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Project Shun: An intro for rec.radio.* users
On 8/1/2014 9:42 PM, atec77 wrote:
On 1/08/2014 10:37 PM, Brian Morrison wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:49:54 -0400 I would argue that logic is exactly what the law needs, as in "Why is that illegal?" with a reasoned answer that demonstrates harm if it exists and a clear benefit from preventing whatever it is. But the two are entirely different situations; the only commonality is that both are privileges. Yes, but don't you think that some sort of moral equivalence should apply to those privileges? Not unreasonable to suggest a person holding a ham ticket be of clean criminal record and good morals , a short certificate to the effect should be required for registration after a suitable police check surely ? Too bad the same can't be done with politicians. But then we wouldn't have any - which may be a good thing! -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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Project Shun: An intro for rec.radio.* users
On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 11:42:02 +1000, atec77 wrote:
Not unreasonable to suggest a person holding a ham ticket be of clean criminal record and good morals Some of the most unpleasant people I have come across have never been convicted of a crime and as for morals- they are a moveable feast, in time and space! -- M0WYM Sales @ radiowymsey http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Sales-At-Radio-Wymsey/ |
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On 02/08/14 08:19, Brian Reay wrote:
atec77 "atec77 wrote: Not unreasonable to suggest a person holding a ham ticket be of clean criminal record and good morals , a short certificate to the effect should be required for registration after a suitable police check surely ? Exactly. The checks should cover offences related to things like the harassment related crimes (inc. malicious communications), sex offences, violent crimes, and radio related crimes. I can't help thinking we've reached the point were perhaps offenders in two of the above groups should automatically be totally banned from using the internet. The bans should also be firmly enforced. We could always dig up Timothy Evans and ask him what he thinks of the idea. -- Spike |
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Project Shun: An intro for rec.radio.* users
"Brian Reay" wrote in message
... Exactly. The checks should cover offences related to things like the harassment related crimes (inc. malicious communications), sex offences, violent crimes, and radio related crimes. I can't help thinking we've reached the point were perhaps offenders in two of the above groups should automatically be totally banned from using the internet. The bans should also be firmly enforced. How would they be enforced? You could block the offender's home address, but he only has to go to an Internet Cafe or log in to a wi-fi hotspot with an ipad or similar. -- ;-) .. 73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint. .. http://turner-smith.co.uk |
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On 02/08/14 10:30, FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI wrote:
"Brian Reay" wrote in message ... Exactly. The checks should cover offences related to things like the harassment related crimes (inc. malicious communications), sex offences, violent crimes, and radio related crimes. I can't help thinking we've reached the point were perhaps offenders in two of the above groups should automatically be totally banned from using the internet. The bans should also be firmly enforced. How would they be enforced? You could block the offender's home address, but he only has to go to an Internet Cafe or log in to a wi-fi hotspot with an ipad or similar. It would have to be enforced by catching then doing it. Then lock them up for a long time, in a real jail. None of this nonsense of TVs and time off for good behaviour etc. Such people seem incapable of behaving themselves so they will some betray they presence and can be reported. If they have, say, a USB stick which has software which permits them to use a machine and leave no trace, that should be enough. |
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On 02/08/2014 11:06, Brian Reay wrote:
It would have to be enforced by catching then doing it. Then lock them up for a long time, in a real jail. None of this nonsense of TVs and time off for good behaviour etc. Such people seem incapable of behaving themselves so they will some betray they presence and can be reported. If they have, say, a USB stick which has software which permits them to use a machine and leave no trace, that should be enough. Er, precisely what crime is committed by leaving to trace on a machine? Presumably you would like all the posters on here who use a pseudonym to have fifty lashes each? Les. |
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 13:17:58 +0100, Lordgnome wrote:
On 02/08/2014 11:06, Brian Reay wrote: It would have to be enforced by catching then doing it. Then lock them up for a long time, in a real jail. None of this nonsense of TVs and time off for good behaviour etc. Such people seem incapable of behaving themselves so they will some betray they presence and can be reported. If they have, say, a USB stick which has software which permits them to use a machine and leave no trace, that should be enough. Er, precisely what crime is committed by leaving to trace on a machine? Presumably you would like all the posters on here who use a pseudonym to have fifty lashes each? Les. I believe he's suggesting a digital version of "going equipped", but he hasn't thought (it through very well). |
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On 8/2/2014 2:47 AM, atec77 wrote:
On 2/08/2014 12:11 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 8/1/2014 9:42 PM, atec77 wrote: On 1/08/2014 10:37 PM, Brian Morrison wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:49:54 -0400 I would argue that logic is exactly what the law needs, as in "Why is that illegal?" with a reasoned answer that demonstrates harm if it exists and a clear benefit from preventing whatever it is. But the two are entirely different situations; the only commonality is that both are privileges. Yes, but don't you think that some sort of moral equivalence should apply to those privileges? Not unreasonable to suggest a person holding a ham ticket be of clean criminal record and good morals , a short certificate to the effect should be required for registration after a suitable police check surely ? Too bad the same can't be done with politicians. But then we wouldn't have any - which may be a good thing! might be an idea to stay with relevance to radio occasionaly sticky foreign to you but do try Might be a good idea to stop trolling. But I know that is foreign to you. You can't even try. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On 02/08/14 13:29, Bernie wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 13:17:58 +0100, Lordgnome wrote: On 02/08/2014 11:06, Brian Reay wrote: It would have to be enforced by catching then doing it. Then lock them up for a long time, in a real jail. None of this nonsense of TVs and time off for good behaviour etc. Such people seem incapable of behaving themselves so they will some betray they presence and can be reported. If they have, say, a USB stick which has software which permits them to use a machine and leave no trace, that should be enough. Er, precisely what crime is committed by leaving to trace on a machine? Presumably you would like all the posters on here who use a pseudonym to have fifty lashes each? Les. I believe he's suggesting a digital version of "going equipped", Exactly. but he hasn't thought (it through very well). Not being acquainted with such activities as 'going equipped', being precise is easy for all of us. |
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Project Shun: An intro for rec.radio.* users
"Brian Reay" wrote in message
... Exactly. The checks should cover offences related to things like the harassment related crimes (inc. malicious communications), sex offences, violent crimes, and radio related crimes. Should those who are so reckless as to the safety of their fellow man such that they receive a criminal conviction for speeding be banned from installing any radios in a car or a mobile home? And if a 4-square antennae arrangement is then spotted on their mobile home, should they be banged up without mercy in jail for years? Just curious as to whether your spite applies equally to you as you intend it to apply to others? |
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