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Old June 24th 04, 10:17 PM
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Theo wrote:
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The transformer is good for 1500 to 2500 VRMS at 0.5 A or more.



I would check to see if these transformers are continuously rated, I seem to
recall they are rated for intermittent use only.

Theo



They are also built to have high leakage inductance, for current
limiting when you put your steel coffee cup in there. This is done by
having physically separate windings and a laminated-steel wedge in the
window in the core. You have to knock that wedge out.

There was an article in QST or QEX about using microwave parts to build
power supplies for linears. Very interesting. Very scary, considering
that the author also used old refrigerator drawers as the case...

I saved the pieces from my old microwave in case I ever want to build
something that puts out more than 5W.

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Old June 25th 04, 11:52 PM
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Hi Tim,

There was an article in QST or QEX about using microwave parts to
build power supplies for linears. Very interesting. Very scary,
considering that the author also used old refrigerator drawers as the
case...


Just curious: Do people still build linears with tubes and HV supplies
or is it much cheaper now to use transistors? Mine were all tubes but
that was about 20 some years ago when FETs and BJT were just way out
there in terms of cost.

Regards, Joerg

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Old June 26th 04, 12:28 AM
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Just curious: Do people still build linears with tubes and HV supplies
or is it much cheaper now to use transistors? Mine were all tubes but
that was about 20 some years ago when FETs and BJT were just way out
there in terms of cost.


As one example: Ameritron builds solid-state ham-band amplifiers of up
to 600 watts output (their "ALS" series). Starting at the 600-watt
point, and going up to the 1500-watt legal limit, Armitron's amps are
all based on tubes. There are legal-limit HF amps which use only a
single tube (e.g. a 3CX1500A/8877 triode, running at about 2500 volts)

According to a talk I saw recently, commercial television broadcasters
have moved almost exclusively to solid-state RF amplifiers for their
newer stations. No one set of transistors can provide thenecessary
power, so the amps use a large number of smaller modular amplifiers
operating in parallel - I think the basic "brick" we were shown was
capable of a couple of hundred watts. I haven't seen any ham-band
amplifiers using this modules-in-parallel approach, although I'm
sure one could be built.

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Old June 26th 04, 01:24 AM
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Hi Dave,

Thanks for explaining. 600W is pretty good power already. Since the commercial amps are bricks it seems they must have good protection against sudden mismatches as well.

I remember when I had a coil in the antenna open, which was immediately followed by an exploding coax cable portion. The tubes didn't even flinch but in the 70's just the opening coil would have immediately destroyed even a small transistor amp because the SWR network wasn't fast enough to shut it down.


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Old June 26th 04, 02:01 PM
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Dave Platt wrote:
According to a talk I saw recently, commercial television broadcasters
have moved almost exclusively to solid-state RF amplifiers for their
newer stations.


I suppose this is kinda OT but tubes (usually, klystrons or various
modifications thereof) are still generally used for high power at UHF.
IIRC solid-state UHF transmitters are available up to about 30kw or so,
but larger stations require as much as 110kw to achieve the desired
effective radiated power.

Tubes do indeed seem to be a thing of the past at VHF, where powers
beyond 50kw are generally not necessary.
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