"Fred McKenzie" wrote in message
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Speaking of tape measures, I have an old mil-surplus Hy-Gain Tape
Dipole. Two versions are described at http://www.n2ckh.com/HA4000.htm.

That's very interesting and also proving that there is nothing new under the
Sun!

I'll need to google for the Octopus, though

"gareth" wrote in message
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"Fred McKenzie" wrote in message
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Speaking of tape measures, I have an old mil-surplus Hy-Gain Tape
Dipole. Two versions are described at http://www.n2ckh.com/HA4000.htm.

That's very interesting and also proving that there is nothing new under
the Sun!

I'll need to google for the Octopus, though

OK, found this ..
http://kc5our.com/wordpress/wp-conte...entation-1.pdf

"gareth" wrote in message
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"gareth" wrote in message
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"Fred McKenzie" wrote in message
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Speaking of tape measures, I have an old mil-surplus Hy-Gain Tape
Dipole. Two versions are described at
http://www.n2ckh.com/HA4000.htm.

That's very interesting and also proving that there is nothing new under
the Sun!

I'll need to google for the Octopus, though

OK, found this ..
http://kc5our.com/wordpress/wp-conte...entation-1.pdf


Bad practice to repsond to my own posts, but is a Hamstick merely a plastic
tube with a loading coil wound around it, and then a whip antenna at one
end?

(I have on my desk plans to make a coil winding machine)

In article ,
"gareth" wrote:

"gareth" wrote in message
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"gareth" wrote in message
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"Fred McKenzie" wrote in message
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Speaking of tape measures, I have an old mil-surplus Hy-Gain Tape
Dipole. Two versions are described at
http://www.n2ckh.com/HA4000.htm.

That's very interesting and also proving that there is nothing new under
the Sun!

I'll need to google for the Octopus, though

OK, found this ..
http://kc5our.com/wordpress/wp-conte...-Antenna-Prese
ntation-1.pdf


Bad practice to repsond to my own posts, but is a Hamstick merely a plastic
tube with a loading coil wound around it, and then a whip antenna at one
end?

(I have on my desk plans to make a coil winding machine)

Gareth-

I replied to your message titled, "Spacecraft antennae". I do not know
how my reply became a new message titled, "QST".

That article on the Octopus Antenna is interesting. It is essentially
the same antenna described in QST, but construction is slightly
different. I suppose mine is a little different as well. For example,
I added a place for a vertical whip.

I currently use a 4 foot vertical whip to add a fifth band (10 Meters).
The ground whip for 20 Meters is a Hustler mast with the kit for extra
resonators. I use a 20 Meter resonator plus a 10 Meter resonator to
balance the vertical whip. The 4 foot vertical whip fits in the attic
with an inch to spare.

Even though it does not have whips for 12 or 17 Meters, it can be
matched with an LDG tuner. When those bands are open, I make contacts!

I believe your description of the Hamstick is correct.

Fred
K4DII

Fred McKenzie wrote in news:fmmck-
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I replied to your message titled, "Spacecraft antennae". I do not know
how my reply became a new message titled, "QST".


Xnews shows it in the same thread, depending on its thread ID or whatever
it's called. Maybe your client sorts only by subject title, though it might
have the option to do otherwise.

Fred McKenzie wrote in news:fmmck-
:

I replied to your message titled, "Spacecraft antennae". I do not know
how my reply became a new message titled, "QST".


I just found another explanation. Ò^O
In Xnews, when I replied just now, I forgot to refresh before looking in
another group this thread is crossposted to. My reply showed up there, and
not here, because that group was the first one I saw the post in! It won't
now appear here (for me) unless I fiddle about with Xnews to make it so.

On 8/28/2014 8:02 AM, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Fred McKenzie wrote in news:fmmck-
:

I replied to your message titled, "Spacecraft antennae". I do not know
how my reply became a new message titled, "QST".


I just found another explanation. Ò^O
In Xnews, when I replied just now, I forgot to refresh before looking in
another group this thread is crossposted to. My reply showed up there, and
not here, because that group was the first one I saw the post in! It won't
now appear here (for me) unless I fiddle about with Xnews to make it so.


Your message shows up just fine in both newsgroups.

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Jerry Stuckle wrote in news:ltn6p0$fbt$2@dont-
email.me:

Your message shows up just fine in both newsgroups.


Gets posted to both. Some clients, like Xnews, will have a setting to show
it only once, the first time it is read regardless of which group that is.
This, and the subject change, are both likely candidates to explain the
behaviour seen. There may be more.

"gareth" wrote in message ...

"Fred McKenzie" wrote in message
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Speaking of tape measures, I have an old mil-surplus Hy-Gain Tape
Dipole. Two versions are described at http://www.n2ckh.com/HA4000.htm.

That's very interesting and also proving that there is nothing new under
the Sun!

I'll need to google for the Octopus, though

I agree with Fred that while wanting a beam at a decent height, there may be
some acceptable lower performance alternatives.
At least you could use some of those while still pursuing the optimum.

I've had good luck with an attic loop antenna strung around the rafters and
fed with a tuner.
I haven't had a loop large enough to use on 40 and below, but it worked fine
on 20 and above.

Currently, I use a 14 foot whip mounted on top of a rather large metal patio
cover. It is fed with about 20 feed of RG-8 and a tuner.
Performance is not bad on 20 and above.
I can manually insert a coil to use it on 40 or 80. It is "ok" on 40 and
not so good on 80.

I have a friend who uses a Butternut vertical. It is on a tilt base, and he
keeps it lowered when not in use. His homeowner association has agreed to
that arrangement because it is considered "temporary" instead of permanent.

Good luck.