95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:

The character 95 you seem to be fond of is not part of the character
set you use for your news postings.

** I did not send 95. I use a UNIX-based operating system. If you
were using a UNIX based OS you would see what I actually write Rob. cheers

I am using Linux. But I guess that does not count as a UNIX based OS.

** I don't know Rob. I am using Apple's 10.4 OS.

It doesn't matter anyway.
The OS has nothing to do with this.
Your news program is broken, or does not expect the use you make of it.

** this Newsreader app is designed for Apple's OS10.4.

The problems is not in the interface between your program and the
operating system, but in the interface between the program and usenet.

The program does not operate according to the conventions of usenet.

When it is not using the US-ASCII character set (00-7F), it should tell
the reader what character set it uses. This program doesn't, or you
have not configured it to do so.

As your news program does not tell what character set you use, you should
limit your characters to the 00-7F range.

Check what is in your fullname config setting.

** I am not using an OS with such a setting in the system prefs.

Probably it is in your news program.

** I don't see fullname anything in Newswatcher 2.2 3b2 Peferences.

The setting is either in the program or in the operating system.
The software does not invent the setting "95 R. L. Measures." by itself,
not even on an Apple. This information has been entered by you sometime.

** About a third of the denizens in the Newsgroups I frequent have no
trouble seeing the bullet character (option 8) and the bitten apple
character (shift-option k).

Probably your friends all use the same software as you do.
It is not surprising that the same error it has when posting an article
is also present when reading it back.

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
What do you see when you hit Shift-option k?

** a bitten apple

You probably see that only on a Mac.
Windows users most likely see a bullet.
Users of other systems see an unrecongnized character, shown on my
system as the hex value in angle brackets.

In article ,
(• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

I don't see fullname anything in Newswatcher 2.2 3b2 Peferences.

Richard-

There is a newer Newswatcher. I think the latest is version 3.5.3b3.

Rather than using a non-standard bitten apple as part of your name, why
not include an X-Face image in the headers? Under Special -
Personalities - Headers & Misc. - Signature & Headers - Extra News
Headers, paste the following into the box:

X-Face: nrf3{WQ6c&r+7@e)"]0G60`-6ND^)I2mI%)QGYa=9"=7jhd-g2|b3!Al0+
Ccb%xGQshhi|g@QU2$

That image is the bitten apple. It will show up in the heading of your
messages for those people who have a news reader with X-Face capability.

You can paste that into a text file and name it with the suffix,
..x-face. (filename.x-face) If you drop that file onto
GraphicConverter, it should open to show a large crude bitten apple.
When viewed small, it looks much better. GraphicConverter is capable of
creating additional x-face images.

Fred
K4DII

In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob

wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:

The character 95 you seem to be fond of is not part of the character
set you use for your news postings.

** I did not send 95. I use a UNIX-based operating system. If you
were using a UNIX based OS you would see what I actually write Rob.
cheers

I am using Linux. But I guess that does not count as a UNIX based OS.

** I don't know Rob. I am using Apple's 10.4 OS.

It doesn't matter anyway.
The OS has nothing to do with this.
Your news program is broken, or does not expect the use you make of it.

** this Newsreader app is designed for Apple's OS10.4.

The problems is not in the interface between your program and the
operating system, but in the interface between the program and usenet.

The program does not operate according to the conventions of usenet.

When it is not using the US-ASCII character set (00-7F), it should tell
the reader what character set it uses. This program doesn't, or you
have not configured it to do so.

As your news program does not tell what character set you use, you should
limit your characters to the 00-7F range.

Check what is in your fullname config setting.

** I am not using an OS with such a setting in the system prefs.

Probably it is in your news program.

** I don't see fullname anything in Newswatcher 2.2 3b2 Peferences.

The setting is either in the program or in the operating system.
The software does not invent the setting "95 R. L. Measures." by itself,
not even on an Apple. This information has been entered by you sometime.

** I did not enter 95, I entered shift-option-k.

** About a third of the denizens in the Newsgroups I frequent have no
trouble seeing the bullet character (option 8) and the bitten apple
character (shift-option k).

Probably your friends all use the same software as you do.

** they do not.

It is not surprising that the same error it has when posting an article
is also present when reading it back.

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
What do you see when you hit Shift-option k?

** a bitten apple

You probably see that only on a Mac.
Windows users most likely see a bullet.
Users of other systems see an unrecongnized character, shown on my
system as the hex value in angle brackets.

thanks Rob

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

In article , Fred
McKenzie wrote:

In article ,
(• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

I don't see fullname anything in Newswatcher 2.2 3b2 Peferences.

Richard-

There is a newer Newswatcher. I think the latest is version 3.5.3b3.

** that's MT Newswatcher, a more complex app that does killfiles. I have
had grief from the MT version in the past, and I don't killfile anyone so
I went back to the plain-vanilla version,

Rather than using a non-standard bitten apple as part of your name, why
not include an X-Face image in the headers? Under Special -
Personalities - Headers & Misc. - Signature & Headers - Extra News
Headers, paste the following into the box:

** there is no such thing in Newswatcher 2.2 Preferences.


X-Face: nrf3{WQ6c&r+7@e)"]0G60`-6ND^)I2mI%)QGYa=9"=7jhd-g2|b3!Al0+
Ccb%xGQshhi|g@QU2$

That image is the bitten apple. It will show up in the heading of your
messages for those people who have a news reader with X-Face capability.

You can paste that into a text file and name it with the suffix,
.x-face. (filename.x-face) If you drop that file onto
GraphicConverter,

** Is that a Mac app?

it should open to show a large crude bitten apple.
When viewed small, it looks much better. GraphicConverter is capable of
creating additional x-face images.

Fred
K4DII

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 05:17:20 -0700, (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

In article , Rob
wrote:

The setting is either in the program or in the operating system.
The software does not invent the setting "95 R. L. Measures." by itself,
not even on an Apple. This information has been entered by you sometime.

** I did not enter 95, I entered shift-option-k.

After following this tread, I have no problems understanding why you
are banned from various moderated newsgroups :-).

In article ,
(• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

Rather than using a non-standard bitten apple as part of your name, why
not include an X-Face image in the headers? Under Special -
Personalities - Headers & Misc. - Signature & Headers - Extra News
Headers, paste the following into the box:

** there is no such thing in Newswatcher 2.2 Preferences.

It isn't in the preferences. "Special" is an item in the menu bar.

I also used NewsWatcher for a long time but eventually updated to MTNW.
So far there are no problems I've noticed. I can't speak for the latest
version used with an older OS.

You can paste that into a text file and name it with the suffix,
.x-face. (filename.x-face) If you drop that file onto
GraphicConverter,

** Is that a Mac app?

Yes. It is a graphics app that has been around for a long time,
probably as long as NewsWatcher.

Fred

In article , Fred
McKenzie wrote:

It isn't in the preferences. "Special" is an item in the menu bar.

It seems that NewsWatcher-X (2.2.3b2) has a place in preferences called
"Extra Header Lines". I tried pasting my x-face there, and will soon see
if it will successfully post the image to this message!

It appears that 2.2.3b2 does not display x-face images like the newer
version does.

By the way, the MTNW has an asterisk by each thread where you have posted
a message. Even when collapsed, you can tell which threads to check for
replies. With your way, you can only recognize your posting when it is
the first one.

Fred

Paul Keinanen wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 05:17:20 -0700, (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

In article , Rob
wrote:

The setting is either in the program or in the operating system.
The software does not invent the setting "95 R. L. Measures." by itself,
not even on an Apple. This information has been entered by you sometime.

** I did not enter 95, I entered shift-option-k.

After following this tread, I have no problems understanding why you
are banned from various moderated newsgroups :-).

Yes indeed!