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"Boris Mohar" wrote in message ... On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 08:05:50 -0700, "RP Henry" richard.p.henry@saic dot com wrote: "Michael Black" wrote in message ... Winfield Hill ) writes: Paul Burridge wrote... The question seems daft, but bear with me, gentlemen. Has anyone ever had an electric shock that they feel lucky to have survived? I've had a few fatal shocks. Thanks, - Win You sound in especially good shape for someone who's suffered multiple fatal shocks. That explains the hair. He is a cat. -- Regards, Boris Mohar Got Knock? - see: Viatrack Printed Circuit Designs http://www3.sympatico.ca/borism/ Aurora, Ontario Win just haunts this newsgroup. Regards Ian ;-) So you're saying he's sort of an Obi-Wan Kenobi type? "Use the grounding strap Luke". Michael |
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mentioned... Paul Burridge wrote: On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 12:33:24 GMT, "Harris" wrote: Several people have and of course they are all dead. Well I don't believe the answer's that simple. I'll explain in due Yes it is. 'Fatal' doesn't have any slack in its definition. You could modify it by adding 'near' as a prefix. I agree. He said one thing, but meant another. Snot what you think! Answer this question: Q: Twenty years ago, a plane is flying at 20,000 feet over Germany. If you will recall, Germany at the time was politically divided into West Germany and East Germany. Anyway, during the flight, TWO of the engines fail. The pilot, realizing that the last remaining engine is also failing, decides on a crash landing. Unfortunately, the engine fails before he has time and the plane crashes smack in the middle of "no-man's-land" between East Germany and West Germany. Where would you bury the survivors - East Germany or West Germany or in "no-man's- land?" DOH! For the answer, and other similar Qs, see http://dailyfunnies.org/archives/000637.html -- @@F@r@o@m@@O@r@a@n@g@e@@C@o@u@n@t@y@,@@C@a@l@,@@w@ h@e@r@e@@ ###Got a Question about ELECTRONICS? Check HERE First:### http://users.pandora.be/educypedia/e...s/databank.htm My email address is whitelisted. *All* email sent to it goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 at hotmail.com Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half). http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did! Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html @@t@h@e@@a@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@m@e@e@t@@t@h@e@@E@f@f@l@ u@e@n@t@@ |
"Paul Burridge" wrote in message ... The question seems daft, but bear with me, gentlemen. Has anyone ever had an electric shock that they feel lucky to have survived? Yep, made me a believer in GFCIs, which weren't around when this happened. My folks had just gotten a new hedge clipper, and their idiot son decided to have at a shrub one morning. Plugged it in, walked out barefoot on the still-damp grass. Began sculpting and promptly cut through the extension cord, which jammed in the blades. My muscles locked up and I couldn't drop it. After a few seconds of this I fell over, making even better contact with the ground. I finally managed to grab the plastic side handle with my other hand and pull it free. Whew.... Every part of my body hurt, I went back to bed for the rest of the day. Then there's the incident with the soldering iron and the ten automotive batteries in series, but I didn't get a jolt from that ;-) Regards, Ralph in NH |
"Paul Burridge" wrote in message ... The question seems daft, but bear with me, gentlemen. Has anyone ever had an electric shock that they feel lucky to have survived? Yep, made me a believer in GFCIs, which weren't around when this happened. My folks had just gotten a new hedge clipper, and their idiot son decided to have at a shrub one morning. Plugged it in, walked out barefoot on the still-damp grass. Began sculpting and promptly cut through the extension cord, which jammed in the blades. My muscles locked up and I couldn't drop it. After a few seconds of this I fell over, making even better contact with the ground. I finally managed to grab the plastic side handle with my other hand and pull it free. Whew.... Every part of my body hurt, I went back to bed for the rest of the day. Then there's the incident with the soldering iron and the ten automotive batteries in series, but I didn't get a jolt from that ;-) Regards, Ralph in NH |
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mentioned... "A E" wrote in message ... Paul Burridge wrote: On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 12:33:24 GMT, "Harris" wrote: Several people have and of course they are all dead. Well I don't believe the answer's that simple. I'll explain in due Yes it is. 'Fatal' doesn't have any slack in its definition. You could modify it by adding 'near' as a prefix. course, but would like to give a few others a chance to guess what I'm driving at (this isn't some sort of joke BTW). -- but you can be clinicaly death and restarted can't you? so does fatal imply permenent death or can it be temporary? Pat Fatal is fatal. You're brain dead, which is the definition of death. If you have a near-death experience, then that's when you can live to tell about it. "He's dead, Jim." -- @@F@r@o@m@@O@r@a@n@g@e@@C@o@u@n@t@y@,@@C@a@l@,@@w@ h@e@r@e@@ ###Got a Question about ELECTRONICS? Check HERE First:### http://users.pandora.be/educypedia/e...s/databank.htm My email address is whitelisted. *All* email sent to it goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 at hotmail.com Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half). http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did! Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html @@t@h@e@@a@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@m@e@e@t@@t@h@e@@E@f@f@l@ u@e@n@t@@ |
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mentioned... "A E" wrote in message ... Paul Burridge wrote: On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 12:33:24 GMT, "Harris" wrote: Several people have and of course they are all dead. Well I don't believe the answer's that simple. I'll explain in due Yes it is. 'Fatal' doesn't have any slack in its definition. You could modify it by adding 'near' as a prefix. course, but would like to give a few others a chance to guess what I'm driving at (this isn't some sort of joke BTW). -- but you can be clinicaly death and restarted can't you? so does fatal imply permenent death or can it be temporary? Pat Fatal is fatal. You're brain dead, which is the definition of death. If you have a near-death experience, then that's when you can live to tell about it. "He's dead, Jim." -- @@F@r@o@m@@O@r@a@n@g@e@@C@o@u@n@t@y@,@@C@a@l@,@@w@ h@e@r@e@@ ###Got a Question about ELECTRONICS? Check HERE First:### http://users.pandora.be/educypedia/e...s/databank.htm My email address is whitelisted. *All* email sent to it goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 at hotmail.com Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half). http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did! Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html @@t@h@e@@a@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@m@e@e@t@@t@h@e@@E@f@f@l@ u@e@n@t@@ |
"Watson A.Name - 'Watt Sun'" wrote in message .. . Q: Twenty years ago, a plane is flying at 20,000 feet over Germany. If you will recall, Germany at the time was politically divided into West Germany and East Germany. Anyway, during the flight, TWO of the engines fail. The pilot, realizing that the last remaining engine is also failing, decides on a crash landing. Unfortunately, the engine fails before he has time and the plane crashes smack in the middle of "no-man's-land" between East Germany and West Germany. Where would you bury the survivors - East Germany or West Germany or in "no-man's- land?" Actually, he shouldn't have been flying so close to the border. There was a buffer zone between East & West Germany at the time and pilots were aware of it. I think it was around 10 or 20 miles or so. And I think burying survivors would be a violation of their rights. -- Tom Sevart N2UHC Frontenac, KS http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc |
"Watson A.Name - 'Watt Sun'" wrote in message .. . Q: Twenty years ago, a plane is flying at 20,000 feet over Germany. If you will recall, Germany at the time was politically divided into West Germany and East Germany. Anyway, during the flight, TWO of the engines fail. The pilot, realizing that the last remaining engine is also failing, decides on a crash landing. Unfortunately, the engine fails before he has time and the plane crashes smack in the middle of "no-man's-land" between East Germany and West Germany. Where would you bury the survivors - East Germany or West Germany or in "no-man's- land?" Actually, he shouldn't have been flying so close to the border. There was a buffer zone between East & West Germany at the time and pilots were aware of it. I think it was around 10 or 20 miles or so. And I think burying survivors would be a violation of their rights. -- Tom Sevart N2UHC Frontenac, KS http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc |
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mentioned... In sci.electronics.design Harris wrote: Several people have and of course they are all dead. Well, you can have shocks that would cause death if left untreated. As some people get treated, they get to experience it all, apart from actually getting planted. That's near-death. There _is_ a difference. -- @@F@r@o@m@@O@r@a@n@g@e@@C@o@u@n@t@y@,@@C@a@l@,@@w@ h@e@r@e@@ ###Got a Question about ELECTRONICS? Check HERE First:### http://users.pandora.be/educypedia/e...s/databank.htm My email address is whitelisted. *All* email sent to it goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 at hotmail.com Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half). http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did! Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html @@t@h@e@@a@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@m@e@e@t@@t@h@e@@E@f@f@l@ u@e@n@t@@ |
In article ,
mentioned... In sci.electronics.design Harris wrote: Several people have and of course they are all dead. Well, you can have shocks that would cause death if left untreated. As some people get treated, they get to experience it all, apart from actually getting planted. That's near-death. There _is_ a difference. -- @@F@r@o@m@@O@r@a@n@g@e@@C@o@u@n@t@y@,@@C@a@l@,@@w@ h@e@r@e@@ ###Got a Question about ELECTRONICS? Check HERE First:### http://users.pandora.be/educypedia/e...s/databank.htm My email address is whitelisted. *All* email sent to it goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 at hotmail.com Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half). http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did! Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html @@t@h@e@@a@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@m@e@e@t@@t@h@e@@E@f@f@l@ u@e@n@t@@ |
More likely a lawyer trolling for business.
Malcolm "Dave Holford" wrote in message ... Several people have and of course they are all dead. Well I don't believe the answer's that simple. I'll explain in due Yes it is. 'Fatal' doesn't have any slack in its definition. You could modify it by adding 'near' as a prefix. course, but would like to give a few others a chance to guess what I'm driving at (this isn't some sort of joke BTW). -- but you can be clinicaly death and restarted can't you? so does fatal imply permenent death or can it be temporary? Pat The original poster must be a journalist. Our newspaper this morning has a story about two men who were "Electrocuted" in an industrial accident. They were treated and released from hospital! Dave |
More likely a lawyer trolling for business.
Malcolm "Dave Holford" wrote in message ... Several people have and of course they are all dead. Well I don't believe the answer's that simple. I'll explain in due Yes it is. 'Fatal' doesn't have any slack in its definition. You could modify it by adding 'near' as a prefix. course, but would like to give a few others a chance to guess what I'm driving at (this isn't some sort of joke BTW). -- but you can be clinicaly death and restarted can't you? so does fatal imply permenent death or can it be temporary? Pat The original poster must be a journalist. Our newspaper this morning has a story about two men who were "Electrocuted" in an industrial accident. They were treated and released from hospital! Dave |
"Paul Burridge" wrote in message = ... =20 The question seems daft, but bear with me, gentlemen. Has anyone ever had an electric shock that they feel lucky to have survived? =20 One of the guys on a maintenance crew I was on in a previous job and was doing testing with managed to get a nice 415vac 400Hz across the chest. Doing testing in mec relay panel the relays were in the back of the = panel / box and the doors are where all the circuit breakers are mounted. remeber he made contact with the uncovered terminal of a transformer. I was working with him as well as a few others, activating = sensors(sticking a spanner in front etc) and he was confirming the right voltages were being recieved to activate = relays etc. Just heard a loud shout over the intercom and we all went running. He was lucky he didn't get throw by it as he could have fallen about=20 10 foot on to the tarmac. Just stunned at the time. Had to take him for a ecg afterwards standard precaution. No problems at the time. But his health seemed to deteriate after that. Maybe it triggered an existing condition. Six months later he suffered a heart attack. From my own experiance, rf burns hurt more than standard 50Hz ac or dc shocks even though I would have to rate car iginition systems a close second. Alex |
"Paul Burridge" wrote in message = ... =20 The question seems daft, but bear with me, gentlemen. Has anyone ever had an electric shock that they feel lucky to have survived? =20 One of the guys on a maintenance crew I was on in a previous job and was doing testing with managed to get a nice 415vac 400Hz across the chest. Doing testing in mec relay panel the relays were in the back of the = panel / box and the doors are where all the circuit breakers are mounted. remeber he made contact with the uncovered terminal of a transformer. I was working with him as well as a few others, activating = sensors(sticking a spanner in front etc) and he was confirming the right voltages were being recieved to activate = relays etc. Just heard a loud shout over the intercom and we all went running. He was lucky he didn't get throw by it as he could have fallen about=20 10 foot on to the tarmac. Just stunned at the time. Had to take him for a ecg afterwards standard precaution. No problems at the time. But his health seemed to deteriate after that. Maybe it triggered an existing condition. Six months later he suffered a heart attack. From my own experiance, rf burns hurt more than standard 50Hz ac or dc shocks even though I would have to rate car iginition systems a close second. Alex |
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 07:58:13 -0700, "RP Henry" richard.p.henry@saic
dot com wrote: "Watson A.Name - 'Watt Sun'" wrote in message . .. Q: Twenty years ago, a plane is flying at 20,000 feet over Germany. If you will recall, Germany at the time was politically divided into West Germany and East Germany. Anyway, during the flight, TWO of the engines fail. The pilot, realizing that the last remaining engine is also failing, decides on a crash landing. Unfortunately, the engine fails before he has time and the plane crashes smack in the middle of "no-man's-land" between East Germany and West Germany. Where would you bury the survivors - East Germany or West Germany or in "no-man's- land?" Since it was 20 years ago, some of the survivors might be dead by now, so the joke loses a little of its punch. Even more when you first heard it 20 years *before* the supposed incident. :-) -- "I believe history will be kind to me, since I intend to write it." - Winston Churchill |
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 07:58:13 -0700, "RP Henry" richard.p.henry@saic
dot com wrote: "Watson A.Name - 'Watt Sun'" wrote in message . .. Q: Twenty years ago, a plane is flying at 20,000 feet over Germany. If you will recall, Germany at the time was politically divided into West Germany and East Germany. Anyway, during the flight, TWO of the engines fail. The pilot, realizing that the last remaining engine is also failing, decides on a crash landing. Unfortunately, the engine fails before he has time and the plane crashes smack in the middle of "no-man's-land" between East Germany and West Germany. Where would you bury the survivors - East Germany or West Germany or in "no-man's- land?" Since it was 20 years ago, some of the survivors might be dead by now, so the joke loses a little of its punch. Even more when you first heard it 20 years *before* the supposed incident. :-) -- "I believe history will be kind to me, since I intend to write it." - Winston Churchill |
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 06:55:28 -0700, Watson A.Name - 'Watt Sun'
wrote: In article , mentioned... The question seems daft, Yes, since the victim isn't going to be around to tell anyone. but bear with me, gentlemen. Has anyone ever had an electric shock that they feel lucky to have survived? Bear with you, because you said one thing, but really meant another... I think you've misunderstood. See my reply to Eric Immel. -- "I believe history will be kind to me, since I intend to write it." - Winston Churchill |
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 06:55:28 -0700, Watson A.Name - 'Watt Sun'
wrote: In article , mentioned... The question seems daft, Yes, since the victim isn't going to be around to tell anyone. but bear with me, gentlemen. Has anyone ever had an electric shock that they feel lucky to have survived? Bear with you, because you said one thing, but really meant another... I think you've misunderstood. See my reply to Eric Immel. -- "I believe history will be kind to me, since I intend to write it." - Winston Churchill |
"Paul Burridge" wrote in message = ... On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 03:29:47 GMT, Eric Immel wrote: =20 Paul, are you asking if anyone has been killed, then revived?=20 =20 That's pretty close to what I'm getting at. What I *am* actually get at is that theoretical physicists are coming around to the rather extraordinary view that one cannot from one's own perspective be killed by any sudden and dramatic life event. No matter how bad the shock, you will always 'come around' to find that you've survived. The tricky bit is that you'll probably have found yourself in a different reality to the one you left. In the one you've left, observers will see your cold, dead, smoking body lying sparko on the ground. Your relatives will grieve, your obituary will be written. But *you* won't know anything of that. You'll just believe you've had a lucky escape; you'll go home and tell your friends and family all about it and years later maybe you'll tell others via the Internet. Sounds nuts? Incredible as it may seem, the majority of physicists currently working in this field now believe this to be the case! And we're talking world-class theoreticians here, not just the kooks who post to alt.sci.theories. =20 For further info, try Googling for the following: Many Worlds theory Max Tegel Quantum suicide experiment Quantum Theory of Imortality David Deutsche Schroedinger's Cat Are yes, the multiverse people. I think David Deutsche still has his page up on qubits.org Alex |
"Paul Burridge" wrote in message = ... On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 03:29:47 GMT, Eric Immel wrote: =20 Paul, are you asking if anyone has been killed, then revived?=20 =20 That's pretty close to what I'm getting at. What I *am* actually get at is that theoretical physicists are coming around to the rather extraordinary view that one cannot from one's own perspective be killed by any sudden and dramatic life event. No matter how bad the shock, you will always 'come around' to find that you've survived. The tricky bit is that you'll probably have found yourself in a different reality to the one you left. In the one you've left, observers will see your cold, dead, smoking body lying sparko on the ground. Your relatives will grieve, your obituary will be written. But *you* won't know anything of that. You'll just believe you've had a lucky escape; you'll go home and tell your friends and family all about it and years later maybe you'll tell others via the Internet. Sounds nuts? Incredible as it may seem, the majority of physicists currently working in this field now believe this to be the case! And we're talking world-class theoreticians here, not just the kooks who post to alt.sci.theories. =20 For further info, try Googling for the following: Many Worlds theory Max Tegel Quantum suicide experiment Quantum Theory of Imortality David Deutsche Schroedinger's Cat Are yes, the multiverse people. I think David Deutsche still has his page up on qubits.org Alex |
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 10:05:43 +0100, the renowned Paul Burridge
wrote: That's pretty close to what I'm getting at. What I *am* actually get at is that theoretical physicists are coming around to the rather extraordinary view that one cannot from one's own perspective be killed by any sudden and dramatic life event. No matter how bad the shock, you will always 'come around' to find that you've survived. The tricky bit is that you'll probably have found yourself in a different reality to the one you left. In the one you've left, observers will see your cold, dead, smoking body lying sparko on the ground. Your relatives will grieve, your obituary will be written. But *you* won't know anything of that. You'll just believe you've had a lucky escape; you'll go home and tell your friends and family all about it and years later maybe you'll tell others via the Internet. Does that mean that my smoking/exploding MOSFETs have narrowly survived their "both sides of the half-bridge on" event in some parallel universe? How about my dog who got runned over (sic) when I was 12? Is he happily chasing various critters somewhere? Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 10:05:43 +0100, the renowned Paul Burridge
wrote: That's pretty close to what I'm getting at. What I *am* actually get at is that theoretical physicists are coming around to the rather extraordinary view that one cannot from one's own perspective be killed by any sudden and dramatic life event. No matter how bad the shock, you will always 'come around' to find that you've survived. The tricky bit is that you'll probably have found yourself in a different reality to the one you left. In the one you've left, observers will see your cold, dead, smoking body lying sparko on the ground. Your relatives will grieve, your obituary will be written. But *you* won't know anything of that. You'll just believe you've had a lucky escape; you'll go home and tell your friends and family all about it and years later maybe you'll tell others via the Internet. Does that mean that my smoking/exploding MOSFETs have narrowly survived their "both sides of the half-bridge on" event in some parallel universe? How about my dog who got runned over (sic) when I was 12? Is he happily chasing various critters somewhere? Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:18:38 +1000, "Alex Gibson"
wrote: Just stunned at the time. Had to take him for a ecg afterwards standard precaution. No problems at the time. But his health seemed to deteriate after that. Maybe it triggered an existing condition. Six months later he suffered a heart attack. An immediate EKG may not have shown anything, but a follow-up by a cardiologist might have shown problems. From my own experiance, rf burns hurt more than standard 50Hz ac or dc shocks even though I would have to rate car iginition systems a close second. RF frequency burns are nastier than DC or low frequency, and are much more disruptive to the body's electrical/nervous system. They can also burn internally, with little outward burn shown. A co-worker some years ago was sloppy, and put a few hundred watts of RF through his hand. Nasty burn which took a very long time to heal. Over 15 years, but I bet he still has a scar. My advice is to avoid zapping anything you can't buy at the parts store. Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear) ------------------------------------------------ at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom |
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:18:38 +1000, "Alex Gibson"
wrote: Just stunned at the time. Had to take him for a ecg afterwards standard precaution. No problems at the time. But his health seemed to deteriate after that. Maybe it triggered an existing condition. Six months later he suffered a heart attack. An immediate EKG may not have shown anything, but a follow-up by a cardiologist might have shown problems. From my own experiance, rf burns hurt more than standard 50Hz ac or dc shocks even though I would have to rate car iginition systems a close second. RF frequency burns are nastier than DC or low frequency, and are much more disruptive to the body's electrical/nervous system. They can also burn internally, with little outward burn shown. A co-worker some years ago was sloppy, and put a few hundred watts of RF through his hand. Nasty burn which took a very long time to heal. Over 15 years, but I bet he still has a scar. My advice is to avoid zapping anything you can't buy at the parts store. Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear) ------------------------------------------------ at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom |
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In article , "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
I find that very interesting, since every chocolate bar I have ever had was wrapped in aluminum foil. I always thought it was just shiny paper. There's not much Aluminum there, if any. Chris |
In article , "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
I find that very interesting, since every chocolate bar I have ever had was wrapped in aluminum foil. I always thought it was just shiny paper. There's not much Aluminum there, if any. Chris |
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mentioned... A former member of the Air Force told me about a safety training video narrated by a transmitter tech who did not observe *all* the procedures. He survived to make the video, but as a double amputee. I was told that this training video was part of the curriculum for so many years that the principal character became somewhat of a celebrity. Perhaps someone with more direct knowledge can add or correct the details. Tom, N3IJ Well, that's a helluva way to become a celebrity! But on observation, the amputee must've been a DOD civilian, because he couldn't have remained in the AF without his legs. Or whatever was amputated. Or maybe he did the narration after he had recovered and was discharged. "Paul Burridge" wrote in message ... The question seems daft, but bear with me, gentlemen. Has anyone ever had an electric shock that they feel lucky to have survived? p. -- @@F@r@o@m@@O@r@a@n@g@e@@C@o@u@n@t@y@,@@C@a@l@,@@w@ h@e@r@e@@ ###Got a Question about ELECTRONICS? Check HERE First:### http://users.pandora.be/educypedia/e...s/databank.htm My email address is whitelisted. *All* email sent to it goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 at hotmail.com Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half). http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did! Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html @@t@h@e@@a@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@m@e@e@t@@t@h@e@@E@f@f@l@ u@e@n@t@@ |
In article ,
mentioned... A former member of the Air Force told me about a safety training video narrated by a transmitter tech who did not observe *all* the procedures. He survived to make the video, but as a double amputee. I was told that this training video was part of the curriculum for so many years that the principal character became somewhat of a celebrity. Perhaps someone with more direct knowledge can add or correct the details. Tom, N3IJ Well, that's a helluva way to become a celebrity! But on observation, the amputee must've been a DOD civilian, because he couldn't have remained in the AF without his legs. Or whatever was amputated. Or maybe he did the narration after he had recovered and was discharged. "Paul Burridge" wrote in message ... The question seems daft, but bear with me, gentlemen. Has anyone ever had an electric shock that they feel lucky to have survived? p. -- @@F@r@o@m@@O@r@a@n@g@e@@C@o@u@n@t@y@,@@C@a@l@,@@w@ h@e@r@e@@ ###Got a Question about ELECTRONICS? Check HERE First:### http://users.pandora.be/educypedia/e...s/databank.htm My email address is whitelisted. *All* email sent to it goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 at hotmail.com Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half). http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did! Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html @@t@h@e@@a@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@m@e@e@t@@t@h@e@@E@f@f@l@ u@e@n@t@@ |
No, but I have been cured of AIDS, just got a set
of spark plugs for my Diesel lorry and a couple of skyhooks to hold up my HF dipole! Theo |
No, but I have been cured of AIDS, just got a set
of spark plugs for my Diesel lorry and a couple of skyhooks to hold up my HF dipole! Theo |
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:52:03 GMT, Spehro Pefhany
wrote: Does that mean that my smoking/exploding MOSFETs have narrowly survived their "both sides of the half-bridge on" event in some parallel universe? How about my dog who got runned over (sic) when I was 12? Is he happily chasing various critters somewhere? The world's brightest minds would have it so, strange as it seems. For a gentle introduction into the subject, check out 'The Universe Next Door' by Marcus Chown. -- "I believe history will be kind to me, since I intend to write it." - Winston Churchill |
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:52:03 GMT, Spehro Pefhany
wrote: Does that mean that my smoking/exploding MOSFETs have narrowly survived their "both sides of the half-bridge on" event in some parallel universe? How about my dog who got runned over (sic) when I was 12? Is he happily chasing various critters somewhere? The world's brightest minds would have it so, strange as it seems. For a gentle introduction into the subject, check out 'The Universe Next Door' by Marcus Chown. -- "I believe history will be kind to me, since I intend to write it." - Winston Churchill |
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 17:01:16 -0400, Alex wrote:
GFCI? Ground Fault Circuit Interruptor. It detects a sudden rise in current to ground and shuts the circuit off in a fraction of a second. Fuses protect the circuit, GFCI protects people. The present US Electrical Code requires them in areas where water is nearby, including bathrooms, kitchens, garages, and outdoors. You are encouraged to use them in other places where there is danger of zapping yourself. They are not a guarantee, but they boost the odds in your favor. Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear) ------------------------------------------------ at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom |
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 17:01:16 -0400, Alex wrote:
GFCI? Ground Fault Circuit Interruptor. It detects a sudden rise in current to ground and shuts the circuit off in a fraction of a second. Fuses protect the circuit, GFCI protects people. The present US Electrical Code requires them in areas where water is nearby, including bathrooms, kitchens, garages, and outdoors. You are encouraged to use them in other places where there is danger of zapping yourself. They are not a guarantee, but they boost the odds in your favor. Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear) ------------------------------------------------ at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom |
Watson A.Name - 'Watt Sun' wrote in message ...
In article , richard.p.henry@saic mentioned... "Tom Sevart" wrote in message ... "WB3FUP (Mike Hall)" wrote in message ... 10KV to fire magnetron in counter battery radar. Took six marines to stop me from burying my screw driver in the chest of the asshole that thought it would be cute to push the radiate button. I remember hearing the story of an Air Force tech working on a 30' radar dish. For some dumb reason, someone energized it and promptly microwaved him to death. Some of these stories are hair rasing... and I'm too much of a weenie to stick my tongue on a 9V battery... A Raytheon corporate legend is that one of the engineers discovered the microwave oven principle when a radar melted a chocolate bar in his shirt pocket. When I was in the army at Ft. Monmouth, NJ, we trained on a radar trainer, had a klystron that put out 1W to the horn on the top of the unit. We could put our finger over the horn and feel it get mildly warm from the RF. Big deal. The Real Thing put our 5 megawatts! -- Sure, but the pulse width is only a microsecond, so the average power is only 5 watts at one pulse per second. I forget the rep rate of the one I woked on but at 6uS per mile and 400 miles round trip, the rep rate would be about 400 Hz. So it's 400 times 5, or 2KW. -Bill |
Watson A.Name - 'Watt Sun' wrote in message ...
In article , richard.p.henry@saic mentioned... "Tom Sevart" wrote in message ... "WB3FUP (Mike Hall)" wrote in message ... 10KV to fire magnetron in counter battery radar. Took six marines to stop me from burying my screw driver in the chest of the asshole that thought it would be cute to push the radiate button. I remember hearing the story of an Air Force tech working on a 30' radar dish. For some dumb reason, someone energized it and promptly microwaved him to death. Some of these stories are hair rasing... and I'm too much of a weenie to stick my tongue on a 9V battery... A Raytheon corporate legend is that one of the engineers discovered the microwave oven principle when a radar melted a chocolate bar in his shirt pocket. When I was in the army at Ft. Monmouth, NJ, we trained on a radar trainer, had a klystron that put out 1W to the horn on the top of the unit. We could put our finger over the horn and feel it get mildly warm from the RF. Big deal. The Real Thing put our 5 megawatts! -- Sure, but the pulse width is only a microsecond, so the average power is only 5 watts at one pulse per second. I forget the rep rate of the one I woked on but at 6uS per mile and 400 miles round trip, the rep rate would be about 400 Hz. So it's 400 times 5, or 2KW. -Bill |
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