtube, there are a tonne of them, but this, to the
best of my recollection, one used:

1pc 1x2 2ft long board
5 steel wire coat hangers
dry wall screws
and a 75 ohm to 300 ohm balun

to make a 4 bay bowtie antenna

Ideally that's 6 db over, just a single bowtie.

And an 8 bay bowtie would be 9db.

I the real world it would be slightly less

Capture area of stacked antennas is greater, so less UHF fading. Like
when the wind blows trees branches around and when cars and trucks go
by.

But nothing like watching a pixelated picture. Unless you got a good
memory in that set box.

73 OM
de n8zu