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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010, Stuart Longland VK4MSL wrote:
Hate to hijack a thread … On Dec 6, 2:55*am, highlandham wrote: With your tuneable range ,for 10.100-10.150 MHz you can use any crystal in the 18.495 to 18.985 MHz range ,probably even a low cost microprocessor type. Out of curiosity, what's the difference between the "microprocessor" type crystals and other crystals? Is it just frequency stability or is there something more fundamental? Crystals traditionally were not commodity items. They were ground on demand. Rare exceptions would be frequencies so common that it wouldn't be a waste to make them ahead of time, so 100KHz crystals were pretty standard. WWII kind of spoiled people, because there was so much surplus afterwards that for a long time, one could get a crystal "off the shelf" because it existed as military surplus. You'd either live with a crystal "close enough" or open it up and grind it so it fit. All those surplus crystals allowed for people to make crystal filters when single sideband became popular in the fifties, a lot of VHF work was able to use surplus crystals in the 8 or 6MHz range (when the transmitters would be a string of multipliers to get up to the desired frequency), there was even enough that worked on the HF ham bands. When 2M FM came along, that was a shock. Suddenly "close enough" wasn't, since it was channelized, so there was an illusion that one suddenly needed to have crystals ground to frequency, when that had been the case all along. It didn't take many years before that got old, which is when frequency synthesizers really took off in amateur radio. An odd exception seemed to be CB crystals, where you often could buy off the shelf, or at least on a very short wait. But they too were ground just like all the rest, only the cb set's manufacturer saw there'd be demand so they built up stock. It was the rise of digital circuits that caused the growth of commodity crystals. ICs would be designed to use a specific frequency, that often looked pretty odd until you divided it down, and these ICs were used enough that the crystals became available off the shelf. Some companies tried to make use of existing commodity crystals, such as the very common color subcarrier frequency 3.58MHz, but that didn't always work. Initially it was a fairly small set of commodity crystals, but more than the 100KHz and a few other frequencies seen before. "Microprocesser crystal" is probably a misnomer, since they could often use whatever frequency was available, but other things needed very specific things. The variety of crystals multiplied as new ICs and gadgets came along, until there was quite a few. Commodity crystals likely are lower spec'd, certainly you have to make the circuit work with the crystal rather than have a circuit and spend the money to have a crystal ground to fit that circuit. But the real reason they are cheap is they are mass-produced, because the demand is there. So long as you can make do with what other people want or need, then you can get cheap crystals. It's not unlike the decades after WWII when there were all those surplus crystals, you lived with what there was (but there were so many, it often wasn't a hardship). Michael VE2BVW |
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